Sunday Night Football

[Lurker64]

Weird, can the Eagles hang with the Patriots? Excepting an early interception, Philadelpha has drove down the field and scored TDs on the Pats defense on two straight possessions. The deep ball has been there and Feely is delivering.

Given that Vegas set the line at 24 or something, the Iggles are a lot more competitive than virtually anybody thought, at least through a quarter and a bit.

[Lurker64]

Onside kick in the second quarter. The Eagles are playing to win. Good luck to them.

[RashanGary]

Brady got absolutely rocked on that 1st quarter sack. The Eagles are playing pretty well, but you can't help but think they are just delaying the inevitable.

[gbpackfan]

Yeah, they are hanging on early but that's all they are doing, hanging on. The Patriots will blow this thing open at one point.

[esoxx]

New England's defense isn't All-World.

The problem is their offense. It's incredibly good.

Teams can score on the Pats, but no one has really found a way to slow them down, much less stop them.

[Tony Oday]

I hate the Pats! Cheating bastards go every other team in the NFL!

[RashanGary]

It's amazing to me how joe nobody can step into that offense and play better than McNabb. Is McNabb that overrated?

[b bulldog]

The Pats D looks old and slow tonight. They would have problems with our 5 WR set

[packers11]

I think 90% of the world is rooting for the Eagles...

LETS GO FEELEY!!!

[GBRulz]

It's amazing to me how joe nobody can step into that offense and play better than McNabb. Is McNabb that overrated?

Yes, five years from now we'll remember him as the guy who did the Chunky Soup Commercials with his Mom...not as the Eagles QB :lol:

[packers11]

WOAH BIG FIRST DOWN!!! LETS GO EAGLESSS!!!

[b bulldog]

We have a game tonight people

[RashanGary]

The Pats D looks old and slow tonight. They would have problems with our 5 WR set

I was thinking the same thing.

If the Packers have a special, healthy run, I think they would have a shot at taking down goliath. One injury to Moss, and that team is very beatable.

[packers11]

TD!!!

[b bulldog]

Fealey is looking very comfortable tonight throwing the ball. Reid has drawn up one hell of a game plan.

[Lurker64]

I like how the Eagles are going for the throat, they've clearly gameplanned specifically to beat New England, as opposed to a lot of teams which appeared to just want to beat the Pats by doing what they do. It is important to not that despite the Pats gaudy 10-0 record, six of their wins have come over Washington, Cincinnati, Buffalo Twice, the Jets, and Miami all of whom are under .500.

The Pats have played a lot of bad teams this year, if the Eagles can't pull this one off, hopefully they're giving a blueprint to the remaining good teams that are going to play the Pats this year.

[b bulldog]

Who in the NFL hasn't. They did play the Colts and the Cowboys.

[RashanGary]

If Moss goes down, I like Chuck and Al's chances on Stallworth and Welker. They said in Oakland that Moss's knees were running out of tread. I think the Packers could pressure Brady, stop the run and score on this team.

The Pats are hard to stop with Moss. Watch. He'll make a great play before this game is done that will change the complection, but if he somehow goes down, the Pats are just another really good team. Not the juggernaut that they have been with MOss.

[Lurker64]

Who in the NFL hasn't. They did play the Colts and the Cowboys.

Which is more good games than most teams have played to be fair, but most teams would have better records if they played in the AFC East and didn't have to play New England.

[RashanGary]

That's the hardest hit I"ve ever seen Moss take. That was great.

[RashanGary]

That was not a TD. That was bad.

[Lurker64]

Bad call on the TD pass there. Should have reviewed that. Conspiracy theory?

[Lurker64]

The Eagles are going to have to make a few more plays on defense, but if their offense keeps clicking like it is, I like their chances.

At the very least, they'll cover the spread, which I believe is the second largest in history.

[b bulldog]

Sharper would really get some good licks in on Moss.

[RashanGary]

Did you see that hit on Brady? Brady is acctually a pretty tough QB. Every time I watch, he takes one good lick.

Brett falls back so the hits are softer and has eyes on the back of his head. Brady seems to get hit harder. He's younger though. Favre probably plays with a little more self preservation at this point in his career.

[b bulldog]

Every starting QB in the NFL is tough.

[Lurker64]

Every starting QB in the NFL is tough.

Even David Carr, if for no other reason than he keeps getting up, despite being severely rattled by the beatings he's taken in his career.

[Lurker64]

The Eagles have forced the Pats to punt, that's telling. A lot of teams barely manage that by the fourth quarter.

[RashanGary]

The Eagles are a clever, veteran defense. They are confusing the protection and winning the battles.

I wonder how long Philly can keep this up.

[RashanGary]

That was a bad call, but they got a free 7 at the end of the half so it's only right.

[Lurker64]

The Eagles need to start picking off the ball when Brady throws bad ones like that. There's not a lot of room for error against this team.

Though the last three plays are as good of a goal line stand as I've seen against the Pats this year.

[RashanGary]

Come on Iggles. Make a stand here.

[RashanGary]

Well, now it's fair. They got a TD for free, and now they got one robbed. The score is what it should be.

[Lurker64]

Well, now it's fair. They got a TD for free, and now they got one robbed. The score is what it should be.

That's a karmic Offensive Pass Interference on Moss. Count it against the 1,423,151 times he got away with it.

[RashanGary]

Very true. You know what? This team is beatable without Moss. He hasn't had a healhty season in 3 years. I really hope this isn't has magical healhty season.

[Lurker64]

Curtis was extra wide open on that play. I guess the Pats defense is mortal.

[b bulldog]

oUR o WOULD KILL THIS pATS d TONIGHT

[packers11]

EAGLES EAGLES EAGLES!!!

[RashanGary]

Damn, this is turning into a great game.

[Lurker64]

It's going to be hard for the Pats to cover the spread tonight, I wonder how much Vegas is making off this game.

[packers11]

It's going to be hard for the Pats to cover the spread tonight, I wonder how much Vegas is making off this game.

Or losing...

[Lurker64]

It's going to be hard for the Pats to cover the spread tonight, I wonder how much Vegas is making off this game.

Or losing...

You'd think the public groundswell of betters would be "ZOMG Pats are the best team ever, they'll win by 100" since the line kept going up and up and up through the week.

[RashanGary]

McNabb looks more overrated every time a nobody QB steps in and outplays him.

[RashanGary]

Fuck, bad pass. Should have been a TD.

[Carolina_Packer]

Yeah, some of the contested highlight catches Moss has made this year, you can see right before he catches that he separates by pushing off, and it is not called. Every time I yell push off. The one called tonight might not have been as obvious, but if Moss engages the the defender with his hands he should be called.

Eagles are feelin' it! I'm lovin' it! Now someone do a snot knocker on Brady! :!:

[b bulldog]

DRIVER WOULD HAVE 200 YARDS GOING ACROSS THE MIDDLE TONIGHT

[b bulldog]

eVERY GREAT wr IN THE GAME PUSHES OFF EXCEPT FOR dd

[RashanGary]

DRIVER WOULD HAVE 200 YARDS GOING ACROSS THE MIDDLE TONIGHT

This is how they looked against Indy in the playoffs last year. They are just caving.

[Lurker64]

McNabb looks more overrated every time a nobody QB steps in and outplays him.


Hey, Feeley did win the Davey O'Brien Award and he did win 4 of 5 in 2002 when the Eagles were just hoping he wouldn't suck so bad the Eagles missed the playofs, McNabb did take over and lose in the playoffs though.

[Lurker64]

TOUCHDOWN EAGLES!

[RashanGary]

WOW!!

This is a great game.

[OS PA]

Whooooooooie!

Pats beat the league, Eagles beat the Pats, Packers beat the Eagles = Packers best team in the league? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

David is sticking it to Goliath tonight.

[RashanGary]

Man, if we can get healthy for the playoffs and make it through Dallas, I'd love to have a shot at these guys for a SB ring.

[Lurker64]

The Eagles just have to hold serve at this point. Easier said than done, but it's a simple proposition. At least Reid isn't going to start conservative playcalling.

[gbpackfan]

I want to believe, I really do! But Brady has that look in his eye. I see a Patriot TD drive here. God I hope I'm wrong.

On a side note, THE PACKERS COULD BEAT THIS TEAM! If we ever face them, I am NOT impressed with the Patriot D. The O is good, no doubt. But that D can be had!

[b bulldog]

If Childress is still in Minny next year, McNabb will be his QB

[RashanGary]

I loved that shot of the Eagles defense just sitting patiently on the bench. They looked rested as hell. I was acctually laughing an evil laugh like satan. My wife looked at me like I was fucked up.

[RIPackerFan]

All I can see is the trainer from Rocky 4 yelling about the Russian - HE'S NOT A MACHINE - YOU CUT HIM - YOU MADE HIM BLEED"

[RashanGary]

INT for a TD would be nice.

[RashanGary]

My giggle is a hybrid of the Joker from batman and lucifer right now.

[Lurker64]

All I can see is the trainer from Rocky 4 yelling about the Russian - HE'S NOT A MACHINE - YOU CUT HIM - YOU MADE HIM BLEED"

http://images.musicclub.it/foto/iv/big/Ivan_Drago.tif.big.jpg

[RashanGary]

Haha, they are out to get NE. I love it.

[Lurker64]

Ouch, bad penalty.

[RashanGary]

NO!!!

How can you do that :no:

[OS PA]

Way to shoot yourself in the foot.

[Pacopete4]

the real quote is...


"You see? You see? He's not a machine, he's a man, he's a man."

in case u wanted to know

[RashanGary]

The only thing that makes that better is an interception or a 3 and out that also includes a bone crushing hit on Brady or Moss.

[gbpackfan]

What the hell! Watch the ball you fat moron!

[jconnor99]

Have you noticed that everything Madden says about how the eagles are beating the Patriots is exactly what the Packers do best. Physical corners, quick slants, a quaterback that can get rid of the ball quickly. If the Pack play the Patriots we would match up very well to them.

[Lurker64]

the real quote is...


"You see? You see? He's not a machine, he's a man, he's a man."

in case u wanted to know

Actually, the full line is

"He's worried! You cut him! You hurt him! You see? You see? He's not a machine, he's a man! "

But what you quoted appears earlier in the movie.

http://posters.imdb.com/character/ch0002261/quotes

[RashanGary]

If we had a magical healthy run and our dline was 100%, I could see us scoring more points than they do.

They do have a good ST's. So do we.

They have a better offense than theirs, but if healthy we mgiht have a better defense. We'd be the underdog, but I'd love to see the Packers get a shot at that team.

[RIPackerFan]

I actually thought GB would match up pretty well.

However, I don't know if we would be as effective getting to Brady with the blitz - that is Phillys bread and butter - and we don't do it that much. It tough to go from 0 to 60 in a single game.

Though I think our Offense would be able to handle its own against the Pats D.

Pacopete4 - thanks for the right quote - I knew it was something like that.

[RashanGary]

Have you noticed that everything Madden says about how the eagles are beating the Patriots is exactly what the Packers do best. Physical corners, quick slants, a quaterback that can get rid of the ball quickly. If the Pack play the Patriots we would match up very well to them.

that's what bulldog and others are seeing here too. Our team would slaughter them if they play like that.

[RashanGary]

Bad pass by Brady. YOu don't see many of those.

Come on Iggles. Big stand here.

[Lurker64]

A stop here would be huge.

[Pacopete4]

we would score everytime we touch the ball if they ran this same defense they are running vs the eagles... i think our D is just a tad better than the eagles too

[RashanGary]

Wow, good job. Score here and the Eagles really have a good chance to win this game.

[Lurker64]

Go for the throat Eagles! Score a Touchdown on this drive.

[b bulldog]

PHILLY NEEDS 7 NOW TO REALLY TURN UP THE HEAT

[RIPackerFan]

Get pressure on Brady and his timing gets off easily.

He's had all day when playing other teams - this is the first team getting consistent pressure.

[packers11]

LETS GO EAGGGLESSS!!! SCORE HERE!!!

[b bulldog]

The lack of a running game is killing the Pats right now.

[b bulldog]

All the Pats are walking aroung like zombies

[RashanGary]

That was worth the shitty 4th down play. Listen to them jack up the music. Dirty pricks.

[Iron Mike]

"He's worried! You cut him! You hurt him! You see? You see? He's not a machine, he's a man! "



http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/Rocky/Mick.jpg

[GrnBay007]

GO PATS!!!!!









:twisted: just kidding.

[RIPackerFan]

The corners are doing pretty well getting physical with Moss to break up his timing.

[RashanGary]

Holy shit, Westbrook just speared HObbs in the knee. Good job playing physical.

[RashanGary]

Shit. . .

They needed to take more time off the clock at the very least.

[Lurker64]

That was the wrong receiver on that 3rd and 8. A (non-Eli) Manning or a Favre would carve up the Indy secondary tonight.

[b bulldog]

The Pats D is playing slow tonight. Their S's are not very good when they have to defend guys when the game is close.

[OS PA]

That was the wrong receiver on that 3rd and 8. A (non-Eli) Manning or a Favre would carve up the Indy secondary tonight.

I refreshed and saw that you edited the (non-Eli) part, but you still missed a major typo! I think our Big 5 could do some huge damage to the Pats.

[Bretsky]

Be great if NE loss; don't want anybody rested late season and injuries more apt to happen then too

[Lurker64]

Shit. . .

They needed to take more time off the clock at the very least.

The Eagles can't play to kill the clock here, they need to play to score touchdowns.

[b bulldog]

Exactly, they need to be more aggressive now than ever.

[RashanGary]

Good point, Lurker. Now is not the time to tighen up. Bellichik is the master of playing on fear.

[Lurker64]

I think the defense was onto that one.

[RashanGary]

Damn, nice hit on Faulk. The Eagles should have gas left. They've been on the bench for much of the game..

[RashanGary]

Now it's on the Philly offense to score. For some reason I don't have confidence in them.

[RIPackerFan]

Eagles have to play agressive - go for it on 4th - regardless of where you are. They need to score.

[b bulldog]

Call me a Wes Welker fan. I like him as a player.

[b bulldog]

The Pats have played sluggish tonight. As was posted, now is the time to pull out all the stops cause they can be had tonight.

[esoxx]

Even if the Iggles lose this game the rest of the league now has a blueprint of how to play the Pats. Have to bring some heat and knock Brady around a bit, get in his grill. Double Moss w/ a man over. Be physical as hell. Give them the underneath stuff and then drill them. Get in their heads a bit and they show they really are human beings.

[GrnBay007]

now is the time to pull out all the stops cause they can be had tonight.

Yep, and who else will get this close....other than the Packers. :P

[RashanGary]

Call me a Wes Welker fan. I like him as a player.

Reminds me a little of Driver. Driver is harder to bring down and a little more explosive with the ball. I'd take Driver in a heart beat, but Welker is a damn nice WR.

He'd probably be our #3 (but Jones and Robinson are probalby close).

[RashanGary]

Feely has a swagger to him. He's confident. YOu never know, they might score here.

[RIPackerFan]

They should of run a draw there.

[RashanGary]

Is it just me or is Seymore less of a player than he has been in past years??

[Carolina_Packer]

Feeley is en fuego tonight. He's not intimidated. Also, it's not just the Brian Westbrook show and little or no WR play. Nice game plan.

[Lurker64]

Don't go out of bounds you fool!

[RashanGary]

Holy shit. . . Play loose guys.

[RashanGary]

You can see Feely has a confidence to him. He looks focused, in the zone.

[Lurker64]

Ouch.

[Carolina_Packer]

Double ouch! Why do that?

[RashanGary]

Win or lose, Philly played a great game.

[OS PA]

Wtg.

[Carolina_Packer]

Gosh darn it! The Eagles had them on the ropes.

[Lurker64]

If the Eagles can get a stop here, they're in good shape. Bring the house.

[Lurker64]

That's likely the game, darn.

[Carolina_Packer]

Game over!

[RashanGary]

Damn, even if the Pats go undefeated in the regular season, I still think they are beatable. I'd esspecially love the chacne to play them if Moss was down.

[BF4MVP]

Damnit..They escaped again..Just like the Colts game..But they're definitely beatable.

[MJZiggy]

Sorry guys, you said the Iggles were winning so I went down to see and the Pats immediately came on. I've turned it off now, so the Iggles can go ahead and take the lead back and finish them off.

[Lurker64]

Still, barring a first down, the Eagles should get the ball with about 30-40 seconds. There's a small amount of hope. Crazy things happen. Remember, they need a field goal to tie.

[RashanGary]

WEstbrook should return this punt.

[Carolina_Packer]

Yeah, Feely could throw one up again.

[RIPackerFan]

Looks like Westbrook will be returning.

[RashanGary]

They'll kick it out of bounce. It only takes a FG though and if this goes OT, I think the eagles have a good shot with the way the Pats can't get pressure.

[Lurker64]

Should have fair caught that.

[Carolina_Packer]

WEstbrook should return this punt.

Wow, not that great, almost coughed it up.

[GrnBay007]

Well.....good try Philly.

[RIPackerFan]

Well, the positives is that all the things that the Pats don't do well against, the Packers do well against.

I don't see how they defend against our 5 receivers.

[Carolina_Packer]

Damn! If they had stayed with what was working on the drive before last and not tried for the kill shot, they might have marched it down on them and scored with little time left, or gone for the tie. DUMB!

Reminds me a little of last week's game at Dallas where the Skins were able to hang with and almost have a good chance of beating the 'Boys, but couldn't seal the deal. They just needed a little better QB play, although what they got from Jason Campbell the other parts of the game was good. Same with Feely tonight.

[RashanGary]

The Patriots would have trouble against Pittsburgh too. Pittsburgh brings exotic, relentless blitzes and has WR's who can work the middle.

[Carolina_Packer]

Why the hell did Miami trade Welker? Geez!

[b bulldog]

One thing to think of is that when they play the Steelers, I think the Pats will be much more ready to play. I think they wee looking past Philly as everyone thought this would be a 35-40 point game. They are human.

[pbmax]

Don't know about Pittsburgh Justin, their O Line play is brutal this year. And the Pats usually will kill a one player attack.

That said, the pass first second and last Eagles just about had their number before a brutal throw into the teeth of Samuel's coverage.

I think the Eagles and Colts have shown that it is wisest to worry about Moss first, then pressure Brady, then then TE, Welker, Maroney and Stallworth.

This game notwithstanding, I think there is a good chance the AFC, NFC gap is closing fast at the top too.

[RashanGary]

One thing to think of is that when they play the Steelers, I think the Pats will be much more ready to play. I think they wee looking past Philly as everyone thought this would be a 35-40 point game. They are human.

True. Moss gives them a lot of predictable looks. It's hard to stop them when they can just toss it up to Moss. They have to use two guys on him, so Brady knows what he has on the other side. It's the same thing we saw every year in Minny. Culpepper looked like one of the greatest QB's to every play the game for a couple years.

If Moss has a healthy season and a healthy playoffs, they are going to be hard to stop. If Moss has his usual injury, I don't think they are the favorites.

[packers11]

I would do Harris on Moss... Charles on Welker... Then our #3 on Stallworth...

[HarveyWallbangers]

I don't think the Patriots looked past Philly. Philly is a dangerous team, and they were playing in the spotlight game of the week--on Sunday Night football. Defensively, you have to press the WRs, give help on Moss, hope you have a decent slot corner to cover Welker, and hope for some breaks. I'd double Moss, put Woodson on Welker, and take my chances with Stallworth. There are chinks in New England's defense. Their LBs are aging. Philly took advantage of this by relentlessly throwing in the middle of the field. It's a copycat league.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I would do Harris on Moss... Charles on Welker... Then our #3 on Stallworth...

Just saw this. That's what I'm thinking also. Harris and help on Moss. If nothing else, use Al to wear down Moss a bit.

[Joemailman]

Why the hell did Miami trade Welker? Geez!

Because they have Marty Booker. :lol:

[b bulldog]

They lloked past Philly imo like every fan did in regards to this game. The D is old , LB's in particular.

[The Leaper]

I think New England's old LBs are going to pose problems for them in the postseason. They cannot cover anyone in the middle of the field, and they aren't fast enough anymore to get after the QB when the offense has a good pass blocking scheme.

With all the pressure to be 19-0, the Patriots are going to have a hard road in the playoffs I think.

[mmmdk]

I think New England's old LBs are going to pose problems for them in the postseason. They cannot cover anyone in the middle of the field, and they aren't fast enough anymore to get after the QB when the offense has a good pass blocking scheme.

With all the pressure to be 19-0, the Patriots are going to have a hard road in the playoffs I think.

I agree but it's the Pats offense that really scares everybody. The Philly OL is huge & awesome in both protection and run blocking. OL, DL, cover corners & a power/speed combo offense is what the doctor ordered vs Pats.

Bottom line is that Pats won 31-28 over Philly on a night where Pats were crowned division champs just prior to the game. They got (more) cocky in their lockerroom; I expect Pats to continue to derive the NFL code and crush Baltimore on monday night next week.

Philly did open a door that Pats could be upset though; I just don't see anyone upsetting Pats in a SB on turf in Arizona. But in a cold january game at Gillette stadium; now that's a plausible scenario.

Pats must not preveil - NEVER!

[The Leaper]

I agree but it's the Pats offense that really scares everybody.

I think the Packer offense when stretched out 4 and 5 wide is just as scary...and I think Green Bay's defense is better equipped to slow down New England's offense a couple times than New England's defense is to slow down ours. We have fast LBs and a deeper DL (if they get healthy).

The Pats are not unbeatable. The NFL right now is just a piss poor league overall. There are 5 or 6 strong teams in the league...and then there is a whole lotta mediocrity. Hell, Green Bay should be 11-0 right now. NONE of us saw that coming. It speaks to how bad the league really is right now. Having a franchise QB is basically a guarantee for 12 wins right now as long as you have a solid coaching staff and a roster full of guys with a good work ethic and character. The QB play around the league is maddenly inconsistent these days.

[mmmdk]

I agree but it's the Pats offense that really scares everybody.

I think the Packer offense when stretched out 4 and 5 wide is just as scary...and I think Green Bay's defense is better equipped to slow down New England's offense a couple times than New England's defense is to slow down ours. We have fast LBs and a deeper DL (if they get healthy).

The Pats are not unbeatable. The NFL right now is just a piss poor league overall. There are 5 or 6 strong teams in the league...and then there is a whole lotta mediocrity. Hell, Green Bay should be 11-0 right now. NONE of us saw that coming. It speaks to how bad the league really is right now. Having a franchise QB is basically a guarantee for 12 wins right now as long as you have a solid coaching staff and a roster full of guys with a good work ethic and character. The QB play around the league is maddenly inconsistent these days.

I pretty much agree; Packers O is for real yet Pats O doesn't even turn over the rock - that can't go on forever and hopefully the turnovers come during playoffs in New England. I hope!

About good teams; I count 7 in New England, Dallas, Green Bay, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, San Diego (at least potentially) and Tampa Bay. These teams: Seattle, Chicago, Philly, Washington, Pittsburgh, Cleveland and NY Giants can knock out most of the former on a good day in the playoffs. Maybe even Detroit, or New Orleans!!! I think NFC has caught up with AFC sans Pats; Pats are, sadly, still unreal.

[mmmdk]

Indy and Philly are the only teams to put serious hits on Pats WRs; Pats threw a lot underneath to Welker yet the Moss & the rest pretty much got knocked around...at least a bit.

[FritzDontBlitz]

People tend to forget Philly has a damn good defense and one of the best defensive coordinators in the NHL in Jim Johnson.

I saw the first pick by Asante Samuel to put the Pats up 7-0. Feeley can't throw the out to save his life. I am guessing the last pick was an out too?

[HarveyWallbangers]

I am guessing the last pick was an out too?

Slant and go. Samuel never bit on the slant. Horrible decision by Feeley. The Patriots were truly in danger of losing that game. Philly could have worn down the clock and at least kicked a FG. This game and the Colts game shows the Colts are not unbeatable. I know they made plays to win the games, but a better performance by Feeley at the end would have given the Eagles the win. He gift wrapped the last interception.

[GoPackGo]

I would do Harris on Moss... Charles on Welker... Then our #3 on Stallworth...

Just saw this. That's what I'm thinking also. Harris and help on Moss. If nothing else, use Al to wear down Moss a bit.

We are going to need a similiar strategy thursday night against the Cowboys too. Harris and help on T.O. .I can't wait for this game.

[Bossman641]

Finally a team played the Pats the way that I have been waiting to see all year long. Team after team has given the Pats WR's free releases off the line. The Eagles pressed them, and the Pats were a completely different team. Brady actually got knocked around a little and you could see the frustration in Moss.

The Eagles didn't win, but they definitely exposed some major chinks in the armor. We certainly don't have the blitz package that Philly does but our corners are the best in the business. The real pain is trying to cover Welker out of the slot. That will be a challenge. NE's linebackers and safeties looked pretty slow last night. Offensively, I don't see how they could stop our Big 5. The Pats are certainly the team to beat, but they are not the unstoppable machine they have been made out to be.

[The Leaper]

The real pain is trying to cover Welker out of the slot.

Not for us. Woodson covers the slot receiver almost exclusively in multiple WR sets, so he would be on Welker quite often.

[b bulldog]

No team is unbeatable but good teams find ways to win when they are playing poorly. All any team has to be is better for one day.

[Iron Mike]

People tend to forget Philly has a damn good defense and one of the best defensive coordinators in the NHL in Jim Johnson.


The NHL has defensive coordinators???? :wink: