NFL's Greatest Game: 1993 Packers v Lions

[hurleyfan]

Right now on ESPN2, they are showing the 1993 wildcard playoff game between the Packers & Lions..

Favre to Sharpe!! Packers Win!!

[mmmdk]

I love that game, I have it on dvd, Favre to Sharpe for the win plus don't forget that int. return for a TD...by George Teague!

[hurleyfan]

Sorry for dupe thread... I just saw Harvery started a thread about this game ..

[Joemailman]

I was at home alone because I had the flu, but when Sharpe scored I was yelling so loud the dog ran down into the basement. Thought I was yelling at him.

[Deputy Nutz]

I just watched Favre role out and he was a little faster back then than he is now.

[hurleyfan]

T-Buck was holding way back then too!!

[]{ilr]3]

Right now on ESPN2, they are showing the 1993 wildcard playoff game between the Packers & Lions..

Favre to Sharpe!! Packers Win!!

Thanks! Watching it right now 8-)

[Packnut]

That laser he threw to Sharpe was identical to the one he threw to Driver against NY. The man has lost NOTHING. Amazing.............

[hurleyfan]

That laser he threw to Sharpe was identical to the one he threw to Driver against NY. The man has lost NOTHING. Amazing.............

Well put!

Lost some "color" in his hair, that's about it :D

[motife]

that was a dagger... I was about as low as I could be after that interception..

that's what we had "Favre bricks" for...

[motife]

Tony Bennett, Bryce Paup, Matt Brock.. those were great pass rushers..

Mark Brunell, Jon Gruden, Andy Reid, Greg Blache, Hank Bulluough, George Teague, Johnny Holland...

[hurleyfan]

How about Wayne Simmons too!!

Whatever happened to Darrel Thompson?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Matt Brock was a horrible pass rusher. He was a run stuffer. We always had ordinary DEs like him. Shawn Patterson types.

[Deputy Nutz]

That defense wasn't very good

[hurleyfan]

That defense wasn't very good

No where near the Defense of 1995 and 'specially 1996!

[motife]

Matt Brock had a knack for getting the QB in my memory. He rarely had a start with the Pack, but he'd get a handful of sacks every year.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Matt Brock was a horrible pass rusher. He was a run stuffer. We always had ordinary DEs like him. Shawn Patterson types.


Shawn Pattterson was a good pass rusher, lean & mean. He was coming on strong when he got crunched.

[MTPackerfan]

thanks for the heads up, I caught the end of the game.

[HarveyWallbangers]

That throw was unfriggin' believable. All the angles showed just how hard it was--even though Sterling was wide open. It was long, it was across the field, he was fading left. Unreal.

[hurleyfan]

That pass is still great to see... even after all these years!

Is that the game Sharpe threatened to hold out, or start of 1993??

[HarveyWallbangers]

Matt Brock was a DE who played 8 years and had a total of 19.5 sacks. Just looked it up on nfl.com. His high for a season was 5.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Shawn Patterson was a DE who played 6 years and had 11 sack. Never had more than 4 in a season. I always hated having white DEs back then.
:D

All they did was stuff the run. Darn, we were really bad back in those days.

[hurleyfan]

WTF ! ! TT gets in ?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Shawn Patterson was a DE who played 6 years and had 11 sack .

You were only 11 years old when he played. Listen to me, son: Patterson was an excellent athlete, he blew his knee out just when he was getting good (2nd year, I think) and was never the same afterwards.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I just realized watching these old games and living through a 3-0 start...I no longer miss the Holmgren era.

[motife]

Matt Brock was a DE who played 8 years and had a total of 19.5 sacks. Just looked it up on nfl.com. His high for a season was 5.

Keep in mind he did that as a backup. He was never a full time player.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Nah, he started many years.

http://www.nfl.com/players/mattbrock/profile?id=BRO037536

I think your memory is fuzzy on Brock. He was a terrible pass rusher. He was in the Shawn Patterson, Don Davey, Robert Brown mold of DE that we had for years. Ezra Johnson was about the only guy in about a 15 year period that could get after the QB on our defense. Tim Harris too, but he was a LB/DE.

