Official Game Day Thread: Packers vs. Lions

[Harlan Huckleby]

The refs owed the Pack 10 seconds there at least.

nah, Favre owes the Packers 10 seconds. what the hell was he saving the timeout for? that was one of Favre's worst brain farts ever. The clock management that whole last drive wasn't great.

[b bulldog]

Good point essox, Moss did what he does from game one. It is alarmimg how open he has been though.

[FritzDontBlitz]

With the Packers up by 8, hopefully they can tack on 7 more with this opening drive of the second half. That forces Detroit to go away from the running game in order to erase a 15 point deficit. I am kind of hoping they stay with the running game myself, it helps waste clock and limits their ability to exploit the inexperience we have in the secondary...

[Harlan Huckleby]

we need to clean a lot of stuff up in the 2nd half not only to win the game but we are a better team than what we are showing

nah, just keep limping along and get a win. They aren't going to blow out this team today, they are playing OK.

Anybody seriously still think it is smart to have Woodson return punts?

[b bulldog]

Brett wanted to keep his timeout just in case they didn't score. I am far from a Favre apologist but thAT WAS ON THE REFS.

[mmmdk]

Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila left Thursday's game with an ankle injury.

Gbaja-Biamila had his ankle rolled over as he contributed to a sack of Jon Kitna. He walked to the locker room under his own power, and his return is questionable

[KYPack]

KGB with an ankle
CW with a toe. On the punt return like all of us were worrying about.

This crew ain't calling PI today. that's OK as long as they stay consistent.

I've wanted to see Tramon williams get reps at CB, but not this way!

[b bulldog]

yOU CAN'T CHANGE AT THIS POINT OF THE SEASON. Chuck wanted to do it and was exstatic that he's been given the chance to do it. The move should have been made in the preseason but wait a minute, Blackmon is never able to get on the field.

[b bulldog]

Hopefully all of our guys will be able to play next week.

[FritzDontBlitz]

The refs owed the Pack 10 seconds there at least.

nah, Favre owes the Packers 10 seconds. what the hell was he saving the timeout for? that was one of Favre's worst brain farts ever. The clock management that whole last drive wasn't great.

Whatever. What if he had used the timeout, went back for one more pass and got sacked?

Fascinating how even when the refs fuck up its still Brett's fault.

[esoxx]

Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila left Thursday's game with an ankle injury.

Gbaja-Biamila had his ankle rolled over as he contributed to a sack of Jon Kitna. He walked to the locker room under his own power, and his return is questionable

That looked pretty nasty, kind of like when Hawk fell on Larry Johnson's ankle/foot. I'd be surprised if he were back against Dallas and if he is, can he be as explosive on a gimpy ankle.

Packers getting bit by the injury bug today so far. :x

[b bulldog]

Jolley, KGB, Woodson, key contributers on D who are injured.

[b bulldog]

We've been pretty good on the injury front this year, injury is a part of the NFL.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Brett wanted to keep his timeout just in case they didn't score. I am far from a Favre apologist but thAT WAS ON THE REFS.

There's 13 seconds left .... tick tick tick and Favre is waving his arms to get the team lined up for a spike. Forget the refs. What sense does this make!? At extreme best, he lines up team and spikes with a few seconds left, if they're lucky, leaving one lousy play.


TOTALLY BONEHEAD. REFS DON'T MATTER.

[b bulldog]

iF THE FRONT FOUR CAN GET PRESSURE, WE WILL WIN THIS GAME.

[Pacopete4]

favre and mccarthy need to have some sort of system in place to when to take a time out and when not.. they both can call em, obviously need to clean that area up too i fault both

[mmmdk]

That # 50 is pretty darn good...

No one took the bait?

I think Hawk & Sims are both great - my auth. AJ Hawk jersey says who I support! :P

[b bulldog]

oNE PLAY IS ALL THAT WOULD BE NEEDED. The refs should have cleared the pile or stopped the clock.

[FritzDontBlitz]

I am guessing if Woody can walk at all, he will be back for the second half....

[The Leaper]

Whatever. What if he had used the timeout, went back for one more pass and got sacked?

Then what are you upset about? You apparently want a FG, because there is no way they get to the line and spike the ball with more than 5 seconds left on the clock. It would take at least 8 seconds for everyone to get in position and make the spike.

You run a fade pattern or fade stop that won't allow for a sack, obviously. Favre has a clock in his head, and if it isn't there, you throw it out the back of the end zone.

Arguing that you can't take a chance at the end zone if you take a time out is ridiculous to me.

[b bulldog]

leaper, I think your dead wrong but we can agree to disagree

[Brandon494]

Rouse shut down CJ in college also.

No he didnt, CJ had 3 TDs agaisnt VT last season.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Whatever. What if he had used the timeout, went back for one more pass and got sacked?

Fascinating how even when the refs fuck up its still Brett's fault.


Well, if you don't want a chance to throw in the endzone, then just do what was done. Take one play and kick a field goal. But that is indefensible.

The REFS did not cost the packers jack. Favre should have called timeout immediately and leave two plays.

[mmmdk]

favre and mccarthy need to have some sort of system in place to when to take a time out and when not.. they both can call em, obviously need to clean that area up too i fault both

McCarthy is 'inside' Favre's helmet...I think it's on the coach BUT it's really the refs that are homers.

[b bulldog]

Refs cost the packers a chance

[Harlan Huckleby]

oNE PLAY IS ALL THAT WOULD BE NEEDED. The refs should have cleared the pile or stopped the clock.

It doesn't matter. Even if they cleared the pile immediately, Favre's spike brain-fart would have left them with time for one play only. Dumb.

[b bulldog]

Woody is out, KGB should return...Larry McCarren

[Harlan Huckleby]

Refs cost the packers a chance

you can keep saying this, but it flies in face of reality. Favre's spike attempt cost them.

[The Leaper]

oNE PLAY IS ALL THAT WOULD BE NEEDED. The refs should have cleared the pile or stopped the clock.

It doesn't matter. Even if they cleared the pile immediately, Favre's spike brain-fart would have left them with time for one play only. Dumb.

I agree Harlan. You take the time out with 11-12 seconds left, and not run around doing a chinese fire drill trying to spike it.

[gbgary]

ok........let's kick some ass!

[esoxx]

oNE PLAY IS ALL THAT WOULD BE NEEDED. The refs should have cleared the pile or stopped the clock.

It doesn't matter. Even if they cleared the pile immediately, Favre's spike brain-fart would have left them with time for one play only. Dumb.

I agree but M3 should have called time out too. Not sure what he was thinking either.

[woodbuck27]

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Thanksgiving games: Packers should feast on Lions

By Clifton Brown - SportingNews

I still don't think the Lions are going to the playoffs.

Give them credit, however, for making their Thanksgiving Day game significantly more intriguing than it usually is.

The Lions (6-4) have been better than I expected. If the playoffs began today, they'd be in. Their coach, Rod Marinelli, has done an excellent job changing the negative culture that has surrounded the franchise.

Is that enough praise for the Lions? I hope so. Because I don't like their chances against the Packers (9-1) on Thursday, and if the Lions drop their third consecutive game, it could set the stage for a very difficult December.

The Lions' weaknesses play into Green Bay's hands.

Detroit's defense ranks 30th out of 32 NFL teams against the pass.

Do you think Brett Favre has noticed?

Favre has been sacked only 14 times this season, and if the Lions do not get a pass rush in Favre's face, he will pick them apart.

Detroit's Jon Kitna figures to be the quarterback under duress.

He already has been sacked 43 times this season, more that any other quarterback in the NFL.

The Packers have two talented pass rushers, Aaron Kampman and Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, who will be looking to make a Thanksgiving sandwich out of Kitna. If the Lions can't keep their quarterback off his back, they can't win this game.

Detroit's defense leads the league in forcing turnovers (30), and causing more would give the Lions their best chance to beat Green Bay. But Favre isn't as prone to turnovers as he used to be, which is a key reason the Packers are 9-1.

Marinelli has the Lions headed in the right direction, and I can see him taking a Detroit team to the playoffs in the future. I just don't think it will happen this season.

woodbuck27.Thanksgiving games: Packers should feast on Lions

By Clifton Brown - SportingNews







I still don't think the Lions are going to the playoffs.

Give them credit, however, for making their Thanksgiving Day game significantly more intriguing than it usually is. The Lions (6-4) have been better than I expected. If the playoffs began today, they'd be in. Their coach, Rod Marinelli, has done an excellent job changing the negative culture that has surrounded the franchise.

