Favres Records

[OS PA]

I just now saw the "Favre Watch" link on the main page, and finally realized how close Brett actually is to breaking Marino's records.

I know this has been discussed before but

Career Passing Yards

1 - Dan Marino - 61,361
2 - Brett Favre - 53,615

7,747 to pass (3 years)

Career Passing Attempts

1 - Dan Marino - 8,358
2 - Brett Favre - 7,610

749 to pass (2 Years)

Career Completions

1 - Dan Marino - 4,967
2 - Brett Favre - 4,678

290 to pass (1 Year)

Career Touchdown Passes

1 - Dan Marino - 420
2 - Brett Favre - 396

25 to pass (1 Year)

Career Wins as QB

1 - John Elway - 148
2 - Dan Marino - 147
3 - Brett Favre - 139

9 to take 2nd (1-2 years)
10 to take 1st (1-2 Years)


This season is going to be incredibly fun to watch for more than one reason. If the Packers go out and start winnings games, and Brett is playing really well the hype surrounding these records will be immense, which means more TV coverage of our beloved Packers, and more respect from the league thrown at Favre.

Can't wait.

(ps: I know Favre doesn't care about the records, but we all can.)

[GrnBay007]

If the Packers go out and start winning games, it also means we will hear NOTHING but reporters hounding Brett about whether he will play another year. I hope he sticks to a "no comment" response.....they would get sick of asking it soon enough.

Cool if he could go out on top of all/most of those records!!

[Kiwon]

I really hope that Brett can "redeem" himself in the eyes of many football fans, including a sizeable number of Packers fans, that were urging him to retire.

He was stuck at 19 TDs last year for the longest time and the 29 INTS certainly didn't add any luster to his passing stats. If the OL will block for him and the running game has some consistency, it will be very gratifying to watch him bounce back with a good year and knock down some of Marino's records.

Brett is not the best QB to ever play the game, but he can legitimately be ranked up there with the all-time greats. Packer-haters love to dump on him, but there is little that they can say if his name is written all over the all-time passing records.

[RashanGary]

I don't think this is going ot be a big stats year for Brett. Hopefully he can get the wins record and get close to the TD record.

[swede]

I wonder how close he is to the league record for interceptions? Whoever holds the record would have to be a pretty good quarterback in order to stick around long enough to pile up 100's of ints.

I like the fact that the records are still there as an enticement to keep him playing and keep open the possibility of an Elway-like SB ending to his career.

We can dream.

[Patler]

Most Passes Had Intercepted, Career
277 George Blanda, Chi. Bears, 1949, 1950-58; Baltimore, 1950; Houston, 1960-66; Oakland, 1967-1975
268 John Hadl, San Diego, 1962-1972; Los Angeles, 1973-74; Green Bay, 1974-75; Houston, 1976-77
266 Fran Tarkenton, Minnesota, 1961-66, 1972-78; N.Y. Giants, 1967-1971

Brett Favre - 255

[GBRulz]

He's going to break the TD record at the last home game vs the Queens. And then he's going to walk over to me and hand me the ball.

HA !! I can dream, right?

[MadtownPacker]

Most Passes Had Intercepted, Career
266 Fran Tarkenton, Minnesota, 1961-66, 1972-78; N.Y. Giants, 1967-1971

Brett Favre - 255
Haha, guess we wont be braggin about him taking that viqueens record.

[swede]

Most Passes Had Intercepted, Career
277 George Blanda, Chi. Bears, 1949, 1950-58; Baltimore, 1950; Houston, 1960-66; Oakland, 1967-1975
268 John Hadl, San Diego, 1962-1972; Los Angeles, 1973-74; Green Bay, 1974-75; Houston, 1976-77
266 Fran Tarkenton, Minnesota, 1961-66, 1972-78; N.Y. Giants, 1967-1971

Brett Favre - 255

Thanks, Shamrock.

Blanda and Tarkenton are pretty good company.

The good news is that he's likely to get the TD record before the int record, but given three years more years Favre might hold every bloody record that can be held by quarterbacks.

[Green Bud Packer]

don't forget tarkenton played for the queens from '72-'78 and lead them to 6 central division titles and three super bowl losses.sure it's a negative record but it doesn't correlate to being a bad q.b.

[jack's smirking revenge]

I think Brett is going to have a good year, but I think he'll reach the INT record before he reaches the TD record. I hope I'm wrong, but I sense another 20 INT year. Though I do think he'll break the TD record this year too. 25-26 TDs and 23 INTs won't be that hard for him to achieve, especially with so many new faces on the offensive line and in the WR corps. Not suggesting doom and gloom--just saying that I think he'll hit both this year and achieve the INT record first.

tyler

[Patler]

Most Passes Had Intercepted, Career
277 George Blanda, Chi. Bears, 1949, 1950-58; Baltimore, 1950; Houston, 1960-66; Oakland, 1967-1975
268 John Hadl, San Diego, 1962-1972; Los Angeles, 1973-74; Green Bay, 1974-75; Houston, 1976-77
266 Fran Tarkenton, Minnesota, 1961-66, 1972-78; N.Y. Giants, 1967-1971

Brett Favre - 255

Thanks, Shamrock.

Blanda and Tarkenton are pretty good company.

The good news is that he's likely to get the TD record before the int record, but given three years more years Favre might hold every bloody record that can be held by quarterbacks.

If 2005 had been a more "normal" year for Favre, the TD record would have been almost a certainty this season, and the interception record another year or two off. He would have been on the doorstep of the record for most wins by a starting QB, too.

[swede]

don't forget tarkenton played for the queens from '72-'78 and lead them to 6 central division titles and three super bowl losses.sure it's a negative record but it doesn't correlate to being a bad q.b.

As I said before, the only way a QB could hold the int record is if he was good enough to play nearly forever.

No surprise that it's Blanda. He did play nearly forever.

And as far as Trkenton goes, my dirty little secret is that I spent the fiirst six years of my life in Minnesota. Joe Kapp and Fran tarkenton were heroes to me. After Bud Grant left I gave in to the local peer pressure and thereafter it was Green Bay all the way.

[Little Whiskey]

thing thing about brett taking the int record is that he probably has played in twice as many games as the other qbs on the list.


i'm sure some of our stat gurus can post games played as well. :mrgreen:

[Patler]

thing thing about brett taking the int record is that he probably has played in twice as many games as the other qbs on the list.


i'm sure some of our stat gurus can post games played as well. :mrgreen:

Games played is sort of irrelevent. How about passing attempts instead?

Blanda- 4,007
Hadl - 4,687
Tarkenton - 6,467
Favre - 7,610

By the time Favre gets the record, he will have attempted about twice as many passes as Blanda.

[RashanGary]

Good point Shamler

[Homer Jay]

My contribution to meaningless stats.

Career TD's per attempt:

Tarkenton 1/18.9
Hadl 1/19.2
Blanda 1/16.9
Marino 1/19.9
Favre 1/19.2

Career INT's per attempt

Tarkenton 1/24.3
Hadl 1/17.4
Blanda 1/14.4
Marino 1/33.1
Favre 1/29.8

Just a couple more and then I'm done. In 225 games Favre has averaged 1.76 TD's and 1.13 INT's per game. Dan Marino averaged 1.73 TD's and 1.04 INT's per game in 242 games. If history repeats itself Brett Favre will end this year with 424 TD's and 273 INT's.

[LEWCWA]

Some of those older QB's didn't throw as many passes, but when they threw the ball they threw deeper patterns. The west coast dink and dunk wasn't really in vogue when Blanda and Tarkington were playing.

[Noodle]

Here's what I think is a statistical oddity: Favre has never led the NFL in Quaterback Rating. He led the NFC only once, in 1995 with a 99.5, but that year Harbough led the NFL with a 100.7.

Still, I would have far preferred to have had Favre that year than friggin' Harbough.

This was Favre's line in 1995: 570 359 4,413 38 13 99.5

This was Harbough's line: 314 200 2,575 17 5 100.7

Not even close. Almost 2,000 more yards and 20 more TDs. Man was Favre smokin' good!

Just to compare, here was last year's line: 607 372 3881 20 29 70.9

Elway's in the same boat, having led the AFC twice, but never the NFL.

[chain_gang]

Too bad on the records that Favre will get won't hold up too long if Manning plays as long as he says. But just imagine Favre with wideouts like harrison and wayne for as many years as peyton has had them.



Colts | Manning planning to play eight more years
Fri, 19 May 2006 06:31:06 -0700

Mike Chappell, of the Indianapolis Star, reports Indianapolis Colts QB Peyton Manning intends to play eight more seasons in the NFL that would take him through the 2013 season and a 16-year career. "I've just always picked 16 years for myself,'' Manning said, "so I've just finished the halfway point. I still feel like I'm in a young body. Certainly I've been fortunate healthwise and I've had outstanding protection my entire career. I still feel very healthy.'' To keep Manning healthy Indianapolis Colts quarterbacks coach Jim Caldwell didn't allow him to throw until Monday, May 1, and uses a counter in practice to make sure he doesn't throw too much.

[Scott Campbell]

Here's what I think is a statistical oddity: Favre has never led the NFL in Quaterback Rating. He led the NFC only once, in 1995 with a 99.5, but that year Harbough led the NFL with a 100.7.

Still, I would have far preferred to have had Favre that year than friggin' Harbough.

That's one of them there lyin stats.

[Scott Campbell]

Too bad on the records that Favre will get won't hold up too long if Manning plays as long as he says. But just imagine Favre with wideouts like harrison and wayne for as many years as peyton has had them.


Peyton is a tough guy, and his durability record would be incredibly impressive if it wasn't for Brett. I think he's already in second place all time. If he stays healthy, he could own as many records as he likes. But he's probably more concerned right now with getting the monkey off his back and winning the big game.

[Noodle]

Exactly, SC, and reminds me of one of the great lines of all time:

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

[Noodle]

Peyton is a tough guy, and his durability record would be incredibly impressive if it wasn't for Brett. I think he's already in second place all time. If he stays healthy, he could own as many records as he likes. But he's probably more concerned right now with getting the monkey off his back and winning the big game.

I agree with this, and I think next year will be very interesting for Manning after what had to be an incredibly disappointing finish.

These guys pretend that not winning the big one is no big deal, but I bet it burns Manning more than we can imagine.

I saw an NFL Films clip showing Steve Young at the end of the Super Bowl he finally won. He was grabbing at his back and yelling to his teammates "It ain't there no more! That monkey is off my back!" The mix of joy and relief was incredible, and it gave you a hint of how much not winning the SB had been grinding on him.

Manning's now in the same boat. And the longer he goes without an SB, the worse it's gonna get.

[Scott Campbell]

Manning's now in the same boat. And the longer he goes without an SB, the worse it's gonna get.

I think it's way worse than that for Manning. I have some friends from TN, and they argue that Peyton has never won a really big game in his life - going all the way back to his entire college career.

[chain_gang]

Manning's now in the same boat. And the longer he goes without an SB, the worse it's gonna get.

I think it's way worse than that for Manning. I have some friends from TN, and they argue that Peyton has never won a really big game in his life - going all the way back to his entire college career.


Totally agree Scott, I never remember seeing manning win a big game anywhere. It seems come crunch time whether it'd be a big game against Florida in college, or the playoffs against anyone. They figure out how to take him out of the game. They've been great during the regular season, but during the playoffs, I guess maybe because they have to face teams with a D or a choke job. I also don't think he'll win one as long as Dungy is coach. Tampa won one right after Dungy left. I think Dungy is great coach if you just want to make the playoffs every year, not win the Super Bowl.

[Noodle]

You know, I just refuse to buy this, "He can't win the big one," stuff, either about Manning or Dungy. I'm old enough to remember when everyone said that Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski just couldn't win it. Same was said about Tom Osborne at Nebraska, as well as Elway, though he had some epic wins in pretty big games before the SB.

I agree that Manning has an especially big monkey because of his hisotry at Tennessee and because of his run so far with Indy. But I'm not counting either Peyton or Dungy out until they call it quits.

[chain_gang]

True noodle, they also said the same thing about last years super bowl champion coach Bill Cowher. Never can count them out but it just seems to be a little pattern going on, and until they can prove it otherwise it'll remain a monkey on his back.

[MadtownPacker]

I saw an NFL Films clip showing Steve Young at the end of the Super Bowl he finally won. He was grabbing at his back and yelling to his teammates "It ain't there no more! That monkey is off my back!" The mix of joy and relief was incredible, and it gave you a hint of how much not winning the SB had been grinding on him.
Young was also referring to the shadow of Montana and his 4 SB rings that constantly was hung over Young's head. Manning is good but I dont think he will last 15 years. Hell the steelers almost finished his ass in that playoff game. Manning is useless once he has to move his feet. Throws some straight up ducks.

[Little Whiskey]

I think it's way worse than that for Manning.


imagine what Marino feels like. the guy went the the big show his rookie year, and never tasted it again. I think it has more to do with competition then with players or coaches, "not being able to win the big one". in marino's case he always played against the great bills teams, in order to get back to the sb. in Kelly's case he always played the awsome 49ers teams. Same thing with Manning, he has always ran into the patriots. this holds true for young and even favre. they ran into the cowboys

[Noodle]

Whiskey, you speak truth. I saw an interview with Marino where he said maybe it was too easy his rookie year. He fully expected to get a bunch of times, and he was shocked when it didn't happen.

That said, his HoF induction speech was very cool, especially the bit where he chucked one last ball to Clayton. And I also liked how he admitted that he regretted not winning a SB, but that he wouldn't have traded an SB ring for the run he had. That's a pretty sweet tribute to his teammates and to all they accomplished together.

[Little Whiskey]

That said, his HoF induction speech was very cool,

it brought a tear to my eye. i've always been a big marino fan. ive always put him high on the greatest list. i never bought into the idea that rings point to individual greatness.

[Scott Campbell]

You know, I just refuse to buy this, "He can't win the big one," stuff, either about Manning or Dungy. I'm old enough to remember when everyone said that Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski just couldn't win it. Same was said about Tom Osborne at Nebraska, as well as Elway, though he had some epic wins in pretty big games before the SB.

I agree that Manning has an especially big monkey because of his hisotry at Tennessee and because of his run so far with Indy. But I'm not counting either Peyton or Dungy out until they call it quits.

It's not that I think he can't. I just know he hasn't. Until he does, it's a valid point.

[Merlin]

As I have been fending off trolls on ESPN for what seems to be an enternity, I added a few stats to this list. I thought it would take Favre two more years to get most of the records and maybe 3 for them all. However, it appears that outside of the Career Passing yards & Attempts, Favre can own Marino's ass THIS SEASON!!! Can't wait to see Marino crying in December...




I know this has been discussed before but

Career Passing Yards

1 - Dan Marino - 61,361
2 - Brett Favre - 53,615

7,747 to pass (3 years)
Averages 3830 yards per season - 2 years max

Career Passing Attempts

1 - Dan Marino - 8,358
2 - Brett Favre - 7,610

Averages 554 attempt per season - 1.5 seasons
749 to pass (2 Years)

Career Completions

1 - Dan Marino - 4,967
2 - Brett Favre - 4,678

290 to pass (1 Year)

Averages 334 completions per season - 14 games

Career Touchdown Passes

1 - Dan Marino - 420
2 - Brett Favre - 396

25 to pass (1 Year)

Averages 28 TD's per season - 1 year

Career Wins as QB

1 - John Elway - 148
2 - Dan Marino - 147
3 - Brett Favre - 139

9 to take 2nd (1-2 years)
10 to take 1st (1-2 Years)

Pray for 1 year and a 10-6 record!