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[packers11]

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come on guys... Start voting every day, we are dominating the soup competition so we can relax on that and focus on this... Lets bring some of our guys to the Probowl...

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[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I think Favre, Kampman, Woodson, and Barnett will all go. Then we will have two or three guys who barely make it or will be alternates: Harris, Clifton, and KGB. I don't think any WRs of ours go because of the even distribution of yards, but if one did have to go I would say it has to be Jennings. We probably have three more losses if we didn’t have him on the team this year.

[packers11]

Charles is defiantly going to Hawaii with another great performance today...

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[Merlin]

I think Jennings has a good shot because he has made the highlight reel on a regular basis. Face it, the Pro-Bowl isn't as much about who is the best at the position as is who the media likes and who they ignore. Barnett should go but probably won't because he isn't a big name in the media although this season he has finally gotten some respect in that area. Hawk has a better shot because of his name then Barnett. Harris and Woodson should both go but Harris will be left out of the mix because he isn't a household name or a big FA signing according to the media. Bigby may have a shot because he has a name that sticks with you and he has had his share of camera time. Driver has always been an unsung hero on the ream, but I don't think he is going this year even though he has definitely helped open up the passing game with his play. Korey Hall has proven to be a very good fullback. Although we don't have a viable backup for him, he has made the transition well. If we had a 1,200 yard rusher in the making he should go. Ryan Grant has a shot because of the camera time he has gotten since he took the starting role. Donald Lee has played outstanding as did Franks before he got injured. But he doesn't have a big name either yet.

Basically, the Packers have one sure lock with Favre and that is based on the positive coverage of him this season. If the Packers had one 10 games last year, it wouldn't have mattered because all they focused on was his interceptions and poor decision making. This season they think he is all world (and he has been).

No matter how this season shakes out for us, I look for many more pro-bowlers next season because we are already set up to be under the media microscope for 2008. Especially if Favre comes back.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I think Jennings has a good shot because he has made the highlight reel on a regular basis. Face it, the Pro-Bowl isn't as much about who is the best at the position as is who the media likes and who they ignore. Barnett should go but probably won't because he isn't a big name in the media although this season he has finally gotten some respect in that area. Hawk has a better shot because of his name then Barnett. Harris and Woodson should both go but Harris will be left out of the mix because he isn't a household name or a big FA signing according to the media. Bigby may have a shot because he has a name that sticks with you and he has had his share of camera time. Driver has always been an unsung hero on the ream, but I don't think he is going this year even though he has definitely helped open up the passing game with his play. Korey Hall has proven to be a very good fullback. Although we don't have a viable backup for him, he has made the transition well. If we had a 1,200 yard rusher in the making he should go. Ryan Grant has a shot because of the camera time he has gotten since he took the starting role. Donald Lee has played outstanding as did Franks before he got injured. But he doesn't have a big name either yet.

Basically, the Packers have one sure lock with Favre and that is based on the positive coverage of him this season. If the Packers had one 10 games last year, it wouldn't have mattered because all they focused on was his interceptions and poor decision making. This season they think he is all world (and he has been).

No matter how this season shakes out for us, I look for many more pro-bowlers next season because we are already set up to be under the media microscope for 2008. Especially if Favre comes back.

Wow. You just keep posting and making yourself look stupid.

1. The pro bowlers are voted by FANS, COACHES AND PLAYERS. The media has nothing to do with it.
2. Barnett. Ok, first it has to do with the media and who they like. Yet, all the media is talking about barnett not Hawk. Don't worry about appearing sane and consistent.
3. Harris. Again, the media has nothing to do with it. But, you are insane if you don't think Harris isn't well known. What does a free agent signing have to do with it.
4. Bigby. LOL. Right, they are going to take a first year safety who clearly isn't a top safety in our conference. What camera time has he had? What spectular plays has he made that dominate tv. A name that sticks with you is a criteria. Please show how his name sticks more than say Roy Williams. He isn't going because he isn't even close to pro bowl level.
5. Driver doesn't make the pro bowl because he hasn't been better than other receivers. He is a very good receiver, but has shown to drop balls he shouldn't. But, he isn't a better receiver than TO, Steve Smith, Torry Holt, Larry Fitzgerald, and Santana Moss..at least last year. He has a much better chance this year as the Rams and the Skins aren't doing well. But, if we look at the leaderboards prior to the detroit game, DD isn't top ten in any category.
6. Grant. Oh lord. Oh, i see, harris and driver who've played for years and have more media attention and are well known in the league won't make it but a guy who has played 5 or so games is now going to the pro bowl. He has no chance.
7. Favre. If they had won 10 games he surely wouldn't be throwing picks and making poor decisions. Or his talent around him woulda been better. When he plays well he goes, if he doesn't he doesn't. Players make the pro bowl often on rep that is no longer accurate. Once you've made the PB it is much easier to keep attending. That is well known.
8. Hall has not been a good fullback. Far from even being considered. More importantly FBs rarely go to the pro bowl. You have to be at Mack strong level. One a year goes at best.
9. Lee. Oh, i see. Grant in 5 games has made a name and could go, but lee having a much better season and playing all the games hasn't made a name.

