PDA

View Full Version : Already?



MJZiggy
05-15-2006, 04:52 PM
From SI.com

Strained hamstring sidelines Bush
Posted: Sunday May 14, 2006 6:42PM; Updated: Sunday May 14, 2006 8:24PM


METAIRIE, La. (AP) -- Reggie Bush's strained left hamstring limited his involvement in the New Orleans Saints' rookie mini-camp for the second consecutive day Sunday.

Bush stood on the side and watched as others went through two practices, referring to a list of plays he carried in his hand and riding a stationary bike at times.

The Heisman Trophy winner and second pick in last month's NFL draft felt tightness in the hamstring as he stretched prior to the team's first workout Saturday and worked in just a few drills in the first practice. He said after Saturday's late workout that he hoped to practice Sunday, pending approval of the coaching and medical staffs, which never came.

"I think not just me but collectively the coaches and training staff thought, just give it a rest, get it to 100 percent before you come out here," Bush said. "Obviously I'd love to be on the practice field and practicing, so it's frustrating right now. But it's still early, too."

Bush stayed involved mentally by following the play sheet.

"I was still able to follow along and learn the plays," he said. "It didn't feel worse, but it's just not 100 percent. There's no reason to push it and risk any further injury if it's not 100 percent."

Coach Sean Payton said it was important that Bush learn as much as he can even when he's not participating in drills.

"He needs to get up to speed with what we're doing," Payton said.

Scott Campbell
05-15-2006, 05:06 PM
I'm shocked that these guys even show up before they've signed their contract. Do they get any kind of insurance provided by the league in case they get hurt?

MJZiggy
05-15-2006, 05:19 PM
I had completely forgotten that he had a deal in the works with Texas, not NO. That's a very good question.

hurleyfan
05-15-2006, 05:39 PM
I guess I'm more shocked these world class atheletes hurt hammies in what basically amounts to "run throughs" in these mini camps! Hello, training, stretching, gettting ready for mondo millions? Notice none of these guys get hurt before the combine in Indy, or all their freaking pro days?

Partial
05-15-2006, 05:43 PM
my guess is running to these guys is running a whole lot harder than we run

Scott Campbell
05-15-2006, 06:03 PM
I guess I'm more shocked these world class atheletes hurt hammies in what basically amounts to "run throughs" in these mini camps! Hello, training, stretching, gettting ready for mondo millions? Notice none of these guys get hurt before the combine in Indy, or all their freaking pro days?

The combine and workouts are more like the interview process. Once you get drafted and report to camp I think it's just like reporting to work.

HarveyWallbangers
05-15-2006, 06:12 PM
Saints' top pick Bush wants to avoid holdout
ESPN.com

METAIRIE, La. -- New Orleans Saints rookie running back Reggie Bush says he wants to avoid a contract holdout at all costs.

"I told my agent I want to be in here in camp on time ... whatever it takes, I want to be in camp on time," the No. 2 overall draft pick out of Southern California told USA Today at the team's mini-camp on Saturday. "I think it is important to start off on a good foot and a good note, not only with the team but the city."

Saints general manager Mickey Loomis said negotiations are in the early stages with Bush, the newspaper reported in Monday's editions.

"We're encouraged he feels that way, but we haven't really started talking," Loomis said.

Bush's strained left hamstring limited his involvement in the team's rookie mini-camp for the second consecutive day Sunday.

Bush stood on the side and watched as others went through two practices, referring to a list of plays he carried in his hand and riding a stationary bike at times.

The Heisman Trophy winner and second pick in last month's NFL draft felt tightness in the hamstring as he stretched prior to the team's first workout Saturday and worked in just a few drills in the first practice. He said after Saturday's late workout that he hoped to practice Sunday, pending approval of the coaching and medical staffs, which never came.

"I think not just me but collectively the coaches and training staff thought, just give it a rest, get it to 100 percent before you come out here," Bush said. "Obviously I'd love to be on the practice field and practicing, so it's frustrating right now. But it's still early, too."

Bush stayed involved mentally by following the play sheet.

"I was still able to follow along and learn the plays," he said. "It didn't feel worse, but it's just not 100 percent. There's no reason to push it and risk any further injury if it's not 100 percent."

hurleyfan
05-15-2006, 06:14 PM
I guess I'm more shocked these world class atheletes hurt hammies in what basically amounts to "run throughs" in these mini camps! Hello, training, stretching, gettting ready for mondo millions? Notice none of these guys get hurt before the combine in Indy, or all their freaking pro days?