[Carolina_Packer]

That pass is still great to see... even after all these years!

Is that the game Sharpe threatened to hold out, or start of 1993??

This is from an article that I found on JS Online:

At one point very early in his career, Favre was the lowest paid starting quarterback in the NFL at $360,000 a year.

From the end of the 1993 season and before the 1994 season began, Favre became a restricted free agent. The negotiations between agent Bus Cook and general manager Ron Wolf took awhile and in that span, fans debated in the newspapers and on the airways whether the team should give Favre the $5 million a year he wanted, and the results seemed to be half and half.

Meanwhile the Los Angeles Rams made an offer and the New Orleans Saints gave Favre a workout. Favre, Cook and then Saints head coach Jim Mora Sr. had dinner, but even back then, at just 24 years old, Favre couldn't see himself as anyone other than a Packer.

"I want to finish my career in Green Bay," he said that summer.

Making it clear to everyone who would listen that he wanted a deal done before training camp began, because he had no intentions of holding out, Favre got the five-year, $19 million blockbuster deal on July 14.

Interestingly a few weeks later, the Packers' top receiver, Sterling Sharpe, did stage a one-day holdout over his 10-year, $15.5 million contract he signed in 1991 and threatened to sit out the season. Assuming a leadership role from the beginning, Favre decided not to censor his opinion over Sharpe's contract issues.

"Sure, Sterling's the guy I've thrown to the most the last two years," said Favre. "But I can't fold my tent, then walk into the huddle and let the others see that I've given up. In my opinion Sterling's under contract, and he should honor that contract. If they give him more money, what's to stop other guys from wanting to renegotiate? The Packers can't do that. Listen, no one's that good."

Sharpe returned and caught a touchdown pass to kick off the 1994 season with a Green Bay victory against Minnesota.
Here is the link to the full article:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=361602

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think your memory is fuzzy on Brock. He was a terrible pass rusher. He was in the Shawn Patterson, Don Davey, Robert Brown mold of DE that we had for years. .

I have to stubbornly insist that Shawn Patterson does not belong in that list.
He was a sleek pass rusher, both quick and fast.

He coulda been a contenda

I just rememeber being so disappointed when he got hurt, he was on his way. I know you dug up some stats, but who you gonna believe, me or your own lying eyes?

[motife]

Nah, he started many years.

http://www.nfl.com/players/mattbrock/profile?id=BRO037536

I think your memory is fuzzy on Brock. He was a terrible pass rusher. He was in the Shawn Patterson, Don Davey, Robert Brown mold of DE that we had for years. Ezra Johnson was about the only guy in about a 15 year period that could get after the QB on our defense. Tim Harris too, but he was a LB/DE.

I've watched every Green Bay football game since 1967, and as my first passion in life.

Regardless of what it says on NFL.com, Brock was not a regular starter, nor an every down player. But when he WAS playing, something always happened. (You could see that in the Detroit playoff game.)

Even NFL.com says he got 4 sacks in 1990 with zero starts. He also had 2 interceptions which is not something a DL usually does. In any one year, there aren't too many double digit sacks by even full time starters.

The guy was a solid role player and an occasional playmaker and I enjoyed watching him and followed his career with interest. He was somewhat like Keith McKenzie in his ability to make plays in a reserve role, although Keith was quicker and smaller.

[motife]

Just for human interest, here are all the GB DL's from 1990 :

