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PackerPro42
10-14-2007, 08:19 PM
But here is a mock draft of the first round that make me extremely happy.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

If the Packers could pick up Steve Slaton that far down in the draft I would cream myself. This guy is the real deal.

RashanGary
10-14-2007, 08:22 PM
I don't know enough about him. If he's a tough small back like Jones-Drew or Barber, I'd be OK with it. If he's a weakling like Morency then I wouldn't be impressed.

PackerPro42
10-14-2007, 08:24 PM
He's a slasher back, very quick. He also has excellent hands for a RB. I know it's way to early, but he'd be a great fit for the Packers.

BallHawk
10-14-2007, 08:29 PM
Can't see us spending a 1st round pick after only seeing Jackson for one year.

PackerPro42
10-14-2007, 08:31 PM
Can't see us spending a 1st round pick after only seeing Jackson for one year.

Well, judging off our running game so far, I don't think that we can afford not to.

b bulldog
10-14-2007, 08:37 PM
I would rather the Packers sign an UFA at the rb position and try to pick a corner in round one. Our corners are getting old even though they are playing stellar ball at the moment.

Partial
10-14-2007, 08:43 PM
I too would be overjoyed if they got Slaton. Kid is a straight up stud. Much better than the Cal guy you wanted last year. I wouldn't mind Ray Rice, either.

Joemailman
10-14-2007, 08:46 PM
Slaton is listed at 190 lbs. That's awfully small for a starting RB in the NFL. Unless he has the frame to put in 15-20 lbs., I'd probably pass on him in the 1st round.

b bulldog
10-14-2007, 08:51 PM
I'd rather have Turner to fill our RB position and pick a corner in round one.

b bulldog
10-14-2007, 08:51 PM
190 is too light for this level.

MJZiggy
10-14-2007, 08:52 PM
Lol, it's WAAAYYYYYY too early!!

b bulldog
10-14-2007, 08:58 PM
I would much rather have Justin King if he is available. tHE GUY HAS AWESOME ATHLETICISM and is a top notch corner with good measureables. No way in hell does Long go #1 overall. This draft bd is all messed up. It is nebver too ealry to talk NFL draft, come on guys.

Bretsky
10-14-2007, 09:15 PM
Can't see us spending a 1st round pick after only seeing Jackson for one year.

Jackson Schmackson

He didn't carry the load at the college level; I had high hopes but I've seen nothing to indicate he can be a feature back here.

I'm all for using a #1 on a RB or blowing our wad for Michael Turner

GBRulz
10-14-2007, 09:16 PM
What's next? People wanting us to lose the rest of our games so we can still get a halfway decent pick? :roll:

mraynrand
10-14-2007, 09:44 PM
Can't see us spending a 1st round pick after only seeing Jackson for one year.

Jackson Schmackson

He didn't carry the load at the college level; I had high hopes but I've seen nothing to indicate he can be a feature back here.



BUt you haven't seen much of anything yet. He hasn't played all that much and he's not up to NFL snuff on pass pro, the O-line has no identity, so his future is uncertain. This is negative-istic glass half-empty stuff. Give it some time.

Rastak
10-14-2007, 09:48 PM
Who is he?

b bulldog
10-14-2007, 09:52 PM
He is a rb from St Norbert who now is the phy. ed teacher whom the Packers are seriously eyeing to kickstart their fleggling runing game. Word is he runs a 4.38/40 and weighs 230. I heard this from a friend of a friend in GB.

Lurker64
10-14-2007, 09:52 PM
I wonder what the NFL Draft Countdown mock at this point of last season looked like.

The internet wayback machine gives the 2006 NFL Draft Countdown mock draft predicting the following results at this point in the season:

1) Leinart to Miami
2) Bush to San Francisco
3) D'Brickishaw Ferguson to Tennesee
4) DeAngelo Williams to Cleveland
5) Mathias Kiwanuka to Denver (from Washington)
6) Marcus McNeil to Tampa
7) Chad Greenway to Chicago
8) Rodrique Wright to Giants
9) Eric Winston to Houston
10) Ahmad Brooks to Oakland
11) Haloti Ngata to Arizona
12) A.J. Hawk to New Orleans
13) Jimmy Williams to St. Louis
14) Mario Williams to Detroit
15) Jonathan Scott to Buffalo
16) Gabe Watson to Green Bay
17) Marcedes Willis to Cincinnati
18) Charles Gordon to Jacksonville
19) Laurence Maroney to Seattle
20) Justin Blalock to Dallas
21) Chad Jackson to Kansas City
22) Jesse Mahelona to Jets
23) Santonio Holmes to Chargers
24) Devin Hester to Baltimore
25) Leonard Pope to Carolina
26) Davin Joseph to Denver
27) Laron Landry to Atlanta
28) Max Jean-Gilles to Pittsburgh
29) Thomas Howard to Vikings (who lose the NFC championship, apparently.)
30) Ernie Sims to Colts
31) D'Qwell Jackson to Philadelpha
32) Jason Allen to New England.

This is an alarming success rate. Only the Titans and Colts picked where predicted and only Bush was picked where predicted. You can read the 2005 wit and wisdom of Scott Wright Here (http://web.archive.org/web/20051001-20051031re_/http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html).

Other 2005 Scott Wright mocks: August 2, 2005 (http://web.archive.org/web/20050802112605/http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html), August 17, 2005 (http://web.archive.org/web/20050817013010/http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html), September 2, 2005 (http://web.archive.org/web/20050903093438/http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html), September 6, 2005 (http://web.archive.org/web/20050906210055/http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html), September 9, 2005 (http://web.archive.org/web/20050909063311/http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html), September 17, 2005 (http://web.archive.org/web/20050917162800/http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html), November 5, 2005 (http://web.archive.org/web/20051105013115/http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html), November 23, 2005 (http://web.archive.org/web/20051123221745/http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html), December 14, 2005 (http://web.archive.org/web/20051214101137/http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html), and December 25, 2005 (http://web.archive.org/web/20051225014216/http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html).

b bulldog
10-14-2007, 09:53 PM
Now that I think of it, I was describing Adrian Peterson but I guess he is already taken

RashanGary
10-14-2007, 09:58 PM
A pass rush specialist to replace KGB
A CB to groom to replace Harris/Woodson
A playmaking TE
A playmaking RB
A stud OG or OT
An all aroung LB to replace Poppinga


I'll be happy with the best player available with most picks unless it's a DT. We have enough DT's. Other than that, we could use top tier players at any position, including WR or QB. If there is a QB that you love, there is nothing wrong with bringing in some competition for A Rod. Even though Driver, Jenning and Jones are pretty good, we could always use a Javon Walker. I'm a big fan of BPA. If we're lucky, it will fill a need like AJ Hawk.

Rastak
10-14-2007, 09:59 PM
He is a rb from St Norbert who now is the phy. ed teacher whom the Packers are seriously eyeing to kickstart their fleggling runing game. Word is he runs a 4.38/40 and weighs 230. I heard this from a friend of a friend in GB.


Thanks Bulldog.

RashanGary
10-14-2007, 10:05 PM
If there was a stud DT, and that was the best player it would suck. Harrell, Williams and Jolly are all young, long term players for this team. Pickett is on his way out in two years. Cole is just so/so. Muir hasn't shown much other than being better than the 53rd best player.

I wouldn't jump off any cliffs if we drafted a DT, but he'd have to be the best by a long shot. Even if you have 4 good WR's, you don't pass up on Randy Moss for Vonnie Holliday. You shouldn't pass up on Shawn Rodgers for Ahmad Carroll either. Point is, if there is a stud there and we have to let Cole and Muir go, I guess it's not the end of the world. I just hope it doesn't come to that. I hope the best player is at a position other than DT because this place will erupt if it went down that way.

RashanGary
10-14-2007, 10:07 PM
I'm hoping for a CB or a pass rush specialist with the #1 pick. I'd be OK with an Olineman, a RB, a TE, a LB or even a WR. After that, it wouldn't be the best situation, but it's usually best to get a playmaker at a position you don't need than just a so/so player at a position of need.

Brando19
10-14-2007, 10:09 PM
I've followed Slaton his whole college career cuz he plays for WVU..I may be a little bit on the bandwagon...but Slaton is a straight up stud. He's in the running for the Heisman and has carried WVU (along with QB Pat White) on his shoulders. This kid would be a great asset to the Pack.

Deputy Nutz
10-14-2007, 10:19 PM
Thank god we didn't take Gabe Watson in 2006

falco
10-14-2007, 10:32 PM
i expect thompson to dabble a little more in FA this year, especially if favre is coming back and he thinks we can make a run for the big game.

Rastak
10-14-2007, 10:33 PM
He is a rb from St Norbert who now is the phy. ed teacher whom the Packers are seriously eyeing to kickstart their fleggling runing game. Word is he runs a 4.38/40 and weighs 230. I heard this from a friend of a friend in GB.


Thanks Bulldog.


Is he thinking of quiting his job?

MJZiggy
10-14-2007, 10:35 PM
Wait. If he's not in college, wouldn't that make him a FA?

Lurker64
10-14-2007, 10:36 PM
i expect thompson to dabble a little more in FA this year, especially if favre is coming back and he thinks we can make a run for the big game.

If this team gets close this year and Favre announces he's coming back early in the offseason, I could see Thompson being much bolder in free agency in the offseason. Both from the perspective that it's easier to sign guys when you can convince them that they're the missing cog that you need to win a championship, and also because it's less damaging to "mortgage your future" when doing so means you go from a division champion to superbowl champion instead of from 4-12 to 8-8. Most fans would rather see you win 12 regular season games and the superbowl one year and then 6 games the next than see you go 9-7 in back to back years.

Then again, this'll probably come down to "who's out there." Are there any notables in the UFA crop this offseason?

BallHawk
10-14-2007, 10:46 PM
Honestly, I would have absolutely no problem overpaying for Michael Turner. He's a great RB and would make this team substantially better.

Bretsky
10-14-2007, 11:04 PM
What's next? People wanting us to lose the rest of our games so we can still get a halfway decent pick? :roll:

Naa; although I do wish we'd have lost one more game last year to get Marshawn Lynch :lol:

Lurker64
10-14-2007, 11:11 PM
Steve Slaton's only 5-10 190, but isn't Mike Hart about the same size? Are people down on Hart's potential in the NFL? Bush is 2" taller and 13 pounds heavier, but looks slight (and hasn't accomplished anything in the NFL to date.) On the other hand, Warrick Dunn is 10 lbs lighter and an inch shorter and he's had a productive career, but I don't know if I'd take him in the first round. Who's Slaton like? I don't see a lot of West Virginia games. Honestly I wouldn't care if he's 4'2" and 150 lbs if he made enough plays for us, and honestly that might make for funnier stories.

RashanGary
10-14-2007, 11:41 PM
Naa; although I do wish we'd have lost one more game last year to get Marshawn Lynch :lol:

Or Patrick Willis so we could replace Poppinga.

Badgepack
10-15-2007, 01:15 AM
Last year I bitched and moaned that the Packers did not pick up Hank Baskett with the 7 round pick. He actually is in a sophmore slump, or maybe cause the Eagles suck, but he is not doing shit this year, (yet). I'd still like to see him on our roster, but I am very partial.

This years draft, I have another buddy who will be available in the late rounds or even undrafted free agent.

Joe Garcia, Senior safety from from Texas Tech. 6'1" 222 lb

Good open field tackler, good hitter, but shitty 40 times.
In high school, was quite the ball hawk, and always came up with the big pick. Like Hank, a very stand up guy that is humble and doesn't do the stupid crap. Longshot to make a NFL roster, but it would be great to see him brought in for a look.

Plus, I think he would hook me up with some Packer gear.

One of the local fans of Hank made the trip to Green Bay for the Eagles game and Hank got him on the sideline during the game, something I may try to do if/when the Eagles come back to town.

Tarlam!
10-15-2007, 12:37 PM
He is a rb from St Norbert


I really must donate to that school, then.

The Leaper
10-15-2007, 01:01 PM
Too early to think about this...but I would venture to guess that the running game is going to get a lot of attention from this draft. We need a high talent guy to be THE GUY back there. We don't have that right now. We have a nice supporting cast, just no stud.

OL will need more depth too. Tauscher and Clifton can't be counted on to be consistent performers going forward any longer. In fact, it is unlikely they will remain in GB after their contracts expire.