The combine and workouts are more like the interview process. Once you get drafted and report to camp I think it's just like reporting to work. I agree, but with just "reporting to work", aren't you surprised how many hammies are strained? Just seems strange to me, specially since Bush hasn't actually signed yet.

Scott Campbell
05-15-2006, 06:28 PM
I agree, but with just "reporting to work", aren't you surprised how many hammies are strained? Just seems strange to me, specially since Bush hasn't actually signed yet.


Doesn't seem strange at all to me.

I'd pull a hammy too, until I had my signing bonus safely deposited in the bank.

GoPackGo
05-15-2006, 06:29 PM
my guess is running to these guys is running a whole lot harder than we run

yeah i think if the average guy ran that hard the resulting injury would be worse then a pulled hammy

No Mo Moss
05-15-2006, 06:34 PM
For the most part all of these preseason injuries wouldn't even make th einjury report if it was the regular season.

MadtownPacker
05-15-2006, 07:42 PM
Doesn't seem strange at all to me.

I'd pull a hammy too, until I had my signing bonus safely deposited in the bank.

Thats what I'm talkin bout!! Say you have a ingrown toenail or whatever until you are getting paid.

b bulldog
05-15-2006, 09:25 PM
Ingrown toenail, that would put most baseball players on the DL for two weeks.

HarveyWallbangers
05-16-2006, 01:51 PM
Big Easy's sainted savior
By Charles Robinson, Yahoo! Sports

METAIRIE, La. – Just shy of midnight last Friday, the crackle of optimism kept flowing from New Orleans sports talk radio. Two weeks removed from what one caller termed an act of "divine intervention," Reggie Bush's arrival continued to tingle the spine of a community numb with burden.

Down one of New Orleans' arteries, a handful of newly minted "Bush" jerseys dotted pedestrians rounding the corner near Mother's Restaurant. Near Tchoupitoulas and Canal, a beat-up red Dodge pickup truck had a Saints mini-flag over the passenger window and "No. 5" written in soap on the tailgate. And on WWL 870, callers rarely let consecutive breaths cross their lips without steering a discussion toward the new star running back – whose minicamp debut was only a few hours away.

"I'm excited," said caller Brent, who gave the exclamation point of "Go Saints!" before hanging up.

A few months ago, disgusted fans were shouting a similar suggestion: Go Saints … to San Antonio or Los Angeles or straight to hell, depending on the level of frustration. At the time, the fury was unrelenting as owner Tom Benson flirted with abandoning a Hurricane-flattened New Orleans. But like the flood waters, the rage receded. Left behind were the scars of mistrust and apathy. The damaged relations seemingly needed a miracle – divine intervention, if you will.

It's foolish to suggest Bush is the answer to those prayers. Driving through some of the languishing rebuilding efforts quickly dispels that notion. But he's clearly been a flicker of light, drawing positive attention back to a city that has dropped from national consciousness – despite being mired in an ongoing struggle since Hurricane Katrina.

It's a community strain that even surprised some of the Saints' rookies, who were unaware of the level of disfigurement that remains.

"I never knew it was this bad because they don't talk about Hurricane Katrina and the whole relief program as much as they were," rookie safety Roman Harper said. "I thought everything was a little bit more cleaned up. But really, it's a slow process."

Coping with a shock that clearly hasn't dissipated, New Orleans has focused on rebuilding. On local television, public service announcements consistently plead for more donations. On radio, commercials emphasize the saving of the city's lost history. And in bars and barber shops, wary faces brood over the coming hurricane season and whether the floodgates will betray New Orleans again.

But those same realities seem to pause whenever Bush's name surfaces.

In any other city and with any other franchise, the post-draft buzz would merely be one last adrenaline shot before a league-wide slumber in June and July. But for New Orleans and the Saints, it feels like the sleep – and what can only be characterized as a nightmarish 2005 – has finally ended. And if anyone had dismissed it, they needed only to show up for Saturday's kickoff of minicamp, when a smattering of fans poked their heads between shrubberies or peered under fences just to catch a glimpse of Bush.