Is that enough praise for the Lions? I hope so. Because I don't like their chances against the Packers (9-1) on Thursday, and if the Lions drop their third consecutive game, it could set the stage for a very difficult December.

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The Lions' weaknesses play into Green Bay's hands. Detroit's defense ranks 30th out of 32 NFL teams against the pass. Do you think Brett Favre has noticed? Favre has been sacked only 14 times this season, and if the Lions do not get a pass rush in Favre's face, he will pick them apart.

Detroit's Jon Kitna figures to be the quarterback under duress. He already has been sacked 43 times this season, more that any other quarterback in the NFL. The Packers have two talented pass rushers, Aaron Kampman and Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, who will be looking to make a Thanksgiving sandwich out of Kitna. If the Lions can't keep their quarterback off his back, they can't win this game.

Detroit's defense leads the league in forcing turnovers (30), and causing more would give the Lions their best chance to beat Green Bay. But Favre isn't as prone to turnovers as he used to be, which is a key reason the Packers are 9-1.

Marinelli has the Lions headed in the right direction, and I can see him taking a Detroit team to the playoffs in the future. I just don't think it will happen this season.

woodbuck27:

The LIONs have to get it straightened out at the half or Favre will blow them away as this game progress's.



At the half he is all of the show for the Packers as we only saw Ryan Grant carry the ball for sevem yards, yet 1 TD in the opening half.

Brett Favre has passed for another TD and a total of 184 yards on 15 for 21.

I hope that he gets more than 350 yards today and we must win this huge game for a near LOCK on the NFCN.

I hope that MM doesn't take the ball out of Fare ,s hands as we have seen him do earlier this season and with catosthropic results.

MM has to let Favre get it done. Put the Lions nearly away for another season. :)

[The Leaper]

Just stay in the 5 WR set ALL DAY.

[esoxx]

Nice ball to K-Rob! Beauty.

[FritzDontBlitz]

OK, why didn't K-Rob just bull his way to the endzone on that play?

[woodbuck27]

It appears that MM has gone to school on his bad adjustment at half time earlier this season and a decision that on two occassions as I re-call it threw us out of the game.

MM has to do what we know best.

USE FAVRE's skills amd leadership and ability to see the required play as an option, depended on defensive alignment.

[The Leaper]

OK, why didn't K-Rob just bull his way to the endzone on that play?

He would've been pushed out of bounds regardless.

[b bulldog]

85 has great, soft hands

[FritzDontBlitz]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

Nice drive to open the second half. 24-9 Packers. Work the run game and use play-action from here on out to eat the clock and also put one or two quick strike TD's on the board....

[woodbuck27]

There YOU are Harvey:

Green Bay Packers at 15:00 - Timeout #1 by DET at 11:17.

2-2 DET47 (11:37) (Shotgun) B.Favre pass deep right to K.Robinson pushed ob at DET 4 for 43 yards (T.Fisher; G.Alexander).

Huge pass and catch for Koren !

Way to go man!!

I always believed in this player. I pray for him Harvey. :)

GO Koren Robinson !!

[esoxx]

Detroit is folding like the Paper Lions they are. First half schedule sucked and they took advantage of it. Now they're getting exposed.

Not only aren't they making the playoffs, I predict they will finish under .500.

Nice job Matt Millen.

[The Leaper]

We have the best 5 receiver set in the NFL...we should use it almost exclusively until someone starts showing even SOME resistance to it.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Let's see how much time Detroit chooses to use up on this drive by staying with the run....

[woodbuck27]

Nothing to it !!

Greg Jennings converts after ' THE BOMB ' to Koren Robinson (43 yards) down to the Loins 4 yard line.

What a quarterback we have now b bulldog!!

You have to be pleased Packer fan.

Packers now 24 and Lions 9.

Looking very good so far Packer fans. :)

[cheesner]

Anyone know who the 'inactives' are today?

[The Leaper]

The defense is starting to make some noise against the run.

[FritzDontBlitz]

almost 5:00 wasted on this drive so far....

[The Leaper]

Anyone know who the 'inactives' are today?

I know Harrell is inactive...he was in his hoodie on the sidelines.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Jason Hunter needs to cut under after pushing his rush so deep, he has a clear lane to Kitna if he does....