1990
DE Lester Archambeau
DE Robert Brown
DE Mark Hall
DE Tim Harris
DE Shawn Patterson
DT Matt Brock
DT Blaise Winter
LB Tony Bennett
LB Bryce Paup
NT Bob Nelson
1991
DE Lester Archambeau
DE Robert Brown
DE Shawn Patterson
DE/DT Don Davey
DT Matt Brock
DT Steve Gabbard
DT Esera Tuaolo
LB Tony Bennett
LB Bryce Paup
NT John Jurkovic
1992
DE Lester Archambeau
DE Robert Brown
DE Sebastian Barrie
DE/DT Don Davey
DT Alfred Oglesby
DT Danny Noonan
DT Esera Tuaolo
DT Keith Millard
DT Matt Brock
LB Bryce Paup
LB Tony Bennett
NT John Jurkovic
1993
DE Keo Coleman
DE Reggie White
DE Shawn Patterson
DE/DT Don Davey
DT Gilbert Brown
DT Keith Traylor
DT Matt Brock
LB Bryce Paup
LB Tony Bennett
NT Bill Maas
NT David Grant
NT John Jurkovic
1994
DE Gabe Wilkins
DE Reggie White
DE Sean Jones
DE/DT Don Davey
DT Gilbert Brown
DT Matt Brock
DT Steve McMichael
LB Bryce Paup
NT John Jurkovic
1995
DE Gabe Wilkins
DE Matt LaBounty
DE Reggie White
DE Sean Jones
DE Shannon Clavelle
DT Bob Kuberski
DT Darius Holland
DT Gilbert Brown
NT John Jurkovic
1996
DE Gabe Wilkins
DE Keith McKenzie
DE Reggie White
DE Sean Jones
DE Shannon Clavelle
DT Bob Kuberski
DT Darius Holland
DT Gilbert Brown
DT Santana Dotson
1997
DE Gabe Wilkins
DE Gerald Williams
DE Keith McKenzie
DE Reggie White
DE Shannon Clavelle
DE/DT Paul Frase
DT Bob Kuberski
DT Darius Holland
DT Gilbert Brown
DT Jermaine Smith
DT Santana Dotson
1998
DE Jonathan Brown
DE Keith McKenzie
DE Reggie White
DE Vaughn Booker
DE Vonnie Holliday
DT Billy Lyon
DT Bob Kuberski
DT Gilbert Brown
DT Santana Dotson
1999
DE Keith McKenzie
DE Roy Barker
DE Vaughn Booker
DE Vonnie Holliday
DT Antonio Dingle
DT Billy Lyon
DT Cletidus Hunt
DT Gilbert Brown
DT Jermaine Smith
DT Santana Dotson
2000
DE John Thierry
DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
DE Vonnie Holliday
DT Austin Robbins
DT Billy Lyon
DT Cletidus Hunt
DT Russell Maryland
DT Santana Dotson
DT Steve Warren
2001
DE Jamal Reynolds
DE John Thierry
DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
DE Vonnie Holliday
DT Billy Lyon
DT Cletidus Hunt
DT Gilbert Brown
DT Jim Flanigan
DT Rod Walker
DT Santana Dotson
2002
DE Jamal Reynolds
DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
DE Keith McKenzie
DE Vonnie Holliday
DE/DT Aaron Kampman
DE/DT Jared Tomich
DT Billy Lyon
DT Cletidus Hunt
DT Gilbert Brown
DT Rod Walker
DT Steve Warren
DT/DE Joe Johnson
2003
DE Jamal Reynolds
DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
DE Kenny Peterson
DE/DT Aaron Kampman
DT Chuckie Nwokorie
DT Cletidus Hunt
DT Gilbert Brown
DT Grady Jackson
DT Larry Smith
DT Rod Walker
DT Terdell Sands
DT/DE Joe Johnson
2004
DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
DE Kenny Peterson
DE R-Kal Truluck
DE/DT Aaron Kampman
DT Cletidus Hunt
DT Colin Cole
DT Corey Williams
DT Cullen Jenkins
DT Grady Jackson
DT James Lee
DT Larry Smith
2005
DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
DE Kenny Peterson
DE/DT Aaron Kampman
DT Colin Cole
DT Corey Williams
DT Cullen Jenkins
DT Grady Jackson
DT Mike Montgomery
2006
DE Jason Hunter
DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
DE/DT Aaron Kampman
DT Colin Cole
DT Corey Williams
DT Cullen Jenkins
DT Johnny Jolly
DT Kendrick Allen
DT Mike Montgomery
DT/NT Ryan Pickett
2007
DE Cullen Jenkins
DE Aaron Kampman
DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
DE Mike Montgomery
DE Jason Hunter
DT Ryan Pickett
DT Corey Williams
DT Colin Cole
DT Johnny Jolly
DT Justin Harrell
DT Daniel Muir