Bossman641
10-15-2007, 01:55 PM
I'm biased, but if he comes out early I would love to pick up Rashard Mendenhall. He is deceptively fast and finishes his runs well.

Cheesehead Craig
10-15-2007, 02:44 PM
Yeah, it's way too early.

But since we're playing the game. I'd vote for a CB. Bush hasn't been cutting it at all and there's really no other alternative. Woodson is going to break down sooner or later.

Carolina_Packer
10-15-2007, 04:02 PM
I would much rather have Justin King if he is available. tHE GUY HAS AWESOME ATHLETICISM and is a top notch corner with good measureables. No way in hell does Long go #1 overall. This draft bd is all messed up. It is nebver too ealry to talk NFL draft, come on guys.

Is there any info from the web on this kid? I googled his name, and didn't find anything, except a musician by same name.

Bretsky
10-15-2007, 10:37 PM
If there was a stud DT, and that was the best player it would suck. Harrell, Williams and Jolly are all young, long term players for this team. Pickett is on his way out in two years. Cole is just so/so. Muir hasn't shown much other than being better than the 53rd best player.

I wouldn't jump off any cliffs if we drafted a DT, but he'd have to be the best by a long shot. Even if you have 4 good WR's, you don't pass up on Randy Moss for Vonnie Holliday. You shouldn't pass up on Shawn Rodgers for Ahmad Carroll either. Point is, if there is a stud there and we have to let Cole and Muir go, I guess it's not the end of the world. I just hope it doesn't come to that. I hope the best player is at a position other than DT because this place will erupt if it went down that way.


I still wonder if TT is going to let Williams walk; this season has shown that he's really needed on this roster IMO

HarveyWallbangers
10-15-2007, 10:42 PM
He's a solid player, but I think you overstate his importance a tad.

Anybody else get the bad feeling that if the Packers made the playoffs, they'd be better off not getting home field advantage? With our running game, it might be next to impossible for us to win a game in Lambeau in January. Also, we've played better on the road than at home the last two years.

Rastak
10-15-2007, 10:51 PM
He's a solid player, but I think you overstate his importance a tad.

Anybody else get the bad feeling that if the Packers made the playoffs, they'd be better off not getting home field advantage? With our running game, it might be next to impossible for us to win a game in Lambeau in January. Also, we've played better on the road than at home the last two years.


Hmmm, you are calling for a road game in the playoffs? Maybe I'm inferring that from your comment. I think the lack of running game will bite them in the ass eventually but getting into the playoffs is the main objective and the current lineup should get them there.


I'd say if Favre is hot they could overcome a game in Lambeau in the cold with no running game.

MJZiggy
10-15-2007, 10:54 PM
He's a solid player, but I think you overstate his importance a tad.

Anybody else get the bad feeling that if the Packers made the playoffs, they'd be better off not getting home field advantage? With our running game, it might be next to impossible for us to win a game in Lambeau in January. Also, we've played better on the road than at home the last two years.


Hmmm, you are calling for a road game in the playoffs? Maybe I'm inferring that from your comment. I think the lack of running game will bite them in the ass eventually but getting into the playoffs is the main objective and the current lineup should get them there.


I'd say if Favre is hot they could overcome a game in Lambeau in the cold with no running game.

Last year as the season wore on, the running game improved somewhat. I'm hoping for the same outcome this year.

Bretsky
10-15-2007, 11:00 PM
He's a solid player, but I think you overstate his importance a tad.

Anybody else get the bad feeling that if the Packers made the playoffs, they'd be better off not getting home field advantage? With our running game, it might be next to impossible for us to win a game in Lambeau in January. Also, we've played better on the road than at home the last two years.


NO WAY

Cold cold weather; Favre is fine in that. GB will react better in that.

I want the home field all the way

Him8123
10-15-2007, 11:11 PM
yea this team is usually a 2nd stretch of the season team. as far as the draft goes, I would be pleased with Steve Slaton he is a stud. Not very big but lightning fast. Ray Rice woud be a very nice pick. I see next year the Pack letthing go of Herron and maybe Wynn or Morency, keeping either of them and having Jackson, and possibly a new RB. Micheal Turner would be nice but I definitely do not see SD parting with him, or vice versa.