[woodbuck27]

It might be an early day For Brett.

Give that other fella (what's his name ?? ahhh. . . Aaron something) a shot but then can you see the sacks? :)

Now keep him on the bench because then we don't disclose that he has little value.

Favre will play till he drops now.

A prediction:

We don't see Aaron Rodgers win a game for the Packers before he goes elsewhere.

[b bulldog]

Hansen is a good K

[FritzDontBlitz]

OMFG

NICE tackle of Kampmann from behind on that last pass.....

[The Leaper]

almost 5:00 wasted on this drive so far....

I'll happily give them 3 more 5:00 drives ending in 3 pts.

[jkscholz]

Packers inactives
WR Shaun Bodiford
CB Will Blackmon
S Nick Collins
G Allen Barbre
TE Bubba Franks
DT Justin Harrell
DT Daniel Muir
DT Johnny Jolly

[FritzDontBlitz]

almost 5:00 wasted on this drive so far....

I'll happily give them 3 more 5:00 drives ending in 3 pts.

5:15 in all, and hell yes I'll take that all day too. They haven't been able to stop the 5 wides yet....

[b bulldog]

td=dAGGER

[b bulldog]

99 has been quiet today

[Freak Out]

That is very telling.....Jolly out and Harrell still can't make the cut.

[b bulldog]

I thought the same thing

[FritzDontBlitz]

OK, can someone PLEASE explain to me why Daryn Colledge INSISTS on jumping AFTER Brett is able to use the hard count to get a defensive lineman to jump offsides? It's freakin ridiculous....

[Freak Out]

Wow.

Kia!

[b bulldog]

Dagger

[The Leaper]

OK...TAKE FAVRE OUT OF THE GAME NOW.

Let's see what Rodgers can do.

[cheesner]

Wow.

Kia!You must love that car. I drive a Hundai, you don't see me bragging.

[BallHawk]

OK...TAKE FAVRE OUT OF THE GAME NOW.

Let's see what Rodgers can do.

Hey, not until Favre breaks the record! :D

[FritzDontBlitz]

WOO TO THE FUGGIN HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Ya think M3 learned from last Sunday's game against Carolina? :wink:

[The Leaper]

OK...TAKE FAVRE OUT OF THE GAME NOW.

Let's see what Rodgers can do.

Hey, not until Favre breaks the record! :D

OK, we'll give him one more completion...then bring in Rodgers.

[FritzDontBlitz]

OK...TAKE FAVRE OUT OF THE GAME NOW.

Let's see what Rodgers can do.

Nope. Not even 4th quarter yet. 1:42 left in 3rd. Let's see how much time Detroit eats up on their next drive. If they run the clock under 10:00 I say take Brett out, if not, let him run one more drive....

[gbgary]

1st quarter belonged to detroit but after that.............all Packers!!

[Freak Out]

Martz needs to start walking in the evenings or something.

[cheesner]

Give Brett one more series and then its ARs turn.

[FritzDontBlitz]

OK, :47 left in the 3rd quarter up 31-12. I say put Favre in to run the offense and eat some clock. Then let A-Rod get some throws in.

I'm sure no one would be disappointed at seeing A-Rod except maybe Frank Caliendo. Did you see his pregame schtick today? Hilarious....

[The Leaper]

Detroit is getting frustrated. Let's get this drive over with and get Favre and some of the other key starters out of there.

[b bulldog]

I missed it, I love his madden/Favre antics

[b bulldog]

Keep Brett in for one last drive, get more points and than give ARod his chance.

[Fosco33]

When do you rest Favre? Up 19 in 4th Q - with the Lions offense looking barely alive...

I say one more series - even a FG makes it a 3 TD game. We need fresh legs for the Cowboys.

[The Leaper]

When do you rest Favre? Up 19 in 4th Q - with the Lions offense looking barely alive...

This should be Favre's last series.

[woodbuck27]

F A V R E

ANOTHER H U G E DAY !!!

He is just out of sight to date this season and definitely a candidate for NFL MVP.

Tom Brady has it all in NE and just imagine what we would be doing if we had a more solid running game and a WR with the talent of Randy Moss.

It would be awesome!!

SUPER BOWL Baby !!

[Fosco33]

wow - driver for 40 more yards...

I think Packers have the most 40 or more yard plays in the league.

[Bossman641]

Woulda been nice to see Krob get a TD. I think Favre really wants him to get one.

[MadtownPacker]

I like the announcer saying "if you're new england you go for it right there". :lol:

[FritzDontBlitz]

34-12 Packers.

Favre 28/36 for 341 yards 3 TD's NO PICKS.

Very impressive day for the old dude.

[MadtownPacker]

Woulda been nice to see Krob get a TD. I think Favre really wants him to get one.They are starting to get their timing down. THe TDs will come.

[gbgary]

gonna go cook now so everyone have a great day!! be safe and.................GO JETS!!

[FritzDontBlitz]

Woulda been nice to see Krob get a TD. I think Favre really wants him to get one.

K-Rob gets that other foot down he gets it. Still a little rusty I guess.

Now let's get the turnover on defense. The young guys are getting some very good game experience.

Is it too early to start the Aaron Rouse Bandwagon thread? I say he's earned more playing time when Collins returns, maybe even keeps a starting slot. Let Collins and Bigby battle it out for the other spot....

[FritzDontBlitz]

LMAO

Nice sympathy spot by the refs.....

[FritzDontBlitz]

Hmmmmm.....

If the Lions score here with 10:00 left, does Favre go back in?

[b bulldog]

i SAY YES, IT IS ONLY A 2 POSSESSION GAME

[The Leaper]

If Favre is going to be in the game, then keep the 5 WR set and SCORE. Rodgers can come in and handoff.

[The Leaper]

Now Driver is limping. FINISH THE DAMN GAME OFF NOW.

[The Leaper]

That was a stupid drive. STUPID. We've torn up the Lions all day with 5 WRs...and we come out and run the ball twice and go 3 and out.

[b bulldog]

tHIS GAME ISN'T OVER YET :o

[mmmdk]

That was a stupid drive. STUPID. We've torn up the Lions all day with 5 WRs...and we come out and run the ball twice and go 3 and out.

I agree. Also the D is worn down - I think only a turnover can stop Detroit from scoring a TD. The D is tired and hit by injury bug.

[Freak Out]

That was a stupid drive. STUPID. We've torn up the Lions all day with 5 WRs...and we come out and run the ball twice and go 3 and out.

I agree. Also the D is worn down - I think only a turnover can stop Detroit from scoring a TD. The D is tired and hit by injury bug.

Plus they are missing int's.

[The Leaper]

Bigby is SUCH a liability in coverage.

[Freak Out]

TOTAL BS CALL!

[mmmdk]

That was a stupid drive. STUPID. We've torn up the Lions all day with 5 WRs...and we come out and run the ball twice and go 3 and out.

Why is McCarthy so conservative?

[cheesner]

Bigby is SUCH a liability in coverage.Bullshit. That was a good play by him and a bad call.

[mmmdk]

That was a stupid drive. STUPID. We've torn up the Lions all day with 5 WRs...and we come out and run the ball twice and go 3 and out.

Why is McCarthy so conservative?

...when protecting a lead?

[fan4life]

I can't watch this any more. Lack of killer instinct is going to hurt this team... maybe not this game, but before the end of the season, it will.

[b bulldog]

tHIS is where the lack of a running game really hurts

[Brohm]

Here we go MM's 3 and out fist fuck is going to cost us

[mmmdk]

Bigby is SUCH a liability in coverage.Bullshit. That was a good play by him and a bad call.

I think it was a pretty thin call but Bigby did bump into him.

[b bulldog]

Can't bump the wr when the ball is in the air.

[The Leaper]

tHIS is where the lack of a running game really hurts

No it doesn't. Keep using 5 WRs and keep throttling the Kittens secondary. They CAN'T stop us when we put 5 WRs on the field.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Play-action bomb puts it away.

[mmmdk]

I can't watch this any more. Lack of killer instinct is going to hurt this team... maybe not this game, but before the end of the season, it will.

Not so much in the regular season but in the playoffs it's way more tough to protect a lead or even build on a lead.

[mmmdk]

Holding :x

[The Leaper]

nice run by Grant.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Holding :x

The ref who called that was looking at it from the worst angle, he had to be at least 10 yards upfield. The replay looked clean, pretty good pancake by Moll in fact.

[Freak Out]

Jones has great hands......today. :lol:

[FritzDontBlitz]

Delay of game, but its first down so not so bad.


GREAT RUN by Grant. That guy is the shit, I tell ya...

[mmmdk]

Lee got away with holding :roll:

[FritzDontBlitz]

Lee got away with holding :roll:

Shhhhhhhhhh :oops:

[b bulldog]

Look, they're running the ball, chewing clock :o

[The Leaper]

Lee got away with holding :roll:

Of course. THe Lions have all day too.

[Freak Out]

1st down and the heart of Detoilet is ripped out.

[b bulldog]

You saw that also

[FritzDontBlitz]

Look, they're running the ball, chewing clock :o

Grant has 100 yards on 14 carries now.

[Freak Out]

Damn....I was kinda looking forward to the Kung Fu beating heart thing.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Dammit!

Why no plays to the TE in the red zone?????

FG is good. 11 points up now. Detroit is out of timeouts with 1:44 left.

Let's see what kind of calls the refs pull out of their asses now....

[mmmdk]

This reminds me of that 29-27 Packers win at Detroit some years ago - was that a thanksgiving? Can't recall. Detroit missed a 2-point to tie; Packers had big lead.

[FritzDontBlitz]

The young guys need to play some defense now....

[LL2]

GB is playing some lousy defense in the 4th qtr...Detroit should not have 26 points!

[Freak Out]

Kia!

[Fosco33]

Solid W.

Even Aikman thinks we're good - that's scary.

[b bulldog]

Why wasn't Hawk playing

[FritzDontBlitz]

GB is playing some lousy defense in the 4th qtr...Detroit should not have 26 points!

Green Bay has been playing with a lot of defensive backups on the field for most of the game.

A win is a win. I'm more concerned about Charles Woodson's foot than I am about the final score.

[mmmdk]

Solid W.

Even Aikman thinks we're good - that's scary.

True; it was at Detroit on Thanksgiving. Only 6th Packer vs Detroit on thanksgiving. Detroit has 11 wins & 1 was a tie.

[mmmdk]

Why wasn't Hawk playing

He looked OK; helmet on.

[b bulldog]

Why wasn't he playing though

[Tarlam!]

Solid W.

Even Aikman thinks we're good - that's scary.

I never knew it, but I hate Aikman. I loathed every comment he made. I hope he gets a job selling insurance very soon.

[FritzDontBlitz]

I like how Brett never acts like they have arrived, he always stresses they have more work to do.

I am not fond of the final score, but this was very good experience for a very raw secondary, once Woody went down early there were young guys everywhere. Roy Williams and Calvin Johnson were towering over our young DB's all game. I think they managed to hold up pretty well in spite of the final score, and they will only get better as the season wears on.

Special kudos are in order for Tramon Williams for chasing down that return and helping hold D-town to 3 points earlier in the game, it came up big at the end.

10-1 ain't nothin' to sneeze at. Well done Packers...

[b bulldog]

Tramon Williams looks like he could be a DB that sticks around for a while.

[Brohm]

Williams has great closing speed and puts a lick on a receiver. I thought he would be exploited a bit with the size mismatch but he held up good. Solid tackling too.

[MadtownPacker]

Tramon Williams made several plays out there. Very impressed with him. I honestly thought it was gonna turn into a shoot out once Chuck went out.

[b bulldog]

I like him much better than Bush. It would be nice to see what Blackmon could do also.
s

[mmmdk]

Why wasn't he playing though

Beats me.

[Brohm]

Dime package I am guessing. Barnett is in on all packages, Hawk and Barnett in Nickel and just Barnett in Dime. They had Peprah out there as the 6th DB.

[RashanGary]

Packers played OK. Losing KGB and Woodson hurts. They said it was a toe. Probably a broken toe, which is at least a couple weeks, probably more like 4-6. I'm guessing KGB is out a month.

The good thing is we should have both of those guys for the playoffs. The bad thing is they'll be rusty.

[RashanGary]

Dime package I am guessing. Barnett is in on all packages, Hawk and Barnett in Nickel and just Barnett in Dime. They had Peprah out there as the 6th DB.

Good explainatioin. I didn't think of that.

[b bulldog]

Bishop and Barnett were both in on certain plays in the 4th quarter while Hawk was on the sidelines.

[b bulldog]

McCarren thinks that KGB will be ready next Thursday

[RashanGary]

McCarren thinks that KGB will be ready next Thursday

I hope so. KGB is always rested and ready in the 4th. He's been a terror when it's been time to put it away.

[b bulldog]

They really missed him in quarter number 4. How bad must Harrell be??

[mmmdk]

Packers played OK. Losing KGB and Woodson hurts. They said it was a toe. Probably a broken toe, which is at least a couple weeks, probably more like 4-6. I'm guessing KGB is out a month.

The good thing is we should have both of those guys for the playoffs. The bad thing is they'll be rusty.

Broken toe...that's gotta hurt. I hope not.

[RashanGary]

We'll find out about Harrell next year. If he sucks next year, I'll stop believing.

[Badgepack]

the packers receivers made some good tough catches today, the whole darn bunch of them, very impressive. Favre is just toying with the defenses the last 4 games.

10-1

GO JETS

[b bulldog]

Driver hopefully will be OK ALONG WITH tAUSCHER.

[FritzDontBlitz]

We need more TE involvement in the red zone. I haven't watched the tape yet, but I can't remember Donald Lee getting much thrown his way. Just checked the nfl.com stats, says Lee had one catch for 10 yards.

How serious is Bubba's knee injury? We could use him on the goal line. I would like to see more two TE sets but Krause ain't gonna cut it.

We put up 37 points, but amazing as it sounds we still left a lot of points out there on the field today..

[b bulldog]

Forgot about that, Lee was very quiet today.

[Scott Campbell]

Packers played OK. Losing KGB and Woodson hurts. They said it was a toe. Probably a broken toe, which is at least a couple weeks, probably more like 4-6. I'm guessing KGB is out a month.

The good thing is we should have both of those guys for the playoffs. The bad thing is they'll be rusty.



What play did Woodson get hurt on? It better not have been as a punt returner.

[b bulldog]

Returning punts, on his 35 yard return :(

[Scott Campbell]

2-2 DET47 (11:37) (Shotgun) B.Favre pass deep right to K.Robinson pushed ob at DET 4 for 43 yards (T.Fisher; G.Alexander).

Huge pass and catch for Koren !

Way to go man!!

I always believed in this player. I pray for him Harvey. :)

GO Koren Robinson !!


Awfully nice of Ted to give him a chance when much of the NFL turned their backs on him. Don't you think?

[Scott Campbell]

Returning punts, on his 35 yard return :(


Wow. And having to cover Cowboys next week with the young guys. The decision to let Woodson return punts may end up costing us home field in the playoffs against the Cowboys.

[The Leaper]

We put up 37 points, but amazing as it sounds we still left a lot of points out there on the field today..

Not nearly as many as the Lions.

[BallHawk]

It sounds like most of the injuries today were nothing of great concern. KGB was walking around, CW was able to walk to the locker room without a lot of pain. Pickett came back in. Tauscher, it sounds like, could of played.

The one that concerns me is CW, but it doesn't look like something that will keep him out long. We just need him for Dallas. If he can play against Dallas, he can have a game or two to rest up. We're going to need to play A-grade to beat Dallas and we need our best defensive player to do it.

[b bulldog]

The packers truely are a "team" and all of the parts got us to 10-1. We do need everyone to be healthy or at least able to contribute next week.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Returning punts, on his 35 yard return :(


Wow. And having to cover Cowboys next week with the young guys. The decision to let Woodson return punts may end up costing us home field in the playoffs against the Cowboys.

Some will tell you the Packers had no choice but to have Woodson fielding punts. :roll:

I guess they'll just rush 11 and attempt to block punts the rest of the season.

This situation pisses me off. Having your aging star corner return punts makes zero sense.

[Brohm]

But then again, he could have gotten injured just the same trying to run a pick back for a touchdown. He is back there to make plays and he was making one.

Philly game is a good example of why you don't generally want a wide-eyed rook back there.

[b bulldog]

he wanted to do it but if Chuck wasn't to be the return man, we should have had another player doing it in the preseason. I don't think it is a great idea to go from Woody to a rookie in week 10 or 11. I know Will was to be the return man but he can't be counted on.

[b bulldog]

If Bush makes the block, Chuck doesn't get hurt and probably takes it to the house.

[Harlan Huckleby]

But then again, he could have gotten injured just the same trying to run a pick back for a touchdown. He is back there to make plays and he was making one.

He made a damn nice runback. It's a judgment call. I think there are other players available who can perform nearly as well as Woodson.

[Harlan Huckleby]

he wanted to do it but if Chuck wasn't to be the return man, we should have had another player doing it in the preseason. I don't think it is a great idea to go from Woody to a rookie in week 10 or 11. I know Will was to be the return man but he can't be counted on.

What about Robinson?

[]{ilr]3]

Well I just got done watching the game. I had it recorded and everyone I met or called the first thing I had to say was "Do Not tell me anything about the game!" :lol:

Sorry if this is one big recap for you guys but here I go.

What the hell was with that running out of the clock at the end of the half. I could not see that the ball was ever loose and it seemed to me like 3 lions players just jumped up and started acting like it. The lions were using that as cover to keep the clock running to either limit them to a FG or keep them from scoring all together!

There were a lot of other BS things I felt the lions were doing as well that they kept getting away with that just seemed cheap. The lions are now in competition with the bears for the lame ass cheap shot bastards of the NFCN!

These injuries are really upsetting to me because of the NFL's bullshit scheduling. The Packers have had to travel to this game, get all banged up and then travel home to prepare for the next game. And Dallas is (and has been) already sitting in the easy chairs relaxing for next week. :evil:

[FritzDontBlitz]

{ilr]3]Well I just got done watching the game. I had it recorded and everyone I met or called the first thing I had to say was "Do Not tell me anything about the game!" :lol:

Sorry if this is one big recap for you guys but here I go.

What the hell was with that running out of the clock at the end of the half. I could not see that the ball was ever loose and it seemed to me like 3 lions players just jumped up and started acting like it. The lions were using that as cover to keep the clock running to either limit them to a FG or keep them from scoring all together!

There were a lot of other BS things I felt the lions were doing as well that they kept getting away with that just seemed cheap. The lions are now in competition with the bears for the lame ass cheap shot bastards of the NFCN!

These injuries are really upsetting to me because of the NFL's bullshit scheduling. The Packers have had to travel to this game, get all banged up and then travel home to prepare for the next game. And Dallas is (and has been) already sitting in the easy chairs relaxing for next week. :evil:

In case you haven't noticed, Dallas is never slated to visit Green Bay during the regular season. That's why I don't put much stock in the won/loss records between the two, because most of the more recent games have all been in Texas except for in 1997 when the Pack roasted their asses 45-17....

[]{ilr]3]

{ilr]3]Well I just got done watching the game. I had it recorded and everyone I met or called the first thing I had to say was "Do Not tell me anything about the game!" :lol:

Sorry if this is one big recap for you guys but here I go.

What the hell was with that running out of the clock at the end of the half. I could not see that the ball was ever loose and it seemed to me like 3 lions players just jumped up and started acting like it. The lions were using that as cover to keep the clock running to either limit them to a FG or keep them from scoring all together!

There were a lot of other BS things I felt the lions were doing as well that they kept getting away with that just seemed cheap. The lions are now in competition with the bears for the lame ass cheap shot bastards of the NFCN!

These injuries are really upsetting to me because of the NFL's bullshit scheduling. The Packers have had to travel to this game, get all banged up and then travel home to prepare for the next game. And Dallas is (and has been) already sitting in the easy chairs relaxing for next week. :evil:

In case you haven't noticed, Dallas is never slated to visit Green Bay during the regular season. That's why I don't put much stock in the won/loss records between the two, because most of the more recent games have all been in Texas except for in 1997 when the Pack roasted their asses 45-17....

Why yes I have noticed that as well.
Jerry Jones= Everything that wrong with the NFL today! How this pile to crap is able to pull of this bullshit year after year is beyond me! That asshole hates Green Bay because we are the smallest market in the league and we make as much revenue as they do and its because of Green Bay that he doesnt have more control because we prove you dont have to be a rich prick to win football games.

Yes, i realize I am spouting off without any real facts to back me up. It just upsets me that Cowboys seem to be catered to year after year in these match ups.

[b bulldog]

One thing Koren lacks is great hands. If anyone has followed his career, you'll notice the many drops he has had and returning kicks is much easier. The rotation on a punt is trickey while catching a kick is pretty easy. Blackmon was the guy but he can't stay healthy.