"It is a little weird," said Bush, when asked if he could grasp being a beacon of reclamation for both a city and an NFL team. "But it's something that I look forward to doing. I'm looking forward to helping turn this city around and bringing something exciting back to the city. Obviously, I'm aware of all the devastation that took place here in the last year or so."

Bush became acquainted with the damage firsthand, when he toured the Lower Ninth Ward with a limousine driver whose family lived in the area. The Lower Ninth was one of the hardest-hit areas in New Orleans and is facing years of cleanup and renovation.

"Complete destruction," Bush said. "It looked like a war zone. I saw trucks flipped over, houses on top of other houses. All kinds of chaos. I can just envision what happened and what they were going through. For me, it was good to see that. Good to know what ultimately this team is playing for.

"It's pretty devastating. It gave me a sense of what I was playing for. Not just a football team, but a city is looking for us to bring some happiness back."

Bush might have the most complex kind of pressure that any NFL draft pick has faced in recent history. On one hand, he arrives with the cache and playing expectations that accompany a Heisman Trophy winner and No. 2 overall draft pick. On the other, he brings an influx of sponsorship wealth, publicity and influence along with him. And perhaps most importantly, he packs an abundance of the currency New Orleans needs desperately – hope, both on the field and off.

Already, Bush has committed to several community service projects, including putting down AstroTurf to save one of the city's oldest football fields and donating money to Holy Rosary Academy, a school for children with learning disabilities that was in danger of closing in the coming days. And once the season starts, it's expected that Bush will stand in the national spotlight and bring new exposure to the city and its efforts at revival.

He's already attracting attention back to the Saints – a team that has rarely seen national media outlets on the doorstep in May minicamps yet had four of them visiting Saturday. And new head coach Sean Payton had his brain picked in earnest when it came to Bush. Would he get touches as a return man? Where would he factor into the passing game? How would Bush and Deuce McAllister co-exist? All the while, a smattering of fans tried to steal glimpses of Bush and the other rookies any way they could by climbing or crawling along the fences.

"In Dallas and New York, we had people looking under the fence," Payton said. "That might be unique here. … [Reggie] is a sharp guy. He's been in this fishbowl throughout his college career. He's played in national championship games in front of close to 100,000 people. I think the transition for him will be just fine.

"What's unique here is the chance he has, and we have – the pressure maybe all of us have – to help in this area more than just football-wise. I feel that some, too."

Of course, it wasn't the only thing Payton felt this past weekend. Like anyone else, he's driven through New Orleans. He's listened to the people. He's seen them shuffling around the practice field and stealing glances. He feels the swelling attention and optimism. And as he said Saturday, "That can be a good thing."

Or as fans might say … divine.

Deputy Nutz
05-16-2006, 03:10 PM
I don't know if anyone answered this question or not, but rookies report to mini camp after both the rookie and the team sign a waiver, that would basically pay the player some where in the neighborhood of what the same pick got the year before. So if Hawk got shot down in mini camp, he would roughly get a 5 year 20 million dollar deal, something close to what Benson got last year.

Where the hell is Patler? Answer this question with more depth please.

Patler
05-16-2006, 05:37 PM
Where the hell is Patler? Answer this question with more depth please.

Patler lives at JSOnline. :wink:

hurleyfan
05-16-2006, 05:46 PM
I agree, but with just "reporting to work", aren't you surprised how many hammies are strained? Just seems strange to me, specially since Bush hasn't actually signed yet.


Doesn't seem strange at all to me.

I'd pull a hammy too, until I had my signing bonus safely deposited in the bank.
So all the media crap about "I told my agent to get something done, I don't want to miss any camp" is the norm for these guys now! Puttin' on the
good guy image, but not risking anything to pulled hammies, or "hang nails"!

Bretsky
05-16-2006, 10:25 PM
Where the hell is Patler? Answer this question with more depth please.

Patler lives at JSOnline. :wink:

I read a great post by Patler a couple days ago in JS saying how so many insightful posters left the forum to go to other places and rarely is there any new insight on JS anymore. I only lurk there but I agreed with him. Kudos to the JS Patler.

Then I read the infamous Tex oppose that view and ridicule those who left JS and indicate those that left were replaced and are not missed at all. I rarely agreed with Tex, but at least showed him respect nearly all the time. It's too bad he doesn't value that same idea.

GrnBay007
05-16-2006, 10:31 PM
Where the hell is Patler? Answer this question with more depth please.

Patler lives at JSOnline. :wink:

:cry: