Sunday late games

[Rastak]

Bears Benson seems to have torn up a knee. That's too bad for Benson, hate to see that. Peterson (the inferior version) should do ok. Broncos lead by 7.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I started him in fantasy ball over Ryan Grant. It's likely to be the difference in a win or loss this week. Grant got enough to give me the win already. I need Pittsburgh's defense to be huge to win.

[MJZiggy]

Are there any interesting games going on? Besides Bears/Broncos?

[BallHawk]

Are there any interesting games going on? Besides Bears/Broncos?

Baltimore/San Diego and San Fran/Arizona

Nothing enticing. :roll:

[Rastak]

I started him in fantasy ball over Ryan Grant. It's likely to be the difference in a win or loss this week. Grant got enough to give me the win already. I need Pittsburgh's defense to be huge to win.


I sat the Vikings defense and Sidney Rice (Rice made sense, I am stacked at WR).....and had I played them both I'd be running away in my money league.


Lee Evens didn't do squat for me again.

[Carolina_Packer]

I've got Chargers/Ravens in North Carolina as the CBS late game. 9-7 Chargers and Boller just got stripped backside from Merriman for a lost fumble. It's time for Rivers and Boller to show what they can do.

[Rastak]

Bear Wolfe just had a nice run....he's actually kind of a sleeper.

[Joemailman]

Bears Benson seems to have torn up a knee. That's too bad for Benson, hate to see that. Peterson (the inferior version) should do ok. Broncos lead by 7.

Long term, the Bears are in big trouble offensively. They don't have anyone on their roster who you would look to as a future star at QB, RB, or WR.

[Rastak]

F'ing Hester is amazing.

[Carolina_Packer]

He is amazing at that.

Speaking of amazing. LT just went over 10K for a career (so far).

Wow, watching Ray Lewis cover Antonio Gates...not even fair.

[FritzDontBlitz]

F'ing Hester is amazing.

The Bears are the ones who are amazing. The only hope they have of winning each week is Devin Hester. And turnovers. Lots of turnovers. The have so much confidence in their passing game that they are handing off on 3rd and long. But, if you listen to Bears fans they will say they still have a shot at the playoffs. Mathematically, yes. Realistically?

[Rastak]

F'ing Hester is amazing.

The Bears are the ones who are amazing. The only hope they have of winning each week is Devin Hester. And turnovers. Lots of turnovers. The have so much confidence in their passing game that they are handing off on 3rd and long. But, if you listen to Bears fans they will say they still have a shot at the playoffs. Mathematically, yes. Realistically?


And he seems to deliver every time.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Uh oh.

Bears took too long, Grossman fumbled.

[FritzDontBlitz]

The good news for the Bears is Denver will be deep in their own territory when the get the ball since the idiot ref blew the play dead.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Shanahan is working the challenge flags now. Two challenges out of three plays and he will probably win both and get one more challenge.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Whoops. I guess not. :oops:

[BallHawk]

Cedric Benson is walking around on the sidelines on crutches- his return is questionable.

:roll:

[Rastak]

Hester takes it 88.

Damn he's good.


Adrian Peterson (MN) and Devon Hester are about as explosive and you can get in the NFL.

[FritzDontBlitz]

LMAO

This is too damn funny.

The Broncos 20 Devin Hester 20.

[DannoMac21]

Bears are the luckiest fucking team in the NFL.

[Carolina_Packer]

The AZ/San Fran game looks like it would be good to watch. Too bad I'm watching the Ravens (no NFL Ticket).

[Rastak]

Bears are the luckiest fucking team in the NFL.


How exactly is that lucky? The dude is amazing.

[FritzDontBlitz]

I swear, if the Bears win this game they will spend the next week claiming they are going to the playoffs.

[Carolina_Packer]

Geez, they kicked to Hester again and he had another return for TD in the 3rd Q. What a stud. Makes me wish he was a Packer. I remember him coming out they wondered what he might be in the NFL, but he's really found his niche.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Oh HELL NO

[DannoMac21]

CUTLERRRRRRRR

[Rastak]

Go Broncos!

[FritzDontBlitz]

KICK IT BACK TO HESTER THIS SHIT IS HILARIOUS

[Lurker64]

I wonder if they'll kick it to Hester again...

[Carolina_Packer]

Hester takes it 88.

Damn he's good.


Adrian Peterson (MN) and Devon Hester are about as explosive and you can get in the NFL.

We gotta get us one of those! :lol:

[FritzDontBlitz]

I wonder if they'll kick it to Hester again...

God I hope so. This is unbelievable. I suggest Grossman kneel down 3 times and punt it back to Denver.

[Carolina_Packer]

Tell me if they kick to Hester.

[Rastak]

Nice, squib kick and the Bears get the ball at the 50. WTF?

[Lurker64]

The Broncos should just kick it out of bounds if they can't kick it out of the back of the endzone.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Man, I would be so fuckin' insulted if I was on the Bears offense. You suck so bad other teams will spot you the ball at midfield because your kickoff returner scores more than your entire offense.

[Rastak]

Man, I would be so fuckin' insulted if I was on the Bears offense. You suck so bad other teams will spot you the ball at midfield because your kickoff returner scores more than your entire offense.


I disagree. I'd be fired up that my kick team allows my offense that kind of field position because they are so afraid the KR will take it to the house every damn time.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Add insult to injury: you commit a personal foul on an incomplete on 3rd down and 9.... and the Broncos almost accepted it.

[Carolina_Packer]

Stupid Broncos. If they were going to just give them field position, just have Elam kick it out of bounds. It would have been on the 40.

[FritzDontBlitz]

OMG.

Adam Archuleta raped Scheffler on that pass and he still caught it.

[Rastak]

OMG.

Adam Archuleta raped Scheffler on that pass and he still caught it.


Looks like the Bears are sinking...... :)

[Pacopete4]

if it werent for the pack, cowboys, hester and peterson.. no one would watch the nfc teams play cuz they are freakin brutal..

[FritzDontBlitz]

OMG.

Adam Archuleta raped Scheffler on that pass and he still caught it.


Looks like the Bears are sinking...... :)

Sheffler just embarrassed the Bears again. And after the unsportsmanlike the Broncos should be able to pin the Bears deep by kicking it out of the endzone.

[Rastak]

if it werent for the pack, cowboys, hester and peterson.. no one would watch the nfc teams play cuz they are freakin brutal..


QFT

[Pacopete4]

whats "QFT"?

[Rastak]

whats "QFT"?


Quoted for truth. You nailed it.

[Lurker64]

if it werent for the pack, cowboys, hester and peterson.. no one would watch the nfc teams play cuz they are freakin brutal..

At the same time, I wonder if anybody is going to make a serious attempt to win the AFC West this year

This season is marked by mediocrity all over the league, with one elite team (the Patriots) and a few good teams (GB, Dallas, Indy, Jacksonville, Pittsburgh, Cleveland). Other than that, it's a bunch of near .500 teams beating up on each other and a few near .500 teams having better records than that since they get to beat up on awful teams.

[Lurker64]

Anderson pasting Hall was kind of funny...

[Pacopete4]

the bears special teams is just sick nasty wow

[Rastak]

Nice block by the Bears....they aren't rolling over yet.

[Rastak]

Why do they call it a Rugby scrum. It was a Rugby Maul like Minnesota had last week.


Maul not Scrum you dumbasses.....Tar will back me up.

[Pacopete4]

because most of these announcers probably have never seen, nor watched a game of rugby

[Rastak]

because most of these announcers probably have never seen, nor watched a game of rugby


Then why reference it?

[Pacopete4]

haha you got me.. do any of these announcers really ever make any sense? they try to be cute and knowledgebal about the game and it really never seems to work out.. at least this is a ball game now

[Lurker64]

Why do they call it a Rugby scrum. It was a Rugby Maul like Minnesota had last week.

For those of us who know very little about Rugby, what's the difference?

[Lurker64]

At last, a successful Broncos punt!

[FritzDontBlitz]

LMAO at Grossman warming up on the sidelines.

[Pacopete4]

they should warm up Kyle Orton.. give him a shot

[FritzDontBlitz]

Here we go: Devin Hester left, Devin Hester right.

God the Bears are awful. How Did the Pack lose to them again? LOL

[FritzDontBlitz]

Uh oh. Cheap penalty,

Jeez, you gotta be kidding me. Touch fouls in the NFL.

[falco]

man i wish we still had kenny peterson.

[Pacopete4]

im pretty happy with our D line play ha

[Rastak]

man i wish we still had kenny peterson.


:lol:

[DannoMac21]

C'mon Arizona!!!

[Pacopete4]

when will grossman mess up

[Pacopete4]

man.. the bears playcalling and play type are freakin awful.. i hope they keep this o coordinator forever

[Rastak]

C'mon Arizona!!!


Go 9ers!

[Pacopete4]

knee was down.. its a catch

[Rastak]

Holy shit....nice catch.

[Pacopete4]

in rainy weather.. that was amazing

[BallHawk]

He caught it.

What a catch.

[BallHawk]

And the Bears are getting ready to do the Super Bowl Shuffle.

[Rastak]

And the Bears are getting ready to do the Super Bowl Shuffle.


Not quite but a helluva comeback.

[Lurker64]

How ironic would it be if the Broncos return the kick for a TD?

[FritzDontBlitz]

Great play.

Does this kinda remind anybody of the GB/Denver game in reverse? The Bears just busted their asses just to get the game to overtime....

[BallHawk]

Wow.

Neil Rackers misses a 32 yard field goal to win it in OT.

[Lurker64]

Awww... I was hoping Elam would have a chance at a 70 yard FG to win it...

[Bretsky]

Wow.

Neil Rackers misses a 32 yard field goal to win it in OT.


He'd have kept Esoxx in the survival pool

Heck, now we might as well have San Fran win this game :lol:

[BallHawk]

Awww... I was hoping Elam would have a chance at a 70 yard FG to win it...

Blame Javon Walker.

[BallHawk]

Haha.

Well you sure as hell don't give them a short field.

So you either stop Hester or kick it out of the end zone.

[Rastak]

Wow.

Neil Rackers misses a 32 yard field goal to win it in OT.


That is WOW. Now that the Vikings are in the Wildcard hunt I say go 9ers.

[Lurker64]

I'd like to see a tie in the NFC West showdown. Not only have we not had one of those in a while, but it makes the playoff scenarios a lot more complicated.

[BallHawk]

Best case scenario happened for the Broncos on that kickoff.

[FritzDontBlitz]

OK, let's see if the Bears can get into FG range. Robby Gould is money.

[Bretsky]

Dammit

[Rastak]

Nice pass by Grossman.

Peterson drags the pile......looks like the Bears might get this one.

[BallHawk]

Kurt Warner is sacked in the endzone, fumbles, and San Fran recovers for the GW TD.

WOW!

[FritzDontBlitz]

LOL

5-6 Bears. Robby Gould doesnt miss.....

[Bretsky]

SAN FRAN JUST BEAT THE CARDS !!

[Rastak]

LOL

5-6 Bears. Robby Gould doesnt miss.....


? Your point?

[BallHawk]

Here's hoping Robbie pulls a Rackers.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Hmmmmm. I think these refs are from the midwest.

[BallHawk]

Does Shanahan decide to pull a Shanahan on the FG?

[Rastak]

Hmmmmm. I think these refs are from the midwest.


?

[Pacopete4]

man.. i hope they miss this kick, not only cuz i hate the bears.. but thats just horrible coaching..

[FritzDontBlitz]

Barring a fluke, Gould nails this kick.

[Rastak]

Bears win.


Booooooo

[BallHawk]

Damnit.

[Lurker64]

At the same time, all of us (except Ras) are cheering for a Wisconsin team wearing Green and Gold and we don't really care who wins and loses at this point, since we control our destiny. Three more wins and we get a bye, no matter what anybody else does.

[FritzDontBlitz]

LOL

5-6 Bears. Robby Gould doesnt miss.....


? Your point?

The Bears were 4-6 entering the game.

[Rastak]

LOL

5-6 Bears. Robby Gould doesnt miss.....


? Your point?

The Bears were 4-6 entering the game.


DOH!


Sorta obvious after I read it again.

[Pacopete4]

the bad thing for the bears and vikings is that they will have to move ahead of the lions by 1 game at least because they will probably hold the tie breakers over both

[FritzDontBlitz]

Congrats to the Bears for clawing their way back into the wild card race. They now join the other 5-6 teams fighting to unseat the Lions (6-5) and the Giants (7-4) for one of the two available wild cards.

[Rastak]

At the same time, all of us (except Ras) are cheering for a Wisconsin team wearing Green and Gold and we don't really care who wins and loses at this point, since we control our destiny. Three more wins and we get a bye, no matter what anybody else does.


No question Lurker. Rastak cares because it's critical for his squad. Pack fans could hardly care less what happens in the rear view mirror.

[BallHawk]

At the same time, all of us (except Ras) are cheering for a Wisconsin team wearing Green and Gold and we don't really care who wins and loses at this point, since we control our destiny. Three more wins and we get a bye, no matter what anybody else does.

Still, the Bears aren't a team that I would "potentially" want to see in the playoffs.

[Pacopete4]

haha.. if the pack are as good as they are playin right now... they wont lose to one of these teams because thats just not what good teams do..

[b bulldog]

I'm happy all the teams playing today in the north won. I'd hate to see more top 10 talent go to Minnesota to play with AP and hopefully the Bears won't be picking very close to the top neither. Hester is the toatl ST's weapon.

[BEARMAN]

At the same time, all of us (except Ras) are cheering for a Wisconsin team wearing Green and Gold and we don't really care who wins and loses at this point, since we control our destiny. Three more wins and we get a bye, no matter what anybody else does.

Still, the Bears aren't a team that I would "potentially" want to see in the playoffs.

Smart cheesehead, ... Da BEARS are down, but to count them out is not a smart thing to do ! There is still alot of football to be played, and alot of fight left in Da BEARS ! :twisted:

[Rastak]

At the same time, all of us (except Ras) are cheering for a Wisconsin team wearing Green and Gold and we don't really care who wins and loses at this point, since we control our destiny. Three more wins and we get a bye, no matter what anybody else does.

Still, the Bears aren't a team that I would "potentially" want to see in the playoffs.

Smart cheesehead, ... Da BEARS are down, but to count them out is not a smart thing to do ! There is still alot of football to be played, and alot of fight left in Da BEARS ! :twisted:


Bearman is back from the dead!

Nice game by the way.

[Carolina_Packer]

At the same time, all of us (except Ras) are cheering for a Wisconsin team wearing Green and Gold and we don't really care who wins and loses at this point, since we control our destiny. Three more wins and we get a bye, no matter what anybody else does.

Still, the Bears aren't a team that I would "potentially" want to see in the playoffs.

Smart cheesehead, ... Da BEARS are down, but to count them out is not a smart thing to do ! There is still alot of football to be played, and alot of fight left in Da BEARS ! :twisted:

It was a good win for the Bears, although, what was Denver thinking giving up two return TD's to Hester? Denver is a fraud, even though they won a couple of games to climb back in it after getting stomped by the Lions. I think the teams they beat were on the downswing (the Chiefs and the Titans). This could be the win that starts something for Chicago, or they could go back to sucking next week. We'll see.

[Iron Mike]

if it werent for the pack, cowboys, hester and purple jesus.. no one would watch the nfc teams play cuz they are freakin brutal..

edited. 8-)

[BEARMAN]

At the same time, all of us (except Ras) are cheering for a Wisconsin team wearing Green and Gold and we don't really care who wins and loses at this point, since we control our destiny. Three more wins and we get a bye, no matter what anybody else does.

Still, the Bears aren't a team that I would "potentially" want to see in the playoffs.

Smart cheesehead, ... Da BEARS are down, but to count them out is not a smart thing to do ! There is still alot of football to be played, and alot of fight left in Da BEARS ! :twisted:


Bearman is back from the dead!

No, it is just a figment of your imagination, ... you're not realy here either, none of this is real, you and all this will disapeare as sson as I wake up ! :twisted:

Nice game by the way. TY ! 8-)

[Bretsky]

A Patriot loss would be great; force them to play those veteran starters the whole year. Makes them more apt to wear down or get hurt

[Iron Mike]

Bearman is back from the dead!



http://www.kiesler.at/images/photoalbum/19/Bearman_tn.jpg

[Iron Mike]

Bearmanpig is back from the dead!



http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s200/rev711/ManBearPig_Sketch.jpg

edited. 8-)

[cpk1994]

At the same time, all of us (except Ras) are cheering for a Wisconsin team wearing Green and Gold and we don't really care who wins and loses at this point, since we control our destiny. Three more wins and we get a bye, no matter what anybody else does.

Still, the Bears aren't a team that I would "potentially" want to see in the playoffs.

Smart cheesehead, ... Da BEARS are down, but to count them out is not a smart thing to do ! There is still alot of football to be played, and alot of fight left in Da BEARS ! :twisted:

It was a good win for the Bears, although, what was Denver thinking giving up two return TD's to Hester? Denver is a fraud, even though they won a couple of games to climb back in it after getting stomped by the Lions. I think the teams they beat were on the downswing (the Chiefs and the Titans). This could be the win that starts something for Chicago, or they could go back to sucking next week. We'll see.Go back to sucking? Their offense still sucks and always has. Shanahan gift wrapped that game for the Bears with his stupidity. Shanahan should be fired for gross incompetence in that game. He should take Sauerbrun with him.l

[HarveyWallbangers]

Shanahan should be fired for gross incompetence in that game. He should take Sauerbrun with him.l

Kind of amusing since many people ripped McCarthy for not kicking to Hester. Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Either way you have to make plays. Hester did fumble one return to setup a Denver TD.

[FritzDontBlitz]

At the same time, all of us (except Ras) are cheering for a Wisconsin team wearing Green and Gold and we don't really care who wins and loses at this point, since we control our destiny. Three more wins and we get a bye, no matter what anybody else does.

Still, the Bears aren't a team that I would "potentially" want to see in the playoffs.

Smart cheesehead, ... Da BEARS are down, but to count them out is not a smart thing to do ! There is still alot of football to be played, and alot of fight left in Da BEARS ! :twisted:


Bearman is back from the dead!

No, it is just a figment of your imagination, ... you're not realy here either, none of this is real, you and all this will disapeare as sson as I wake up ! :twisted:

Nice game by the way. TY ! 8-)

Yeah he's back. Until the Bears lose again next week and everybody bails on them again.....

[BEARMAN]

I NEVERbail on Da BEARS ! Unlike the fareweather fans of the pack ! :twisted:

I was a BEARS fan yesterday, I am a BEARS fan today and I will be a BEARS fan tomarrow !,and the next day after that, and the next day after that, and so on and so on.... 8-)

[RashanGary]

Yeah, and we were all here taking your shit when we were 4-12. Nice of you to stop by after a victory. We havn't seen much of you with all of the losing.

[BEARMAN]

I only reply when someone else talks about my beloved BEARS ! This being your forum, I think it would be uncooth(big word, look it up) of me to just start threads about Da BEARS. 8-)

[oregonpackfan]

Congrats on the Bears win. From what I saw, even Grossman played well. It seemed like a few of his receivers, however, were dropping passes that Grossman had placed well.

The Bears running back(Jones?) appeared to have a serious ankle injury. How bad is it?

[cpk1994]

Shanahan should be fired for gross incompetence in that game. He should take Sauerbrun with him.l

Kind of amusing since many people ripped McCarthy for not kicking to Hester. Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Either way you have to make plays. Hester did fumble one return to setup a Denver TD.

I was fine with how M3 hhandled it. But to continue to kick to Hester after he scorched them once? And on top of that Sauerbrun rolls right into the pressure trying to kick another? How dumb can the Broncos get?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Congrats on the Bears win. From what I saw, even Grossman played well. It seemed like a few of his receivers, however, were dropping passes that Grossman had placed well.

The Bears running back(Jones?) appeared to have a serious ankle injury. How bad is it?

Cedric Benson. They let their better RB (Jones) go to the Jets.

[FritzDontBlitz]

I only reply when someone else talks about my beloved BEARS ! This being your forum, I think it would be uncooth(big word, look it up) of me to just start threads about Da BEARS. 8-)

And yet you sit around trolling in order to find a thread with the word "Bears" in it? LOL

I think not. But, enjoy the win. Just dont let the fairweather Chicago media convince you guys that they have a shot. They still need serious work done to that offensive line.

It was a hilarious game to watch, I will say that much. Berrian's catch was superb. Usually the refs screw up calls like that, be glad they got it right for a change.

[Joemailman]

It will be a wild race for the last wild-card. Lions are 6-5 and have a tough schedule. Behind them are 6 teams at 5-6.

[the_idle_threat]

Why do they call it a Rugby scrum. It was a Rugby Maul like Minnesota had last week.

For those of us who know very little about Rugby, what's the difference?

Well, since you asked ...

A maul in rugby is much like a play in football where the ball carrier is stopped by the defense while still standing, and his teammates are pushing "the pile" forward against the defenders, who are pushing the pile the other way. It can be a way of walking the ball down the field in a mass of bodies, like we occasionally see in football.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p53/the_idle_threat/azmaul.jpg

In a rugby maul, the ball carrier wants to hand the ball backward to teammates, who can either advance the ball forward around the end, or lateral it out.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p53/the_idle_threat/maul2.jpg

In rugby---just like in football---the maul (or "pile," in football parlance) usually collapses into a literal pile of bodies. In football, of course, the play is dead. In rugby, the teams keep playing, forming a "ruck" to get the ball out. Sometimes the ball is really buried, however, and can't be "rucked" out. That's one situation where they have a scrum.

A scrum looks a lot like a maul to those who don't know better---it's a bunch of guys on one side pushing against a bunch of guys on the other side.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p53/the_idle_threat/2001Fresno-scrum-Img_0172.jpg

But a crucial difference is that nobody is holding the ball in the middle. In the pic above, you can see the ball on the ground in the middle of the scrum.

In a scrum, the opposing "packs" get set up first, like linemen before a snap in football.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p53/the_idle_threat/scrum1.jpg

Then they engage the scrum (like in the first scrum pic above), and the ball is rolled into the scrum between the two teams from the side. While the ball is on the ground, players can only touch it with their feet. They push forward against the other team while pushing the ball backwards with their feet, so that the ball emerges out the back of the scrum. The last man at the back of the scrum (the 8-man) or a teammate behind the scrum (the scrum-half) can pick up the ball and either run with it or lateral to a teammate.

So in essence, the scrum is in some ways like a jump ball in basketball, where the teams are determining possession of the ball in a prescribed manner, while the maul is the kind of play they frequently call a scrum in football broadcasts.