Do you just make this stuff up?

It is pretty easy to figure out who is going to make the PB and quite a bit has to do with being on a winning team.

[Merlin]

Once again without any thought, you start calling people names.

1) I know who voted for the probowl. The media has EVERYTHING to do with it. The more face time a player gets on the tube and in the press, the more likely the votes are going to go to them. Kind of a stupid remark by you.

2) Once again you have a problem reading what was written. I said Barnett is finally getting his due. I said Hawk has a better shot because of his name and all the attention he got last season. All he has to do is make a few plays and he will be plastered all over the media. Once again you make shit up as you go along.

3) If teams threw at Harris more and he had the INT's he would be in the media. He doesn't get attention because he just does his job well. Harris' name is well known in the NFL (by the teams that play us) but the fan vote outside of Green Bay has no clue who the guy is. Why? The media doesn't cover him, they cover Woodson. If you can't see that then I am afraid you are a homer with no hope.

4) Bigby has had a lot of media time and if you think a generic name like Roy Williams sticks better then Atari Bigby, you are dumber then I thought. Although he is not a top safety in the NFC, he is playing well and gets attention. That's all it takes to make the pro-bowl, attention and a name. Some players make it on merit but many more make it in their name and media time.

5) Driver doesn't get the respect he deserves from the media or the NFL. Can you name a worst list of WR's to compare him to? I would maybe take T.O. over Driver for the deep ball but nothing else. Not one of the WR you listed are better then Driver, not one. To think so shows how much you don't know about the game. When you are the only WR on a team, you get attention, when you aren't you don't, thus no Pro-Bowl this year for Driver even though his numbers may be his career highs this season. Again, no attention, no pro bowl.

6) Grant has no chance? Romo got in last year. Why? Because he was a great QB? Or because the media fell all over themselves after 2 good games and a bunch of mediocre to less than that games. Right now the media is falling over Grant everytime the Packers are mentioned. But then again, according to you, the media has nothing to do with it right? Romo over Favre last year? Romo over anyone who started the whole season last year? I don't think so.

7) Favre is a lock, period. But then again, the media isn't spooging all over him are they? Oh wait, yeah they are and last I knew he was leading the fan vote. Hrm, if the media has nothing to do with it, then how's come he is leading? His name and the coverage, period. He deserves it, period.

8) Hall is a converted LB and playing well. First you bitch because I rip on players then you bitch when I compliment them. I think you just like to be a dullest tool in the shed to be honest. Show me what Mack Strong has done for Alexander this year? 3.3 YPG, pretty impresive. Hall is at 3.6 YPG but Strong gets the nod why? Oh yeah his name and the coverage. This is getting way to easy. You did graduate grade school right?

9) Lee is getting respect but not enough to be a big name yet. The media isn't all over him. Yawn, this is really really easy.

As fas as me making things up, I guess when you look at how the probowl goes every year and how there are a shit ton of players left out because they don't have the name and the coverage, you have to start looking at why. Is it their stats? (You know the perenial guage of performace to players and coaches) or is it the coverage they get and the name that coverage makes for them.

To think otherwise is naive. This isn't the 1960's. If Michael Vick and Tony Romo made the pro-bowl based upon their "stats" and their true abilities, then the NFL is a horrible football league.

It's one thing to make yourself out to be a complete dumbass by ripping on others without fully reading what they say and then making shit up. It's entirely another to start a post calling someone a name, it just shows how childish and foolish you really are.

[3irty1]

5. Driver doesn't make the pro bowl because he hasn't been better than other receivers. He is a very good receiver, but has shown to drop balls he shouldn't. But, he isn't a better receiver than TO, Steve Smith, Torry Holt, Larry Fitzgerald, and Santana Moss..at least last year. He has a much better chance this year as the Rams and the Skins aren't doing well. But, if we look at the leaderboards prior to the detroit game, DD isn't top ten in any category.

You do know that Driver made the pro bowl last year right?

[Partial]

God, you two are obnoxious as can be. I now see what people thought when I went at it with TB.

[Merlin]

Partial, can you stop being a hypocrite? You haven't "stopped" being a jackass, you just do it less than before. That doesn't mean you have had an epiphany or give you the right to speak about others when you do the same shit.

[b bulldog]

Sorry but Hawk has no chance.

[Patler]

I just don't see the Packers with a lot of Pro-Bowl players.

Offense:
Favre very likely, if not certainly;

Driver probably, he will have another Driver-like year and with the passing game of GB somone has to go. Jennings won't have enough receptions to be considered.

Lee won't be considered over Witten, Shockey or Cooley.

Grant - no way, unless a bunch of injuries take out the leaders. There are at least a half dozen that stand out head and shoulders above Grant.

Linemen? The only ones with even a chance this year would be Wells or Clifton. I will be surprised, but not flabbergasted if one makes it.

Defense- Kampman for sure, Barnett probably. Maybe for Pickett and Woodson. That's it. I don't see anyone else with a chance at all, including Harris and Hawk).

Outside chance - Mason Crosby. If he ends up leading the NFL in scoring, and stays above 80% in FG accuracy, he could do it. (I wonder what Ryan Longwell would think of that?)

One who should have made it before and I hope does this year, but who knows??? - Rob Davis. Kind of like William Henderson. Never made it when he was at his best and deserved it, but did at the end of his career. I hope the same happens to Rob Davis.

[hoosier]

One who should have made it before and I hope does this year, but who knows??? - Rob Davis. Kind of like William Henderson. Never made it when he was at his best and deserved it, but did at the end of his career. I hope the same happens to Rob Davis.

Has a long-snapper ever been selected as special teams player for Pro Bowl? I've only ever seen the kamikazee guys like Steve Tasker.

[MJZiggy]

That's a good question.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I just don't see the Packers with a lot of Pro-Bowl players.

Five Pro Bowlers is quite a bit. I could see Favre, Driver, Kampman, Barnett, and Woodson. Maybe one of the OL sneaks in because the Packers are doing so well this year. I thought Harris had a chance also, but probably not after the Dallas game. If KGB got to 15 sacks (unlikely now that his injury cost him at least a game), then maybe he'd have a chance.

[Patler]

One who should have made it before and I hope does this year, but who knows??? - Rob Davis. Kind of like William Henderson. Never made it when he was at his best and deserved it, but did at the end of his career. I hope the same happens to Rob Davis.

Has a long-snapper ever been selected as special teams player for Pro Bowl? I've only ever seen the kamikazee guys like Steve Tasker.

Yes, long-snappers are often picked by the coaches, who I believe get one or two picks to fill out their squads. It was either last year or the year before that many thought Davis might make it, because the NFC had no one with any snapping experience. The coach picked his own no-name snapper who, as I recall, had been in the league only a year or two over Davis and several other NFC specialists who were much more deserving.

[Patler]

I just don't see the Packers with a lot of Pro-Bowl players.

Five Pro Bowlers is quite a bit. I could see Favre, Driver, Kampman, Barnett, and Woodson. Maybe one of the OL sneaks in because the Packers are doing so well this year. I thought Harris had a chance also, but probably not after the Dallas game. If KGB got to 15 sacks (unlikely now that his injury cost him at least a game), then maybe he'd have a chance.

I guess what I should have said is I don't see the Packers with a lot of viable Pro-Bowl candidates. That is more what I was getting at. If five make it that would be quite a few, but I doubt all will make it. I think Favre and Kampman will, Barnett probably. Driver and Woodson probably have to do something impressive before voting ends in order to get in. With Woodson hurt, his interception total won't be anything significant, in all likelihood. Driver is kind of on the edge statistically in the NFC for receivers, floating at around #5 in both receptions and yards. He probably has a pretty good shot at making it, unless he gets shutdown the last four games.

Sometimes with the better teams you identify about half the team with a chance of making the Pro-Bowl, at least as an alternate. The Packers have those 5 and that is really about it. Next best chances might be Clifton and Crosby (if he leads the league in scoring).

[Rastak]

I voted for Favre, Kampman and Woodson. Almost voted for Al Harris.

[woodbuck27]

Hey Packer fans.

Brett Favre and Greg Jennings, as well as Aaron Kampman are all obvious picks.

Nick Barnett hasn't played too bad as wel and hasn,t relaxed on that new contract. He's trying hard most games.

PACKERS FOREVER !