Official Gameday Thread: Panthers vs. Packers

[b bulldog]

I was worried in ther first half about our D. The Dline better start getting more pressure if we are going to have a chance in Dallas cause that huge Oline will ram it down our throats if we can't.

[fan4life]

JSOline just reported in their game log:

Ryan Grant looks like he twisted his right ankle but was able to get off the field under his own power. It was the coach's decision that he did not return.

[FritzDontBlitz]

I'm worried about our D

I'm not. The entire second half was basically garbage time for them. Even with the breakdowns by Harris they still ended up winning by 14 points.

[b bulldog]

007, I agree. It is now put up or shut up time. The next two games will determine if we are as good as some think or if we are not as good as Dallas.

[b bulldog]

We didn't play well against the run in the first half and our passrush was nonexistent. That D will get us killed in Dallas

[RashanGary]

Nice win!

No matter how much they say they don't look ahead, it's hard to believe they were completely focused on the Panthers today.

I agree. The offense looked pretty vanilla. They did a poor job extending drives. The defense really wore out.

[b bulldog]

The D gave up 131 rushing yards and gave up an average of 4.5 per rush. This stat along with a poor passrush is what is concerning and this was from the first series on.

[FritzDontBlitz]

007, I agree. It is now put up or shut up time. The next two games will determine if we are as good as some think or if we are not as good as Dallas.

I am not concerned about comparisons to Dallas. I'm really not that concerned about losing to Dallas. I am only concerned about winning the division. Let Dallas be the heralded frontrunner, I just want Green Bay to secure at least a first week bye.

Fugg the accolades and the stats, just keep winning. That's all that really matters in sports anyway...

[b bulldog]

The division is ours. We's have to have a huge collapse not to take it.

[b bulldog]

Homefield advantage is big, really big.

[RashanGary]

The D gave up 131 rushing yards and gave up an average of 4.5 per rush. This stat along with a poor passrush is what is concerning and this was from the first series on.

I thought they did a nice job in the 1st half holding Carolina to 3. The second half was bad but they were on the field way too long.

[Tarlam!]

This team is going to Arizona.

[Bretsky]

Pitt vs. Jets
Bears vs. Seattle


Talk about some crap selections

[b bulldog]

Hard to refute that since they only gave up 3 points but this D will get it handed to them if they play like this the next two weeks. If Smith would have played, it would have bbeen a different game casuse nobody can cover Smith when the QB has 6-8 seconds to throw the ball.

[b bulldog]

I bet we lose to Dallas by double digits.

[Tarlam!]

I bet we lose to Dallas by double digits.

How much are you willing to wager? :twisted:

[RashanGary]

You givin me 10 pts? I'll take a $20 bet. You could pay me through paypal or vice versa :)

[retailguy]

Pitt vs. Jets
Bears vs. Seattle


Talk about some crap selections


Gee, I've got washington vs. Dallas on my Sunday ticket.... :twisted: :whist: :jig: :bump:

[Tarlam!]

You givin me 10 pts? I'll take a $20 bet. You could pay me through paypal or vice versa :)

Hahahahaha.

[run pMc]

CAR has a good rushing offense. The GB D was not great today, but they were good enough. The O hung up 21 in the first half. A win is a win. I'll gladly take a 9-1 record with a 3 game division lead any year.

[b bulldog]

Nick I'll take that and I'll pay you through the mail. I'll send you my address so you can send me the check.

[b bulldog]

I said a 10 point win by Dallas, what do you say?

[Tarlam!]

Pitt vs. Jets
Bears vs. Seattle


Talk about some crap selections


Gee, I've got washington vs. Dallas on my Sunday ticket.... :twisted: :whist: :jig: :bump:

Well, I don't have Sunday Ticket. But I have that game, too.

[run pMc]

That FG at the end of the CLE-BAL is crazy.

[b bulldog]

After the game we can pm each other our addresses

[Tarlam!]

I said a 10 point win by Dallas, what do you say?

I'll take your bet. 10 G. Wanna press the start button?

[RashanGary]

I said a 10 point win by Dallas, what do you say?

I'll take it. $20 is fine with me.

[RashanGary]

I said a 10 point win by Dallas, what do you say?

I'll take your bet. 10 G. Wanna press the start button?

haha, I don't have Tarlams money or his nuts. I'll make a small stake wager though, just for fun :)

[run pMc]

WAS 7 DAL 0, 3:00 1Q

[b bulldog]

Tarlam and Nick, I'll take the bet for $20 each but first I want to know what your thoughts point wise. What would you say the Cowboys will win by or lose by?

[RashanGary]

If the Cowboys win by 10 or more, you win.

[b bulldog]

Trust me, I am good for it and if I lose, I'll gladly send you both your $20.

[b bulldog]

that's fine Nick but I would like to know what your thoughts are????

[b bulldog]

Don't be afraid to post them :lol:

[Bretsky]

The Cowboys have weaknesses too

[b bulldog]

B, I agree but their Oline will be the difference imo.

[b bulldog]

Our D will get worn down. This game will truely be won or lost in the trenches.

[FritzDontBlitz]

I bet we lose to Dallas by double digits.

I bet you are an eternal optimist. :wink:

Dude, they won??? Carolina padded their rushing stats by staying with the run long after it was time to go to the air, with the sloppy way our deepbacks played in the second half - OK, so it was Al Harris mostly, but they still only gave up 258 yards passing - Fox hurt himself by trying to run the ball so much when he need to score faster. Stop spending so much time worrying about stats maybe?

[Bretsky]

B, I agree but their Oline will be the difference imo.


I think Dallas wins, but I don't think it's a double digit game

[b bulldog]

The Panthers had 60 some yards in the first half, that is close to half and they didn't get much pressure all day beyong 99's big series.

[b bulldog]

B, I hope you are correct but I think our D will let the team down and we NEVER PLAY WELL IN dALLLAS.

[GrnBay007]

I think the Packers will win straight up. 8-)

[b bulldog]

i'LL TAKE THAT BET 007

[b bulldog]

i'LL ONLY BET YOU ONE DOLLAR :lol:

[b bulldog]

tARLAM AND nICK, PM ME YOUR ADDRESSES SOMETIME IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.

[RashanGary]

I think the Packers are better when their front 4 get pressure. I think with a 10 day rest, they'll be a little better than they usually are.

I'm a little worried now with Grant's ankle. Hopefully he takes Thursday off, and is ready for the game in big D.

I think our ST's have an advantage. We've had some of the best Punt and Kick coverage all year and now with Krob, we have a legit return threat. I woudldn't doubt if Tramon takes over for Chuck on punts.

[Fosco33]

Anyone see the end of regulation 51 yard FG in the Browns-Ravens game to tie. It hit the upright and then bounced on the back, curved part of the upright center column. The refs correctly called in a made attempt.

Then, on the 1st possession, the Browns take it down and win it with another FG. Crazy ending.

[b bulldog]

Qb's-Packers
Oline-Cowboys
Rb's-Cowboys
WR's & Te-Even

Dl-packers
LB-even
Sec-Packers

ST-even

This has an edge to the Boys but I still think the Cowboys will win by 10

[b bulldog]

Neither team will have 10 days rest, the game is on Thursday.

[Rastak]

Congrats guys on yet another ass whipping.

[Fosco33]

Congrats guys on yet another ass whipping.

We're both able to celebrate this Sunday 8-)

[Tarlam!]

Tarlam and Nick, I'll take the bet for $20 each but first I want to know what your thoughts point wise. What would you say the Cowboys will win by or lose by?

20 $? :glug: Let's not play.

[Tarlam!]

Congrats guys on yet another ass whipping.

Glad to see you, buddy.

[Bretsky]

i'LL TAKE THAT BET 007


Not sure I'd do that Bull; it's a no win. She still owes me from last December :lol:

[GrnBay007]

i'LL TAKE THAT BET 007


Not sure I'd do that Bull; it's a no win. She still owes me from last December :lol:

LOL but that wasn't money! :P

Anyway, wasn't one of your losing bets to buy all my drinks the Sat. night before the posters game? That would mean you still owe me yet too!!

[Rastak]

Congrats guys on yet another ass whipping.

We're both able to celebrate this Sunday 8-)



It's kinda bittersweet.....maybe Chilly keeps his job.

[Bretsky]

i'LL TAKE THAT BET 007


Not sure I'd do that Bull; it's a no win. She still owes me from last December :lol:

LOL but that wasn't money! :P

Anyway, wasn't one of your losing bets to buy all my drinks the Sat. night before the posters game? That would mean you still owe me yet too!!


AH phooey; what you owe is easier to get that money. You don't have to worry about getting your drinks; if things would have worked out this year I'd have happily bought you shots all night :lol:

[retailguy]

Congrats guys on yet another ass whipping.

We're both able to celebrate this Sunday 8-)



It's kinda bittersweet.....maybe Chilly keeps his job.

BITTERSWEET? Hell, that's a GREAT thing. Win-Win. :wink:

[retailguy]

that's fine Nick but I would like to know what your thoughts are????


You honestly think he'll do that? After the way he and Scott went after woody and Merlin, he'll NEVER EVER post an original thought again. 'Course I'm not sure he ever did that anyhow... :?: Nevermind. :wink:

[Freak Out]

Congrats guys on yet another ass whipping.

We're both able to celebrate this Sunday 8-)



It's kinda bittersweet.....maybe Chilly keeps his job.

Ha ha....so that's not a silver lining?

[Scott Campbell]

Testeverde threw a perfect fade.

If the Vikings had Testeverde, they might be a wildcard team.



Well who would he throw it to?

Their wideouts aren't world beaters.

[Rastak]

Testeverde threw a perfect fade.

If the Vikings had Testeverde, they might be a wildcard team.



Well who would he throw it to?

Their wideouts aren't world beaters.


No, they aren't world beaters but once again they had a guy behind the last defender and can't get him the ball. The Vikings are much better at wide reciever this year than they were last year. I definately wouldn't call it a position of strength but it isn't their main problem.

[Scott Campbell]

I think the Packers will win straight up. 8-)



Yer a cocky bugger. That game is in Dallas.

[RashanGary]

Neither team will have 10 days rest, the game is on Thursday.

You're right. It's the following week that they get 10 days.

[RashanGary]

You honestly think he'll do that? After the way he and Scott went after woody and Merlin, he'll NEVER EVER post an original thought again. 'Course I'm not sure he ever did that anyhow... :?: Nevermind. :wink:

Damn, you never give up. It's really hard for you to jsut enjoy the winning, isn't it?

[Scott Campbell]

After the way he and Scott went after woody and Merlin.........



Yeah, and without any provocation whatsoever.......... :bs:

[gbgary]

I think the Packers will win straight up. 8-)



Yer a cocky bugger. That game is in Dallas.

yes and the Pack haven't won here for at least a 100 years. it will take a perfect game to win on that thursday. it can be done but i wouldn't go around trash talking and/or making bets on it. there's only one thing i'd like better than beating them in 10 days and that's beating them in the playoffs. let's think positive but be quiet about it. let's not irk the football gods.

[Carolina_Packer]

I posted this a little earlier this week before the Panther game regarding this week being a historical trap game for the franchise:

>>I just read in USA Today's Sports Weekly that the last two times the Packers were 8-1 through week 10 in both 2002 and 1996, they lost in weeks 11 and 12. So, I went to trusty Pro-Football-Reference.com and sure enough, here it is...

2002 (8-1, having lost only at New Orleans in Week 2)

11 | at Minnesota Vikings | L | 21-31 |
12 | at Tampa Bay Buccaneers | L | 7-21 |

1996 (8-1, having only lost at Minnesota in Week 4)

11 | at Kansas City Chiefs | L | 20-27 |
12 | at Dallas Cowboys | L | 6-21 |

Going back even further...the last time the Packers were 8-1 was 1963, and they lost at Chicago in Week 10, but remember it was a 14 Week Season and no bye week.

The last time they went undefeated going into Week 11 was the 1962 Season when they started 10-0, and finally lost at Detroit in Week 11 (Thanksgiving Day, November 22, 1962).

So, you thought this was just another week on the schedule? A win to go to 9-1 this week and the Packers have the best start in team history since 1962. If they can beat Carolina this week and win at Detroit on Thanksgiving, they can tie the 1962 team's 10-1 start, and avenge the Thanksgiving loss to Detroit in 1962 in the process! Go Pack Go!<<

Well, they broke the 8-1 barrier that two previous Packer teams could not. This is the Packers best start to a season since 1962. It's not time to celebrate anything, but damn, who'da thunk going into the season that we'd be talking about this team and the 1962 team in the same breath? Even the two Packer Super Bowl teams in the 60's, or the two in the 90's didn't get off to this good of a start. I'm not saying this team is as good as those teams, but they're fun this year.

If we can pull a NYG on Detroit on Thanksgiving, we can match the exact record of the 1962 team, and will have beaten Detroit on the road, unlike the '62 Packers!

[Harlan Huckleby]

This might sound unLombardi-like, but I didn't care that much whether they won today. I figured if they had their screw-up game today, no big deal. They can still earn homefield by winning the next two.

I think the most important thing for this game is no major injuries.

[RashanGary]

I think the most important thing for this game is no major injuries.

I'm concerned about Grant. What did they say?

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm concerned about Grant. What did they say?

Dr Lawrence McCarren reported that he walks without a limp in the locker room.

[gbgary]

They can still earn homefield by winning the next two.

i don't understand that. that would only put them one game up on the boys with four to play. they could blow it in those last four.

[Harlan Huckleby]

They can still earn homefield by winning the next two.

i don't understand that. that would only put them one game up on the boys with four to play. they could blow it in those last four.

right, I said that wrong. they would be in lead for homefield.

[Badgepack]

B, I hope you are correct but I think our D will let the team down and we NEVER PLAY WELL IN dALLLAS.

This is not an average year though.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Just thought I'd post this postgame comment from Mike McCarthy for all the whiners:

From the JSO article.....


"We need to do a better job of finishing games," McCarthy said. "We're up 28-3, we can learn from that experience and put the opponent away. There was some sloppiness in our play down the stretch that we can learn from."

That's why I think M3 is a much better motivator and coach than Shermy ever was: M3 never makes excuses for sloppy play or even his own curious playcalls while Shermy would never even admit there was a problem, all he'd say was "we'll get it fixed."

[Harlan Huckleby]

Shermy would never even admit there was a problem, all he'd say was "we'll get it fixed."

This is admitting there is a problem.

[BENZITO]

11 | at Minnesota Vikings | L | 21-31 |
12 | at Tampa Bay Buccaneers | L | 7-21 |

1996 (8-1, having only lost at Minnesota in Week 4)

11 | at Kansas City Chiefs | L | 20-27 |
12 | at Dallas Cowboys | L | 6-21 |


I dont Like the trend of loosing back to back road games when having one loss. Since thats what we have coming up the next two week @lion and @cowboys hopefully we can continue our great road performances.

[Brohm]

People expected us to lose one when we went on the road at Denver and KC on a short week. Hell was the first time a team has done that.

I think we'll be alright

[Partial]

Collins is better against the run while Rouse is far, far better when the ball is in the air. Collins has zero instincts.

I have a hunch Collins will be the SS next year and Rouse the free. Collins is awesome near the LOS

[ny10804]

Did any one see Jennings' stiff arm at the end of the play? Awesome.I caught that too. They are looking dominate right now.

Bring on the punkass lions!! :x

You can see it here 1:50 into the video: http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80449251

[FritzDontBlitz]

People expected us to lose one when we went on the road at Denver and KC on a short week. Hell was the first time a team has done that.

I think we'll be alright

Shhhh, Brohm, shhhhh I say. Optimism has no place in this thread.

:roll:

[FritzDontBlitz]

Collins is better against the run while Rouse is far, far better when the ball is in the air. Collins has zero instincts.

I have a hunch Collins will be the SS next year and Rouse the free. Collins is awesome near the LOS

Bigby is better than Collins.

We may have seen our future safety tandem today: Bigby at Strong, Rouse as weak. Bigby is kickass in run support but terrible in coverage. Rouse looked pretty good, almost had a pick in the endzone and knocked down another pass in the flat that could have been taken to the house had he picked it off. Had to add this: Rouse's size bodes well when trying to contend with tight ends in coverage. Bigby and Collins have already proven they can't cover a TE, hopefully Rouse can.

We have played with two strong safeties on the field long enough.

[Partial]

Nobody gives Collins any credit. He is better than Bigby. Neither are spectacular but both are solid and athletic.

[Bretsky]

I have to strong view on this but to wait and see

IMO Collins is a better cover guy than Bigby. But I love how Bigby lays the hits on people as well

[FritzDontBlitz]

Nobody gives Collins any credit. He is better than Bigby. Neither are spectacular but both are solid and athletic.

I never said Collins wasn't any good, I just think Bigby is better, but neither makes a good enough free safety. If either of those guys was good enough to play the free we wouldn't have so many big games by tight ends every week. Rouse did a very good job in the Carolina game and I feel he should be allowed to compete for the free spot, let Collins and Bigby battle it out for the strong.

Because Bigby is a bigger hitter I give him the edge over Collins.

[SkinBasket]

Because Bigby is a bigger hitter I give him the edge over Collins.

Too bad you gotta catch a guy to hit him. Atari is not a long term solution in this defense unless he learns where to be before he needs to be there, because his slow reactions and even slower feet outweigh his willingness to hit someone. I could see if he were forcing fumbles or making guys drop balls when they go up over the middle because WRs were afraid of him, but that's not happening.

I'm sure he still has the ability to play smarter with experience, but saying he's better than Collins is ignoring a very large, gaping, easily exploited hole in Bigby's game.