Former GB RBs > or = Current GB RBs

[mmmdk]

Here's a fun game for y'all; name former GB RBs that were better or just as good as current GB RBs.

Jim Taylor, Edgar Bennett, Dorsey Levens & Ahman Green are the obvious choices but how about....GERRY ELLIS. I'd say he's just as good as our current backfield.

That leaves another Q: is that a good sign for the upcoming games?

[Bretsky]

Barty Smith, Erik Torkelson, Herbert Whisper Goodman, Najeh Davenport
the list could go on and on :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Carolina_Packer]

Older...John Brockington, MacArthur Lane (is melting in the dark...all the sweet green icing is flowing down...)

Middle...Terdell (did he get teased in school or what?) Middleton, Eddie Lee Ivery (lives together in perfect harmony...), Brent Fullwood (coach, I'm not sure I can play this week)

Newer...Michael Haddix, Vince Workman, Reggie Cobb (zzzz)

[hoosier]

Don't forget Terdell Middleton, Eddie Lee Ivery, Brent Fullwood, Derrick Holmes....Right, it could go on for every. Maybe a better challenge would be to list the running backs who played for GB for more than one full season who were worse than what GB has now. So guys like Raymont Harris wouldn't count. I can think of one: Michael Haddix.

[GBRulz]

D. All of them :wink:

[Carolina_Packer]

Don't forget Terdell Middleton, Eddie Lee Ivery, Brent Fullwood, Derrick Holmes....Right, it could go on for every. Maybe a better challenge would be to list the running backs who played for GB for more than one full season who were worse than what GB has now. So guys like Raymont Harris wouldn't count. I can think of one: Michael Haddix.

Kenneth Davis from the mid-80's who went on to play for the Bills after the Packers, probably never kept an OC up at night, unless he was buying him drinks.

[K-town]

Larry Krause
Paul Ott Carruth
Mike Meade
Chuck Mercein
Jesse Clark
Dave Hampton
Les Goodman

[K-town]

Oh hell, I forgot Keith Woodhands..err Woodside.
How can I forget Keith Woodside?!!

[Green Bud Packer]

Samkon Gado

[rpiotr01]

With this line I'm not sure how well any of those guys would do now. I don't think our RBs are so bad, I don't think our linemen are untalented, but they're the problem. They're not executing the scheme. Some people just can't learn the fox trot no matter how hard they try, and I guess some linemen can't execute backside cuts properly no matter how much they're told. We have 4 such guys.

[mmmdk]

Samkon Gado

I was waiting for Gado; I really like this guy.

[HarveyWallbangers]

How about we name RBs that were worse than this year's RBs? Actually, there are three teams in the NFL who average less yards/carry than our 3.3. I can't believe there's a team with fewer rushing attempts. I'm assuming that team has had their bye already.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Samkon Gado

I was waiting for Gado; I really like this guy.

Gado is averaging 2.6 yards/carry this year. He makes our RBs look like Adrian Peterson.

[Carolina_Packer]

With this line I'm not sure how well any of those guys would do now. I don't think our RBs are so bad, I don't think our linemen are untalented, but they're the problem. They're not executing the scheme. Some people just can't learn the fox trot no matter how hard they try, and I guess some linemen can't execute backside cuts properly no matter how much they're told. We have 4 such guys.

I tend to agree with this. I think there are special running backs who can do well despite not the best O-line, but typically not. So, it sounds like we're back to the position of fish or cut bait on this blocking scheme. Do they bag it or really dig in and try learn it, execute it? I wonder what the braintrust really thinks about this? It cerainly wouldn't hurt to have a more experienced, sure RB who can find daylight and not go down easily, but for most backs, if there is no lane there is nowhere to run. Only a special back can make something out of nothing, and we do not really have such a back. I'm not sure where they go from here. I'm really glad to be 5-1, but I do hope they can figure something out to make the running game at least respectable by the time it is really needed.

[cheesner]

Barty Smith (?) Some of you older guys help me out - was that his name?

During the Bart Starr years this guy set an NFL record (I am guessing) for being cut by one team. He played with the Packers for about 5 years and was cut probably a dozen times it seams. Packers would get an injury or upset with a player and they kept bringing him back.

[Badgerinmaine]

[quote="cheesner"]Barty Smith (?) Some of you older guys help me out - was that his name?
/quote]
Yup, Barty Smith, back in the 1970s.

[Badgerinmaine]

Don't forget Donny Anderson and Jim Grabowski from the late Lombardi-early Bengtson eras. Both could have been much better had they avoided injury. Then there's MacArthur Lane from the early 1970s. You might want to put Elijah Pitts on this list, too. And wasn't Johnny "Blood" McNally a RB too? But, the youngsters we have now have some promise--give 'em some time.

[mraynrand]

LeShon Johnson and DeMond Parker could compete for a spot on the roster. But not Travis Jervey.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Wynn = Brent Fullwood
Jackson = Kenneth Davis
Morency = post-surgery Eddie Lee Ivery
Grant = ReShard Lee

[mmmdk]

Samkon Gado

I was waiting for Gado; I really like this guy.

Gado is averaging 2.6 yards/carry this year. He makes our RBs look like Adrian Peterson.

It's on only 18 carries; Gado averaged 4.1 in 2005 for GB & 4.0 in 2006 for Houston. Note: Ron Dayne is only averaging 2.9 on 62 carries this season for Houston. Furthermore; Ahman Green is only averaging 3.8 in 2007. I think the Houston OL leaves a lot to be desired - much like the Packers (sans pass protection). Gado is just as good as ANY current GB RB - there's no doubt in my mind.

[mmmdk]

Wynn = Brent Fullwood
Jackson = Kenneth Davis
Morency = post-surgery Eddie Lee Ivery
Grant = ReShard Lee

LOL :lol: Ah, the nostalgia but spot on.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I did this all from memory, so apologies if I made a mistake:

Name - College - Years - Games Played

Hornung, Paul Notre Dame 1957-62, 64-66 104
Carpenter, Lew Arkansas 1959-63 66
Winslow, Paul North Carolina Central 1960 12
Moore, Tom Vanderbilt 1960-65 78
Pitts, Elijah Philander Smith 1961-69, 71 126
Coffey, Junior Washington 1965 13
Jacobs, Allen Utah 1965 14
Grabowski, Jim Illinois 1966-70 63
Anderson, Donny Texas Tech 1966-71 84
Mercein, Chuck Yale 1967-69 22
Williams, Travis RB/KR Arizona State 1967-70 48
Hampton, Dave Wyoming 1969-71 33
Williams, Perry Purdue 1969-73 69
Krause, Larry St. Norbert 1970-71, 73-74 51
Brockington, John Ohio State 1971-77 85
Walsh, Ward Colorado 1972 2
Hudson, Bob Northeastern (Okla.) State 1972 12
Kopay, Dave Washington 1972 14
Lane, MacArthur Utah State 1972-74 41
McBride, Ron Missouri 1973 1
Highsmith, Don Michigan State 1973 7
Goodman, Les Yankton 1973-74 19
Leigh, Charlie No College 1974 10
Van Valkenburg, Pete Brigham Young 1974 5
Torkelson, Eric Connecticut 1974-79, 81 93
Smith, Barty Richmond 1974-80 67
Wells, Terry Southern Mississippi 1975 13
Harrell, Willard Pacific 1975-77 40
Taylor, Cliff Memphis State 1976 7
Starch, Ken Wisconsin 1976 6
Osborn, Dave North Dakota 1976 6
Simpson, Nate Tennessee State 1977-79 43
Middleton, Terdell Memphis State 1977-81 71
Johnson, Sammy North Carolina 1979 3
Patton, Ricky Jackson State 1979 6
Atkins, Steve Maryland 1979-81 19
Ivery, Eddie Lee Georgia Tech 1979-86 72
Ellis, Gerry Missouri 1980-86 103
Huckleby, Harlan Michigan 1980-85 84
Williams, Delvin Kansas 1981 1
Jensen, Jim Iowa 1981-82 23
Clark, Allan Northern Arizona 1982 5
Rodgers, Del RB/KR Utah 1982, 84 23
Winters, Chet Oklahoma 1983 4
Clark, Jessie Arkansas 1983-87 60
Crouse, Ray Nevada-Las Vegas 1984 16
Turner, Maurice Utah State 1985 3
Davis, Kenneth Texas Christian 1986-88 35
Carruth, Paul Ott Alabama 1986-88 43
Sterling, John Central Oklahoma 1987 2
Cook, Kelly Oklahoma State 1987 11
Weigel, Lee Wisconsin-Eau Claire 1987 2
Willhite, Kevin Oregon 1987 3
Hargrove, James Wake Forest 1987 2
Parker, Freddie Mississippi Valley State 1987 1
Hunter, Tony Minnesota 1987 1
Morris, Larry Syracuse 1987 2
Thomas, Lavale Fresno State 1987-88 2
Fullwood, Brent Auburn 1987-90 45
Collins, Patrick Oklahoma 1988 5
Mason, Larry Troy State 1988 15
Woodside, Keith Texas A&M 1988-91 64
Fontenot, Herman Louisiana State 1989-90 30
Haddix, Michael Mississippi State 1989-90 32
Workman, Vince Ohio State 1989-92 56
Thompson, Darrell Minnesota 1990-94 60
Rice, Allen Baylor 1991 6
Sikahema, Vai Brigham Young 1991 11
Webb, Chuck Tennessee 1991 2
Wilson, Marcus Virginia 1992-95 48
Bennett, Edgar Florida State 1992-96 80
Stephens, John Northwestern (La.) State 1993 5
Williams, Kevin UCLA 1993 3
Cobb, Reggie Tennessee 1994 16
Levens, Dorsey Georgia Tech 1994-2001 102
Johnson, LeShon Northern Illinois 1994-95 14
Jervey, Travis The Citadel 1995-98 56
Jones, Calvin Nebraska 1996 1
Hayden, Aaron Tennessee 1997 14
Darkins, Chris Minnesota 1997 14
Blair, Michael Ball State 1998 11
Harris, Raymont Ohio State 1998 8
Holmes, Darick Portland State 1998 11
Parker, De'Mond Oklahoma 1999-2000 19
Mitchell, Basil Texas Christian 1999-2000 17
Goodman, Herbert Graceland 2000-01 12
Green, Ahman Nebraska 2000-06 96
Mealey, Rondell Louisiana State 2001-02 14
Graham, Jay Tennessee 2002 3
Metcalf, Eric Texas 2002 1
Smith, Moe North Carolina A&T 2002 1
Fisher, Tony Notre Dame 2002-05 60
Davenport, Najeh Miami (Fla.) 2002-05 39
Jackson, James Miami (Fla.) 2004 1
Williams, Walt Grambling State 2004-05 3
Lee, ReShard Middle Tennessee State 2005 7
Gado, Samkon Liberty 2005-06 9
Herron, Noah Northwestern 2005-06 21
Pope, P.J. Bowling Green 2006 1
Morency, Vernand Oklahoma State 2006-07 13
Wynn, DeShawn Florida 2007 1
Grant, Ryan Notre Dame 2007 1
Kuhn, John Shippensburg 2007 1
Jackson, Brandon Nebraska 2007 1

[BF4MVP]

Meh..I could care less who was better..The only thing that matters is the won-loss record!! :D

But hell, you could put Jesus Christ back there and he still wouldn't be able to run behind our line..Our pass blocking is better than decent, but our run blocking is absolutely horrible..I'm not saying our backs are special backs by any means, but it's tough to run when there are no holes to run through.

[Harlan Huckleby]

But hell, you could put Jesus Christ back there and he still wouldn't be able to run behind our line.

don't be so sure, He was very crafty. ever hear about the 7 fishes and 7 loaves? it's going to take a miracle to make that running work.

If Woodson got docked $5000 for wearing yellow-bottomed cleats, you can imagine the dim view that the league is going to take towards sandals.

[Zool]

If Woodson got docked $5000 for wearing yellow-bottomed cleats, you can imagine the dim view that the league is going to take towards sandals.

Birkenstock would become a major player in NFL marketing.

Out on the frisbee golf course
"dude you see those new Jesus Walks?"

[wpony]

John Brockington, MacArthur Lane I know these were brought up but I would say these were maybe one of our best 1,2 punch running tandem we ever had considering all the variables around them line and all the rest of the offense

[AtlPackFan]

I did this all from memory, so apologies if I made a mistake:

Name - College - Years - Games Played
Rodgers, Del RB/KR Utah 1982, 84 23


When we moved to Georgia, Del Rodgers lived behind us. Great guy...only lived there about a year but my youngest son and his son were good friends and Dan was at their house a lot as was Del's son at ours. I remember him telling me that he never got used to the cold but that he never played for a team at any level with better fans. He was just amazed at all the people who came to practices and showed up for pre-season games. It boggled his mind.

[AtlPackFan]

John Brockington, MacArthur Lane I know these were brought up but I would say these were maybe one of our best 1,2 punch running tandem we ever had considering all the variables around them line and all the rest of the offense

Sorry...have to disagree. I realize the talent around Brockington/Lane wasn't anything special but I would still have to give the nod to Hornung and Taylor.

Of course I'm biased...I'm old and tend to gravitate to that era. :wink:

[superfan]

Nice list, Harlan, but I'm not buying that it was all from memory. No way does somebody remember all those guys, all those schools, AND the games played.

Maybe you should have thrown in the :wink:

[Harlan Huckleby]

Nice list, Harlan, but I'm not buying that it was all from memory.

Are you calling me a liar?

[superfan]

Are you calling me a liar?

Let's just say that I seriously doubt even Cleft Crusty would be able to recall Larry Morris's two games played in 1987 without looking it up. And that he was a Syracuse grad.

[Cleft Crusty]

Are you calling me a liar?

Let's just say that I seriously doubt even Cleft Crusty would be able to recall Larry Morris's two games played in 1987 without looking it up. And that he was a Syracuse grad.

I don't recall the Syracuse part, but Morris was a replacement player in 1987 during the strike shortened season. I believe he played in only two games and ran 8 times for a measly 18 yards. He should not be confused with Lee morris, who caught 16 passes for 259 yards and one TD. That's all from memory - I'm typing between sets on the bench press, where I can now lift 285 for five reps.

[Bretsky]

How about we name RBs that were worse than this year's RBs? Actually, there are three teams in the NFL who average less yards/carry than our 3.3. I can't believe there's a team with fewer rushing attempts. I'm assuming that team has had their bye already.

Be a pretty short thread :lol:

[Harlan Huckleby]

I believe he played in only two games and ran 8 times for a measly 18 yards. He should not be confused with Lee morris,

:) Ya, but the defense was in the backfield all day, they were still adjusting to ozone blocking scheme.

[superfan]

I don't recall the Syracuse part, but Morris was a replacement player in 1987 during the strike shortened season. I believe he played in only two games and ran 8 times for a measly 18 yards. He should not be confused with Lee morris, who caught 16 passes for 259 yards and one TD. That's all from memory - I'm typing between sets on the bench press, where I can now lift 285 for five reps.

Ol' Cleft never disappoints!

[woodbuck27]

D. All of them :wink:

NO KIDDING, Ehh M. :)

Who would have imagined that our running game would be this bad. Last place. Geee !

So very sad as we are dead without a lot more there.

Tres ugly. :)

[woodbuck27]

Nice list, Harlan, but I'm not buying that it was all from memory.

Are you calling me a liar?

Get the boxing gloves on. Get in the ring.

:)