Hands of steel

[b bulldog]

How many friggin dropped interceptions will Collins have this year. aFor this D to dominate, Collins and Hawk need to make plays and they need to do it when we are not in the prevent D. This will get most angry but Hawk is disappointing these first four games . Jon Ryan is our most physical runner.

[RashanGary]

Hawk will be fine. Collins is a disappointment though. I'm liking Bigby better.

[b bulldog]

Will be fine is probably correct but he needs to do more now. Take away his prevent tackles, you wounldn't even know he was playing today.

[pittstang5]

How many friggin dropped interceptions will Collins have this year. aFor this D to dominate, Collins and Hawk need to make plays and they need to do it when we are not in the prevent D. This will get most angry but Hawk is disappointing these first four games . Jon Ryan is our most physical runner.

Collins should have worked on catching the ball in the off-season.


On another note....Blackmon needs to get rid of that damn cast....he dropped another sure INT.

[RashanGary]

Nah, Hawk is better than fine.

[b bulldog]

Just a tad above average at the moment. Definitely not better that Sims,greenway or Ryans.

[PackerTimer]

I thought Hawk played a good game today. He was around the ball quite a bit. I think we'll start seeing him make more big plays. I know we gave up alot of yards today but I am not worried about the defense at all. Well, maybe Bush.

[PackerTimer]

Just a tad above average at the moment. Definitely not better that Sims,greenway or Ryans.

ridiculous.

[Brandon494]

How many friggin dropped interceptions will Collins have this year. aFor this D to dominate, Collins and Hawk need to make plays and they need to do it when we are not in the prevent D. This will get most angry but Hawk is disappointing these first four games . Jon Ryan is our most physical runner.

Yea our punter is our most physical runner :roll:

I understand where you are coming from but Favre just became the all-time leader in TD passes and we just improved to 4-0. Enjoy the game and wait until tomorrow to start complaining. :wink:

[b bulldog]

He had 7 tackles, three were on prevent when he was dropping into coverage and everything was in front of him. I guess that is good for the 5th overall pick. Poppy played well also.

[b bulldog]

Brandon I see your point but this game I thought would be close but our D is concerning. Hopefully I'm not knickpicking.

[Bretsky]

Just a tad above average at the moment. Definitely not better that Sims,greenway or Ryans.


Oh here we go again.....lol

How can you project anything about Greenway yet ? How many of his games have you watched this season. He missed all of last year for God's sake

[OS PA]

He had 7 tackles, three were on prevent when he was dropping into coverage and everything was in front of him. I guess that is good for the 5th overall pick. Poppy played well also.

Wasn't the 60 yard run Poppy's fault? It looks like he shot the wrong hole on the replay... or was that someone else's responsibility?

[Brandon494]

He had 7 tackles, three were on prevent when he was dropping into coverage and everything was in front of him. I guess that is good for the 5th overall pick. Poppy played well also.

I understand he was the 5th overall pick but that doesnt mean he isnt still learning. Give him time, even some of the great ones took a few seasons before they became Pro Bowlers.

[Bretsky]

Brandon I see your point but this game I thought would be close but our D is concerning. Hopefully I'm not knickpicking.

Na, you are just treating the Packers like you do the Badgers :wink:

[gbpackfan]

Hawk is playing well. He needs to start being a difference maker, but IT will come.

Collins isn't getting beat long like in years past. These guys are d-backs for a reason guys! If they could catch, they'd be WRs. It is kind of harsh to scream at Blackmon. He has a broken thumb! He kind of needs the cast.

[b bulldog]

It is his rookie year basicly and he is doing well. That is all I'm saying, I think he also has a nose for the ball from what I've seen today. I know one can't complain about Hawk cause some think he is close to being a stud lb but the tape doesn't lie. Hawk just isn't making any big plays and that is obvious.

[b bulldog]

B I hate the Badgers, I love the Packers. We will see how Bucky starts doing when they go on the road next week :lol:

[Bretsky]

It is his rookie year basicly and he is doing well. That is all I'm saying, I think he also has a nose for the ball from what I've seen today. I know one can't complain about Hawk cause some think he is close to being a stud lb but the tape doesn't lie. Hawk just isn't making any big plays and that is obvious.


So you admit you made that generalization about Hawk not being better than Greenway based on watching one game only ??? :roll:
I guess there is no need to even debate that point then

[Bretsky]

B I hate the Badgers, I love the Packers. We will see how Bucky starts doing when they go on the road next week :lol:


I'm not sure how they'll do, but I think you had warned us about expecting a loss against MSU as well :wink:

[b bulldog]

I posted that they will lose two out of the next three games. I still think they will lose to Ill and PSU on the road. If you feel good about the way they are playing that is fine, they got very lucky yesterday.

[Rastak]

They had to pull Harris off the field because of his back at the end....any word on him?


As for Collins, Holcomb tried like hell to throw more picks but Green Bay wasn't cooperating.

[b bulldog]

collins has awful hands. Bigby is our best S at the moment.

[The Shadow]

"....Just a tad above average at the moment. Definitely not better that Sims,greenway or Ryans."


Silly.

[b bulldog]

Man crush, that is silly :lol:

[b bulldog]

Sims had 8 tackles, 3 assists and 1 forced fumble today, not a bad day.

[b bulldog]

Through 4 games

Sims has 36 tackles and one forced fumble
Hawk has 28 tackles
greenway has 27 tackles

[pittstang5]

It is kind of harsh to scream at Blackmon. He has a broken thumb! He kind of needs the cast.

That was a joke.

But.....if he didn't have the cast or have a broken thumb.....he would have had that interception.