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Partial
11-29-2007, 10:48 PM
I thought the coaching today was suspect. Why would you not play man-to-man? Al was getting burned left and right in the zone coverage. Why not let him play to his strengths?

Likewise, what was with the offensive game planning? Why was Favre taking deep shot after deep shot to start the game when the Cowboys had safety help over the top? So many of those passes were going into double coverage. I understand wanting to take a shot to keep them honest, but come on. They should have been running slants and crosses all day against this team.

A-Rod showed me that he can play in this league. He delivered a firm message to GMs around the league that he is ready to start when he took that Elway-esque blow to get the first down. He appears to have a pretty strong and accurate arm as well.

Ryan Grant is a stud. This offense is ridiculous when we're ahead. Just like Dallas'.

Harrell got great penetration on one of the few players Romo was actually hit. I think he took his man to the ground.

Bigby needs to get benched for those retarded penaltys.

Partial
11-29-2007, 10:52 PM
I also thought the officiating was suspect. TO knew Al had the ball or he wouldn't have tackled him. Why was that not Packers ball? The side judge ruled that it was. Bullshit.

The deep pass interference calls are a load of shit. Any team that is winning a game can get an almost guaranteed huge gain by chucking the rock deep. The losing team knows they need to make a play so they play the man and try to break it up. 8/10 passes in this sitaution seem to result in PI.

Freak Out
11-29-2007, 11:00 PM
WTF was up with some of those decisions Favre made? Was it the call? Doubtful....

The non int call early was BS but what are you supposed to do about it? All M3 could do was challenge the catch? Total BS..

We needed to stick with the ball control short pass game and we did not and that cost us.

Tauscher and Clifton had almost no chance on passing downs..Tausch has a bad ankle but both those guys looked like they were in concrete overshoes.

Jason Garett owns Sanders.

The Leaper
11-29-2007, 11:02 PM
WTF was up with some of those decisions Favre made? Was it the call? Doubtful....

They were mostly play action fakes...which had zero chance of working because there was no way that Dallas was going to respect the run. Those were terrible choices by McCarthy...even if Favre compounded it with throws into quaduple coverage.

Hell, Grant had a 60 yard TD run on 3rd and 1 because the Dallas safeties still weren't convinced we were going to run it even in that situation.

ny10804
11-29-2007, 11:06 PM
Collins and Rouse would be a formidable two-some.

Brohm
11-29-2007, 11:07 PM
Collins and Rouse would be a formidable two-some.

I amlooking forward to that safety tandem as well.

Partial
11-29-2007, 11:09 PM
I think Bigby is a fine player but he needs to sit a week and think about those stupid ass penalties. That, and remember to tackle at the knees instead of going for their shoulders.

3irty1
11-29-2007, 11:09 PM
Everything you said Dan is the exact same things I said at the bar.

Losing Woodson hurts but its no reason to stop playing bump and run.

The Leaper
11-29-2007, 11:12 PM
Collins and Rouse would be a formidable two-some.

Why?

Collins is merely average in coverage and can't make a big play whatsoever.

Rouse may have some potential...but I'm not going to hold my breath as long as the worthless turd is coaching the young kids in the secondary.

We need some safeties who can COVER somebody. You can't let people run all over in your defensive backfield uncovered because your safeties only know how to lay wood in run support.

Partial
11-29-2007, 11:14 PM
Everything you said Dan is the exact same things I said at the bar.

Losing Woodson hurts but its no reason to stop playing bump and run.

Great minds :D

Bossman641
11-29-2007, 11:14 PM
BADS

Bush
He played like shit.

I know Tramon had that questionable interference call but I thought he played pretty decent. He also played well last week against Detroit. He has to be moved to the nickelback from here on out.

Colledge
WTF? Just when he seems to be making some strides he lays an egg. What is it with this guy? He has a couple bad games in a row, seems to get called out by the coaching staff, responds with a couple decent games, and then totally falls off again. This has happened with him a few times.

b bulldog
11-29-2007, 11:25 PM
At this point, you can clean house at the S position except for Rouse. I'd keep him, I like his nose for the ball and his size. Collins and Bigby both can be upgraded.

b bulldog
11-29-2007, 11:28 PM
Goods
Ryan Grant,Aaron Rodgers, Pickett,Kampmanand Jennings.

bads
Everyone on D except for Kampy and Pickett. No passrush, no coverage on the TE's, D penalties.
Oline was not real good in the first half protection wise

RashanGary
11-29-2007, 11:29 PM
YOu guys are taking the safety play too far. The pass rush was non existant. If you give a good QB that much time, he'll pick apart a zone. Romo has weapons too.

The didn't play well, but it starts with the pass rush. I want to see the Packers with Williams and KGB back at pass rush specialists and Jolly/Pickett back in to stop the run. They're missing a lot of the versatility and depth on the Dline. It really hurt, esspecially when they have a LT that would have been killed by KGB. Let's see if they that that much time the next itme around and if they don't I'll be the safetys don't look so bad.

The Leaper
11-29-2007, 11:29 PM
Next time we face Dallas, do we just put Bush on Owens man-to-man...and tell him to beat the crap out of him at the LOS while giving him another player in help over the top? Bush is a liability in coverage anyway, but with over the top help he should be able to cover Owens in the first 10 yards. Maybe he can at least succeed in harrassing Owens...and that will let Woodson and Harris shut down the other receivers.

The Leaper
11-29-2007, 11:30 PM
YOu guys are taking the safety play too far. The pass rush was non existant. If you give a good QB that much time, he'll pick apart a zone. Romo has weapons too.

Too many wide open guys running around though. It wasn't just that Romo had time...he had 3 and 4 targets to throw to. Hell, he probably had to use some of that time to figure out which of the multiple open receivers was the best one to throw to.

A few times we did get a decent rush...and there were still guys running uncovered all over the place.

b bulldog
11-29-2007, 11:33 PM
Not at all, Collins consistently allows Wr's to get behind him. Collins is a dumbass S! HE HAS ZERO INSTINCTS AND is not a smart football player. he has done nothing up to this point. Sure he looks good in shorts and he can run but that is all he has. I think he is our worst S

privatepacker
11-29-2007, 11:36 PM
Next time we face Dallas, do we just put Bush on Owens man-to-man...and tell him to beat the crap out of him at the LOS while giving him another player in help over the top? Bush is a liability in coverage anyway, but with over the top help he should be able to cover Owens in the first 10 yards. Maybe he can at least succeed in harrassing Owens...and that will let Woodson and Harris shut down the other receivers.

Driving home tonight listening to the game, the Cowboys announcers said they tried to trade for Bush when Green bay picked him up. Maybe we should have made that trade.

Bossman641
11-29-2007, 11:38 PM
Another bad

Gumbel

God he sucked

"Marion Barber is the heart and soul of the Packers"

"And your score is 37-24" (as it is 27-34)


They might as well pull a drunk fan outta the crowd, that or bring one of those cheerleaders up into the booth, at least she'd be hot (I'm not sure Collinsworth would know what to do with her though, he'd probably be telling her about Romo's dreamy eyes the whole time)

HarveyWallbangers
11-29-2007, 11:38 PM
Gumbel is the worst announcer in the history of mankind.

Partial
11-29-2007, 11:39 PM
He has a really whiny voice.

b bulldog
11-29-2007, 11:40 PM
Witten also had way too many yards after the catch tonight. Our S's and LB's couldn't bring him down.

HarveyWallbangers
11-29-2007, 11:51 PM
In 6 of his previous 11 games, Witten scored a TD.
In 7 of his previous 11 games, Witten had at least 67 receiving yards.

Witten had 66 receiving yards and 0 TDs in this game. We did better than average against Witten. He's good. He wasn't the difference maker, at all.

Harlan Huckleby
11-29-2007, 11:51 PM
Not at all, Collins consistently allows Wr's to get behind him. Collins is a dumbass S! HE HAS ZERO INSTINCTS AND is not a smart football player. he has done nothing up to this point. Sure he looks good in shorts and he can run but that is all he has. I think he is our worst S

Collins is an average player at best. I hope that Rouse can upgrade the position. I wouldn't evaluate Collins too harshly tonight, though, he probably came back a week early due to circumstances.

Tyrone Bigguns
11-29-2007, 11:55 PM
Not at all, Collins consistently allows Wr's to get behind him. Collins is a dumbass S! HE HAS ZERO INSTINCTS AND is not a smart football player. he has done nothing up to this point. Sure he looks good in shorts and he can run but that is all he has. I think he is our worst S

Collins is an average player at best. I hope that Rouse can upgrade the position. I wouldn't evaluate Collins too harshly tonight, though, he probably came back a week early due to circumstances.

Wouldn't be bad to see if he can play CB. They talked about it when he was drafted. Couldn't be any worse than Bush, imho.

b bulldog
11-30-2007, 12:08 AM
My evaluation of Collins is from the first game he played, up till now. He is a liability if an offense decides to go after him.

pack4to84
11-30-2007, 12:12 AM
Hawk had a good game. Barnett did he even play didn't see him do nothing. Not one time do I remember his name being called.

The Leaper
11-30-2007, 08:01 AM
Witten also had way too many yards after the catch tonight. Our S's and LB's couldn't bring him down.

What? Witten hardly had any yards after the catch.

Your Hawk-bashing is pathetic. Hawk played extremely well last night...one of the few bright spots on defense.

Brohm
11-30-2007, 09:56 AM
LB should chuck the TE in his zone and release him to a safety. Problem is we have not had a saftey that can cover worth a damn since Butler. No way can you expect a LB to run with some of the WR type TE's. Let's not even talk about Hawk on TO, hell I was just happy he recognized that coverage was blown and SOMEONE had to cover him.

b bulldog
11-30-2007, 04:07 PM
Rouse needs to be a starter once he is healthy.

Green Bud Packer
11-30-2007, 04:18 PM
Not at all, Collins consistently allows Wr's to get behind him. Collins is a dumbass S! HE HAS ZERO INSTINCTS AND is not a smart football player. he has done nothing up to this point. Sure he looks good in shorts and he can run but that is all he has. I think he is our worst S

Collins is an average player at best. I hope that Rouse can upgrade the position. I wouldn't evaluate Collins too harshly tonight, though, he probably came back a week early due to circumstances.

Wouldn't be bad to see if he can play CB. They talked about it when he was drafted. Couldn't be any worse than Bush, imho.

And they'd have their five best dbs on the field together.

Freak Out
11-30-2007, 05:08 PM
Gumbel is the worst announcer in the history of mankind.

My wife was like...why is the Today show guy calling a football game? :lol:

CaptainKickass
11-30-2007, 06:39 PM
Gumbel is the worst announcer in the history of mankind.

My wife was like...why is the Today show guy calling a football game? :lol:

After GB scored the first field goal, GB kicked off to Dallas. Dallas had a pretty decent run back. And of course the network goes to commercial on change of possession. then Gumbel says:

"When we come back, the Packer offense will have pretty good field position"

Gumbel is a douche.

Scott Campbell
11-30-2007, 06:46 PM
Gumbel is a douche.


That's what Willard Scott used to say.

Freak Out
11-30-2007, 06:46 PM
Gumbel is the worst announcer in the history of mankind.

My wife was like...why is the Today show guy calling a football game? :lol:

After GB scored the first field goal, GB kicked off to Dallas. Dallas had a pretty decent run back. And of course the network goes to commercial on change of possession. then Gumbel says:

"When we come back, the Packer offense will have pretty good field position"

Gumbel is a douche.

Dude was stoned...had to be baked to make that many fuck ups. :smk:

Harlan Huckleby
11-30-2007, 09:52 PM
It was just a shitty production overall. The crowd noise was so loud you couldn't hear the announcers. Poor replays.

I hope the NFL Network dies. It is a greedy power play, the NFL should not be allowed to control all aspects of the market.

Joemailman
11-30-2007, 10:31 PM
Congrats Harlan. You have now beat out Mad for ugliest avatar.

Packers4Ever
11-30-2007, 11:21 PM
Not at all, Collins consistently allows Wr's to get behind him. Collins is a dumbass S! HE HAS ZERO INSTINCTS AND is not a smart football player. he has done nothing up to this point. Sure he looks good in shorts and he can run but that is all he has. I think he is our worst S


I spent some time watching Collins whenever he was in the
vicinity of where the action was. I could never catch him involved in a play or near a WR. He always seemed to come running in at the end of a play.