The Official Raiders @ Packers Game Day Thread!

[Tarlam!]

Well, Michele's streak has come to an end, so, I thought I'd try and start my own streak!

I hope I am still starting this thread in September next year!!

[Tarlam!]

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d804ea231

[b bulldog]

I like the Pack in a close one. I think they will come out sluggish today. 24-20

[Rastak]

I can actually watch this one......should be interesting.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

We need to win badly today. We need that bye week.

Tarlem, I hope you can do what Mad did this time last year.

[MJZiggy]

Happy Game Day!! Feels like they haven't played for a month. Let's get this win streak started!

[GBRulz]

Woo hoo....go Tar!!!

THIS is the game we should have chosen as the posters game. Well, it would have been a game where all of us would have been able to get tix at least. Even brokers said in yesterdays paper that they were selling most tix at face value. People are saving their $$ for the playoff game(s) here.

Lets win and clinch the NFCN today !!

[Rastak]

Is this going to be televised high def? AFC games aren't always high def.

[GBRulz]

I don't watch a whole lot of AFC but every time I've tuned into a game, it's in high def. Probably doesn't help your question!

[Rastak]

I don't watch a whole lot of AFC but every time I've tuned into a game, it's in high def. Probably doesn't help your question!

CBS is ultra cheap and only shows some games each week in high def. I think FOX does all the games high def.


edit: Looks like it's high def.

[Partial]

Well, here is hoping for a Packer victory today. As usual, I'll be at work where they're 9-0, so here's hoping that streak continues.

[Fritz]

Hi-def, low-def, no-def...I don't care. I think this one's actually going to be on tv here in metro Detroit today. I believe it's the CBS game. I can flip between this one and the Detroit game. And I can do what I always do - hope for a great Packer win, and a terrible Detroit loss.

I think my deep dislike of the Lions goes way back to '91, when the Lions had that one good year, with Barry Sanders and Chris Spielman and all. People who knew I was a Packers fan were freakin' ruthless with me, and were really shamelessly over-the-top about how great the Lions were. I got hammered all the time, tormented about how lousy the Pack was, and the braggadoccio from the Lions fans was torrential.

Apparently that experience scarred me. Fortunately, the Lions themselves helped me heal by getting their asses handed to them, stuffed with the member of the Washington Redskins, in the playoffs that year. And they've sucked ever since.

[Brando19]

I'm very excited because they're showing this game in southern West Virginia! Usually I get crappy Eagles, Steelers, or Redskins games. GO PACK GO!!!!


Quick prediction....Packers 24 Raiders 13.....Favre 235 yards, 2 TD 0 INT, Grant 155 yards, 1 TD

[GoPackGo]

I like the Pack in a close one. I think they will come out sluggish today. 24-20

The Packers won close games against all the other AFC west teams(Chargers, Broncos, Chiefs) this year. I don't see this being any different.

[ND72]

I personally think they'll come out a bit energized today. 3 games in how many days, now they got a "little" break, and they are coming back home. Crowd will be ready to go. I think they'll come out hot...and I think Brett will come out hot. BUT...McCarthy has to stick to what has won us games, not bomb after bomb.

[swede]

I think my deep dislike of the Lions goes way back to '91, when the Lions had that one good year, with Barry Sanders and Chris Spielman and all...

Apparently that experience scarred me. Fortunately, the Lions themselves helped me heal by getting their asses handed to them...they've sucked ever since.

I miss Wayne Fontes. Those were good times.

[KYPack]

Hi-def, low-def, no-def...I don't care. I think this one's actually going to be on tv here in metro Detroit today. I believe it's the CBS game. I can flip between this one and the Detroit game. And I can do what I always do - hope for a great Packer win, and a terrible Detroit loss.

I think my deep dislike of the Lions goes way back to '91, when the Lions had that one good year, with Barry Sanders and Chris Spielman and all. People who knew I was a Packers fan were freakin' ruthless with me, and were really shamelessly over-the-top about how great the Lions were. I got hammered all the time, tormented about how lousy the Pack was, and the braggadoccio from the Lions fans was torrential.

Apparently that experience scarred me. Fortunately, the Lions themselves helped me heal by getting their asses handed to them, stuffed with the member of the Washington Redskins, in the playoffs that year. And they've sucked ever since.

People forget how putrid Lion fans can be. They only come out every 12 years or so. The thing that gets me is their lack of football knowlege. ?They are generallt jusy a bunch of razz artists.

[RashanGary]

I personally think they'll come out a bit energized today. 3 games in how many days, now they got a "little" break, and they are coming back home. Crowd will be ready to go. I think they'll come out hot...and I think Brett will come out hot. BUT...McCarthy has to stick to what has won us games, not bomb after bomb.

McCarthy didn't call bomb after bomb. He wanted to stretch out the Dallas defense and make them cover the whole field. Favre made the decision every time to bomb it up. MM didn't tell him to bomb it up no matter what. He said take it if it's there. Brett tried to take it and it wasn't there (neither in protection nor in the coverages he was seeing). MM can't predict the defense. He calls the play and Brett has to take advantage of what is there when the play develops. That was all on Brett IMO.

[RashanGary]

And for the record, MM should continue to call deep balls and Brett should check the fuck out of it if he sees 2 deep safety's like he did in Dallas. INstead Brett went out into cover 2 and threw it right to a safety. That is just stupid football. I don't care if one of the WR's is running deep on the playcall, you don't have to throw it there when you know the defense isn't giving it. Maybe he doesn't know, and that is part of his record interception legacy. Deep balls change the game and they make the defense respect you. It's a part of every great offense. It's up to the QB to know when it's there and when to check it down. The playcaller can't call scared because he thinks is QB is jsut going to chuck it up no matter what. AT that point, you get a new QB.

[Badgepack]

Let's see if we can get the run game going early, and let's make sure we don't use the big 5, keep someone back to protect banged up Favre. He's the only QB we have right now.

[The Shadow]

How much do the Raiders want to play on frozen tundra?

[Farley Face]

woodson is active.

[The Shadow]

woodson is active.

Oh no.
Another 6 weeks of winter!

[Rastak]

Inactives



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Green Bay Packers
Inactives: QB Aaron Rodgers, TE Bubba Franks, WR Shaun Bodiford, RB Brandon Jackson, LB Tracy White, G Allen Barbre, DT Daniel Muir, DT Johnny Jolly.

Fantasy take: QB Brett Favre is active and will start against Oakland. RB Craig Nall is second on the depth chart. CB Charles Woodson is active, which helps the value of the Green Bay defense.






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Oakland Raiders
Inactives: QB JaMarcus Russell (3rd QB), QB Daunte Culpepper, RB Dominic Rhodes, CB John Bowie, C Jake Grove, T Mario Henderson, DT Josh Shaw.

Fantasy take: QB Josh McCown is active and will start in Green Bay. WRs Ronald Curry and Jerry Porter are active and will start.

[RashanGary]

Looks like we're going to see a lot of Harrell. Only 3 DT's and he's one of them.

[MadtownPacker]

No culpepper or russell??

It might turn into a massacre.

[CaptainKickass]

Lets get this game started!

Pack 24
Gayders 10

[b bulldog]

Woodson is basicly 100% MM just said

[b bulldog]

Our kick coverage and our run D is a concern to me.

[Tarlam!]

I'm just glad this is not another 2 am game for us here in old Europe! 8-)

[Freak Out]

Go Packers!


Who's out today for the Pack?

[Tony Oday]

Damn I wish Woodson was on the bench getting healthy...

[gbgary]

did the announcers just say it was less than 20* there?

[Brohm]

WTB safety that can catch.

[gbgary]

dang......morency with the tackle

[Brohm]

Nice lookout block by Morency

[Tony Oday]

When do we get to cut Morency? He even is tackling our own guys :)

[Rastak]

Why did he field it inside the 10?

[Brohm]

Morency is useless this year. Such high hopes too.

[RashanGary]

Blackmon looked to have an explosive burst that we havn't seen all year. My hopes for him just went up.

[Brohm]

Why did he field it inside the 10?

Definatley feast or famine there. He would have broke that if Morency would have been blocking. Should have let it bounce into the endzone though..

[Tarlam!]

Why did he field it inside the 10?

That's Woodson's influence. I remember him saying that in an interview...

[Tony Oday]

here comes the play action!

[gbgary]

i think we have us a running back!

[Rastak]

Bad pass........nice run blocking so far by GB......

[Rastak]

Does he have no confidence in Crosby? 4th and 4? Aye yi yi.

[Lurker64]

Odd choice going for it on 4th there.

[gbgary]

i sure hope the Packer faithful gave warren sapp an ear full when he came out.

[Tarlam!]

Odd choice going for it on 4th there.

The message is clear: M3 wants his offense to win the game.

[Brohm]

Our DE and OLB almost never play containment on those tosses/flat plays.

[Lurker64]

If McCown keeps putting them up like that, we'd better come down with one. How's Rouse feeling?

[Bretsky]

Detroit 7
Dallas 0

[Rastak]

Stupid to go for it.

[Bretsky]

Great Play by Collins

[gbgary]

great play by collins

[ny10804]

Nick Collins is fast.

[Tony Oday]

HELL YEAH WOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

[Tarlam!]

Nick Collins!!!

[Brohm]

Nice rundown by Collins.

[ny10804]

Ooo I can feel it coming in the air tonight!

[RashanGary]

If that were Rouse, we'd be looking at a 1st down right now.

[Rastak]

Great Play by Collins


Very nice play....two stupid calls in a row though...3rd and 3 and a slow developing run and a pitch of 4th and 1? And why even go for it in that situation?

[Tarlam!]

Stupid to go for it.

It was the right call IMO. They were at the 50. Two plays laster, the Pack are back to the 50.

[Rastak]

Stupid to go for it.

It was the right call IMO. They were at the 50. Two plays laster, the Pack are back to the 50.


I'm not so sure....Favre's arm doesn't look right. They should stuff 8 in the box.

[Badgerinmaine]

Does he have no confidence in Crosby? 4th and 4? Aye yi yi.
odd call--it's not as thought giving it up on the 26 after a miss would've been so bad.

[Tarlam!]

[quote=Tarlam!]Favre's arm doesn't look right. They should stuff 8 in the box.

Looked OK on that throw!

[Rastak]

[quote=Tarlam!]Favre's arm doesn't look right. They should stuff 8 in the box.

Looked OK on that throw!

It was 6 yards....

[Lurker64]

Hooray, a successful screen pass. Good balance by Morencey there.

[ny10804]

Great job by Morency. Spitz, not so much.

[gbgary]

gee...protection and short passes. what a great idea.

[Lurker64]

Gah...

[ny10804]

Bad pass. Brett looked bad (hurt) on that play.

[Brohm]

Matter of time, Farve is still overthrowing/throwing ducks out there.

[Badgerinmaine]

Tipped pick...Don't like how the Raiders are hanging around so far.

[falco]

wasn't a great throw, but robinson didn't adjust very well either

[Tarlam!]

Tipped! No blame on Brett. That was NOT Bonehead.

[Brando19]

What a dumb play.....go back to the RUN!!!!! After the run is established...go to the 5 WR set!

[Brohm]

You'd think that if Farve is not 100% they would pound it more and take some PA shots instead of this crap. Farve isn't on atm.

[RashanGary]

Robinson looked very herky jerky on that route. It was thrown to a good part of the field, Robinson and Favre just might not have the chemistry that Driver and Jennings have with Favre.

[falco]

[quote="Brando19"]What a dumb play.....go back to the RUN!!!!! After the run is established...go to the 5 WR set![/quote

once the run is established wouldn't it be silly to go to the 5 wr set? once the run is established you'd want to use playaction

[Bub]

Yup...not good. Field goal range twice, zero points.

[Badgerinmaine]

Unlike most of you, we don't have the game here in New England, and I finally broke down and got Field Pass to hear the radio feed. Boy, it's annoying how they're running NFL ads this year (they didn't used to do that) and it's the same five ads from the league over and over and over.

[RashanGary]

Acctually, that throw should have been outside a little more.

[Rastak]

Tipped! No blame on Brett. That was NOT Bonehead.


It wasn't a good throw.

[Bub]

I'm in SoCal and the Packer game has been on for about the last 2 months or so. Now we're playing a Cal team, and it's not on TV....real nice.

[Lurker64]

Unlike most of you, we don't have the game here in New England, and I finally broke down and got Field pass to hear the radio feed. Boy, it's annoying how they're running NFL ads this year (they didn't used to do that) and it's the same five ads from the league over and over and over.

i'm listening to the game on fieldpass, and I have to say that the NFL commercials are less annoying than the "long bouts of silence" that used to break up the game action. Especially since the guy would often forget to hit the button to turn the stream back on, so suddenly pastoral silence would be interrupted by Larry McCarren yelling about something. At least I can tune out the noise, the silence lures you in and puts you in a lull before surprising you with more sudden football.

[RashanGary]

Well, Favre has had an odd week with little practice and a lot of unusual responsiblities (make a wish/sportsman of the year). Athletes swear by routine. Hopefully Favre gets in a little groove here. Even if he doesn't, the defense is playing really well so this game can be had even without a sharp Brett Favre.

[Tarlam!]

Tipped! No blame on Brett. That was NOT Bonehead.


It wasn't a good throw.

Are we having a tiff? We are not agreeing much today!!

I still love you, though, Ras. :P

[Badgerinmaine]

I'd prefer the silence to hearing Ben Roethlisberger tell me for the 8th time why he should go to the Pro Bowl.

[GBRulz]

I can't help but whenever I see that commercial (Garmin) or hear Carol of the Bells, I think "ding fries are done"

[DannoMac21]

Lions about to score again!

[Tony Oday]

I gotta run I gotta run...

me too

[Rastak]

Tipped! No blame on Brett. That was NOT Bonehead.


It wasn't a good throw.

Are we having a tiff? We are not agreeing much today!!

I still love you, though, Ras. :P


Oh no, not at all. I just think he isn't looking sharp at all with his throws. He admitted he has numbness in two fingers on his throwing hand. It screws up your touch I would guess. Last time he hurt his elbow he threw 5 picks in 2 games....he may not be healthy right now but Nall sure isn;t the answer so he's gotta play through it.

[falco]

Lions about to score again!

best news i've heard all day

[GBRulz]

Well, Favre has had an odd week with little practice and a lot of unusual responsiblities (make a wish/sportsman of the year). Athletes swear by routine. Hopefully Favre gets in a little groove here. Even if he doesn't, the defense is playing really well so this game can be had even without a sharp Brett Favre.

I would assume his limited practice was because of his injury. He was only gone one night to receive his SOY award. The Make a Wish award was in GB.

[Badgerinmaine]

I can't help but whenever I see that commercial (Garmin) or hear Carol of the Bells, I think "ding fries are done"
I'd even prefer THAT to the NFL radio ads. :-)
"WOULD you like some fries with tha-at? WOULD you like some fries with tha-at?"

[DannoMac21]

*Sigh* Lions couldn't convert on 1st and 1. 10-0 Lions.

[Freak Out]

We should be up by at least 10 points after one.

[BEARMAN]

Come on you bunch of cheese eaters, represent the NFCN !

[Bretsky]

Terrible Blocking

[GBRulz]

What a dumb play.....go back to the RUN!!!!! After the run is established...go to the 5 WR set!

This was one of the things I was screaming at during the Dallas game. We were finding holes and yet we kept going back to the pass

[ny10804]

Sapp on Driver is a mismatch. :)

[gbgary]

donald!!

stupid sapp in coverage....i love it

[Rastak]

Rush three and have Sapp in coverage? Is Kiffin an idiot?

[Tony Oday]

Man I wish we had Sapp :) He actually looks like he likes the Pack

[Lurker64]

Sapp on Driver is a mismatch. :)

In pretty much any direct competition between the two that's liable to take place on a football field.

[Rastak]

Green Bay has a great gameplan going with the short passing game.....

[Tony Oday]

Sapp on Driver is a mismatch. :)

In pretty much any direct competition between the two that's liable to take place on a football field.
cept run stuffing...

[GBRulz]

who is the dude with the long hair on Oakland's sidelines?

[Lurker64]

That was a nice throw.

Also, I guess putting back 12 guys is an idea as to stop the 5 WR set.

[Badgerinmaine]

12 men are NOT enough to stop Driver!

[Tony Oday]

who is the dude with the long hair on Oakland's sidelines?

a retired hells angel

[Lurker64]

Sapp on Driver is a mismatch. :)

In pretty much any direct competition between the two that's liable to take place on a football field.
cept run stuffing...

No, Sapp is much better at run stuffing than Donald is. Driver trying to block Sapp is a mismatch too.

[gbgary]

Sapp on Driver is a mismatch. :)



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[Tony Oday]

THATS THE KINDA RUN WE LOVE!

[GrnBay007]

Hi Peeps!!! no score :(

Had to run out and get Guitar Hero IIII so missed the first Q.

[Tony Oday]

Sapp on Driver is a mismatch. :)

In pretty much any direct competition between the two that's liable to take place on a football field.
cept run stuffing...

No, Sapp is much better at run stuffing than Donald is. Driver trying to block Sapp is a mismatch too.

Sapp has better hands ;)

[Lurker64]

THATS THE KINDA RUN WE LOVE!

A third and one conversion? Those have been in short supply in recent memory.

[Rastak]

Boy Grant runs hard.

[falco]

thats a run we couldn't have done the first have of the season

[GBRulz]

yeah, stick with the run. I like the call there !!

[Tony Oday]

Who says we dont have a running game!

[gbgary]

grant! whodathunkit? what a great pick up he's been.

[Badgerinmaine]

THAT'S better! Man, I like Grant.

[RashanGary]

The Packers are just the better team. Favre seems to have gotten into a better groove too.

[GrnBay007]

whoo hooo!!! Grant!!

[gbgary]

'boys just got 7

[Lurker64]

grant! whodathunkit? what a great pick up he's been.

It's sort of amazing the value that Ted Thompson got out of the sixth round in one calendar year. We got three starters via four 6th round picks and Desmond Bishop looks just fine on Special Teams. That sort of value from a late round is unheard of, isn't it?

[GBRulz]

Grant is freaken awesome !!!

[BEARMAN]

Nice ! Now don't let up ! You let this team hang around and they will hurt you in the fourth quarter.

[RashanGary]

That 3rd and short where we just punched it down their throat was nice. The TD was nice too because they had their big boys in and we just overpowered them.

These are very good signs heading down the stretch run. If this team develops a balanced run game and cleans up the mistakes, they have a legit chance.

[Rastak]

'boys just got 7

Cool! Praise the lord, and pass the amunition!

[falco]

grant! whodathunkit? what a great pick up he's been.

It's sort of amazing the value that Ted Thompson got out of the sixth round in one calendar year. We got three starters via four 6th round picks and Desmond Bishop looks just fine on Special Teams. That sort of value from a late round is unheard of, isn't it?

not only that, but rodgers performance last week certainly seemed to indicate it was a good pick by TT...makes his draft look much better

[Lurker64]

Nice kick and coverage combination there.

[GBRulz]

grant! whodathunkit? what a great pick up he's been.

It's sort of amazing the value that Ted Thompson got out of the sixth round in one calendar year. We got three starters via four 6th round picks and Desmond Bishop looks just fine on Special Teams. That sort of value from a late round is unheard of, isn't it?

yeah, our 6th rounders are seeming to be a much better value then our 1st and 2nd rounders put together.

At this point anyhow....

[Rastak]

Oakland is 30th against the run....Packers are smart to pound the ball.

[Tony Oday]

I thought we traded our 1st round pick...arent those guys supposed to be starters? ;)

[Badgerinmaine]

10-7 Detroit

[mmmdk]

Grant>Gado; both just scored TD.

[Lurker64]

Oakland is 30th against the run....Packers are smart to pound the ball.

That might be a somewhat misleading statistic though, when you consider that the Oakland division foes are Kansas City, Denver, and San Diego all of which are primarily running teams.

[Rastak]

Wow, that was a horrible call.

[Lurker64]

I'm concerned about the coverage on these last couple plays. Thankfully the Raiders are known to commit some penalties.

[Tony Oday]

Wow, that was a horrible call.

they are making up for the Dallas game i think...

[Lurker64]

Wow, that was a horrible call.

The play, the defensive formation, the hold, or the pick?

There's a lot of different things that you could mean there.

[Bretsky]

Nice ! Now don't let up ! You let this team hang around and they will hurt you in the fourth quarter.


Good to see you are finally becoming a Packer fan. Love the pic

[Lurker64]

BLACKMON!

[gbgary]

way to go!!

[Tony Oday]

CAN I GET A HELL YEAH!

[Rastak]

Man that was a dangerous play but it sure payed off....nice return!

[DannoMac21]

BLACKMONNNNNNNNN

[falco]

man,blackmonw as the shit in the preaseason.....so glad he is healthy now he looked explosive on every run

[Brohm]

Will the Thrill!!

[GBRulz]

YEAH !!!!

[Badgerinmaine]

Wow, is this the Packers? Can't be with this kind of return game. :P

[mmmdk]

Wow, that was a horrible call.

they are making up for the Dallas game i think...

Yup, refssuck this season - can't remember when they were this bad.

WOW - :shock:

[gbgary]

dang it........he stepped out.........but they didn't challenge

[Rastak]

Wow, that was a horrible call.

The play, the defensive formation, the hold, or the pick?

There's a lot of different things that you could mean there.



Umm, in order to pick you have to make contact, he never touched him. That was pathetic.


edit: so the invisible pick which is what the call was.

[GrnBay007]

CAN I GET A HELL YEAH!

HELL YEAH!!!!

[Lurker64]

Umm, in order to pick you have to make contact, he never touched him. That was pathetic.

I wasn't disagreeing with you, I just wanted to know what you meant.

[Rastak]

Umm, in order to pick you have to make contact, he never touched him. That was pathetic.

I wasn't disagreeing with you, I just wanted to know what you meant.


No problem......Green bay is playing pretty well.

[falco]

boy oh boy lets get it together refs.... like a bunch of idiots out there

[DannoMac21]

13-7 Lions.

[falco]

harris vindicates himself just a tad for last week

[Packers4Glory]

blackmon is going to be a nice weapon heading into the final stretches and into the playoffs.....PLEASE keep Woodson off punts and lets get blackmon and williams to return kicks. Those guys are weapons and game changers.

[Rastak]

HA, Porter didn't even try to tackle Harris......

[ny10804]

Nice tackle by C Wood. :D :D

[gbgary]

Nice tackle by C Wood. :D :D

chuck can do it all!!

[Deputy Nutz]

Harris doesn't have much experience returning ints.

[GrnBay007]

This is a game that should be taped so during the off season you can get a good fix of Green and Gold!!! :D

[falco]

that play says everything about the packers...give favre time, and he'll chop up a defense....that was the biggest problem against the cowboys, our OLINE sucked

[Deputy Nutz]

Tauscher is on his last legs this season.

[falco]

oaklands DC looks like a perfect fit for the team

[Lurker64]

Tauscher is on his last legs this season.

If we can get another tackle, I could see him moving to guard. We could use some guards...

[Rastak]

oaklands DC looks like a perfect fit for the team


Yup...... :lol:

[footballfever]

colledge just lost his job for the year

[gex]

That almost looked like a touchdown celebration when all the refs were huddled up and they all threw up the flags at the same time :D .

[gbgary]

....that was the biggest problem against the cowboys, our OLINE sucked

no...it was the 5 wide out, no backs to help protect, slow developing long-ball play calling

[Rastak]

Favre held the ball too long.

[ny10804]

56 could have laid Brett out... but didn't. I wonder why.

[falco]

Favre held the ball too long.

that was the nice thing about rodgers last week.....there was plenty of room to scramble on that last play

[DannoMac21]

Lions moving the ball again.

[Lurker64]

Favre held the ball too long.

Oh absolutely, you can't ask the OL to block for extended periods of time in those wide open sets.

It actually looks that if he had handed the ball off right away instead of faking the handoff, it would have been a positive play.

Then again, I think it was Jackson in there and he's been known to get tackled by air

[Deputy Nutz]

56 could have laid Brett out... but didn't. I wonder why.

Just hit him in the legs :roll:

[gbgary]

13-7 detroit and the lions are in the red zone

[GrnBay007]

Maybe Dallas was looking past the Lions

[Rastak]

Favre held the ball too long.

Oh absolutely, you can't ask the OL to block for extended periods of time in those wide open sets.

It actually looks that if he had handed the ball off right away instead of faking the handoff, it would have been a positive play.

Then again, I think it was Jackson in there and he's been known to get tackled by air


Jackson is a healthy scratch I think.

[gbgary]

lions......1st and goal at the one

[Lurker64]

Jackson is a healthy scratch I think.

Must have been Morencey then, since I think I saw Grant come out. Whatever.

[falco]

Maybe Dallas was looking past the Lions

i'd love to see us tie it back up with the cowboys this week...will make the rest of the year interesting

[Lurker64]

Ouch, ugly kick.

[DannoMac21]

Damnit Crosby

[GBRulz]

do we bring another kicker into camp next year? I say we do.

[RashanGary]

do we bring another kicker into camp next year? I say we do.

I think so too. Competition for everyone.

[Rastak]

Almost looked like someone got a piece of it....

[Deputy Nutz]

I didn't need that three point.

Third time in Oakland territory without any points

[Lurker64]

Has Crosby kicked in Green Bay when it was cold yet?

We'll see how he adjusts.

[RashanGary]

KGB time

[mmmdk]

Crosby is a rookie but he's not confident enough.

[Badgerinmaine]

Well, they usually have another camp kicker, just in case, but mostly Crosby's been excellent.

I do worry about all the blown scoring opportunities.

[MadtownPacker]

56 could have laid Brett out... but didn't. I wonder why.

Just hit him in the legs :roll:Thats what I was thinking too. Looked like he was trying to take him out.

[GBRulz]

Has Crosby kicked in Green Bay when it was cold yet?

We'll see how he adjusts.

yes. and I'm not impressed. I mean Rayner did fine last year until the cold games, too. I admit, it certainly makes one appreciate what Longwell did here all those years.

[RashanGary]

This is where we missed KGB so badly last week. When the opposition needs to pass and you rely on your front 4, it's invaluable to have that 3rd pass rusher.

[mmmdk]

Well, they usually have another camp kicker, just in case, but mostly Crosby's been excellent.

I do worry about all the blown scoring opportunities.

When Crosby miss a FG it's ugly - that's just sloppy.

[Lurker64]

Defense needs to play less soft here.

[Rastak]

Barnett got his bell rung big time.

[gbgary]

detroit finally scored on 3rd down

[DannoMac21]

Touchdown Lions.

Fuck...

[mmmdk]

Barnett hurt - didn't look right.

[RashanGary]

Poked in the eye? Concussion?

[GBRulz]

oh no, not Barnett

[GBRulz]

Touchdown Lions.

Fuck...

you don't want the Lions to win??? :shock:

[RashanGary]

oh no, not Barnett

I know, it looked better at the end, but he's one of the guys we can't afford to lose.

With Dallas tripping up against Detroit, we have a chance at home field.

[MadtownPacker]

Touchdown Lions.

Fuck... Why dont you want the lions to win? You do know they are playing dallas right?

[mmmdk]

Poked in the eye? Concussion?

Concussion.

[Lurker64]

Damnit.

[GBRulz]

Come on harris. That was right to ya

[Rastak]

Bigby knocked Harris off the play....I recall you guys laughing at my squad when that happened. :wink:

[Lurker64]

Poked in the eye? Concussion?

Concussion.

On the radio they're saying eye. I dunno.

[mmmdk]

oh no, not Barnett

I know, it looked better at the end, but he's one of the guys we can't afford to lose.

With Dallas tripping up against Detroit, we have a chance at home field.

I think Packers just needs to get back on track; Raiders ain't even beat.

[Deputy Nutz]

Harris just has to get tougher in that situation, Bigby's silly ass didn't help, but Harris has to go up and get that ball like he is a receiver and not let punk ass Jerry Porter take it away from him.

[Badgerinmaine]

Poked in the eye? Concussion?

Concussion.
Packers radio broadcasters said it's his eye, not a concussion.

[Rastak]

What the hell were they reviewing? Man, the refs are acting pretty strange today.

[mmmdk]

Poked in the eye? Concussion?

Concussion.

On the radio they're saying eye. I dunno.

they were testing his vision on the sideline. Could be right.

[RashanGary]

Harris just has to get tougher in that situation, Bigby's silly ass didn't help, but Harris has to go up and get that ball like he is a receiver and not let punk ass Jerry Porter take it away from him.

I think Bigby scared the shit out of Harris by running in like a little psycho.

[Brohm]

Al has to go after theball in that case, not wait for it to come to him.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Why the hell is Bigby going for the kill shot with his own teammate between him and the receiver? He knocked harris off the ball so Porter could take it away.....

[wpony]

I cant watch the game right now if barnett cant come back in are they going to move Hawk into the MLB ?

[Badgerinmaine]

What the hell were they reviewing? Man, the refs are acting pretty strange today.
Testing to see if Porter went out of bounds before he couahgt it--he didn't and the TD stands.

[FritzDontBlitz]

The prevent defense sucked on that series too....

[gbgary]

porter just made a great play. harris was there. porter is bigger and stronger than harris.

[RashanGary]

Pass rush was non existant. KGB doesn't quite look like himself.

[mmmdk]

Sloppy!

[Rastak]

Kind of a sloppy game but entertaining.

[Rastak]

Sloppy!


HA! Great minds think alike!

[FritzDontBlitz]

I put that Raiders TD drive on Bob Sanders, why go to such soft zone crap when you have been shutting them down the whole first half?

Did Ed Donatell just walk in or something?

[mmmdk]

Dallas was no fluke; Harris is slipping. Harris is ok but shutdown corner!? :roll:

[Rastak]

I put that Raiders TD drive on Bob Sanders, why go to such soft zone crap when you have been shutting them down the whole first half?

Did Ed Donatell just walk in or something?


Actually the Raiders completed a few passes downfield before but penalties, both real and imagined, brought them back.

[RashanGary]

I put that Raiders TD drive on Bob Sanders, why go to such soft zone crap when you have been shutting them down the whole first half?

Did Ed Donatell just walk in or something?

I hear ya. Prevent never works. The offnese has to pass. It' makes their playcalling predictable. Why even the playing field by calling predictable defense?

[DannoMac21]

Touchdown Lions.

Fuck...

you don't want the Lions to win??? :shock:

Sorry, the "Fuck..." was towards the Barnett injury. Should've elaborated...

[GBRulz]

damnit, Dallas just scored.

[mmmdk]

I put that Raiders TD drive on Bob Sanders, why go to such soft zone crap when you have been shutting them down the whole first half?

Did Ed Donatell just walk in or something?

What you say does have merit; Raiders scored TD anyway. Why not blitz - high risk high reward?

[Deputy Nutz]

I put that Raiders TD drive on Bob Sanders, why go to such soft zone crap when you have been shutting them down the whole first half?

Did Ed Donatell just walk in or something?

Harris got whooped in man coverage, he goes up at the highest point and catches that ball then Bigby running in like that has no impact.

Packers need to start playing with a sense of urgency. Inside Oakland Territory three times with no points, giving up a touchdown with 28 seconds left, inexcusable

[Joemailman]

I put that Raiders TD drive on Bob Sanders, why go to such soft zone crap when you have been shutting them down the whole first half?

Did Ed Donatell just walk in or something?

I hear ya. Prevent never works. The offnese has to pass. It' makes their playcalling predictable. Why even the playing field by calling predictable defense?

I think they went dime when Barnett got hurt.

[Lurker64]

I put that Raiders TD drive on Bob Sanders, why go to such soft zone crap when you have been shutting them down the whole first half?

Did Ed Donatell just walk in or something?

What you say does have merit; Raiders scored TD anyway. Why not blitz - high risk high reward?

They brought both Hawk and Barnett on the play Barnett got hurt on. The result? The Raiders throw to the spot vacated by the LBs and move the ball 25 yards downfield.

[Badgerinmaine]

Another good score: Houston is up on Tampa Bay by 7 at the half.

[Badgerinmaine]

Wow--I thought this might be the day Miami broke its losing streak, but Buffalo has already put 31 up on them in the first half.

[FritzDontBlitz]

I put that Raiders TD drive on Bob Sanders, why go to such soft zone crap when you have been shutting them down the whole first half?

Did Ed Donatell just walk in or something?

Harris got whooped in man coverage, he goes up at the highest point and catches that ball then Bigby running in like that has no impact.

Packers need to start playing with a sense of urgency. Inside Oakland Territory three times with no points, giving up a touchdown with 28 seconds left, inexcusable

Agreed.

[mmmdk]

I put that Raiders TD drive on Bob Sanders, why go to such soft zone crap when you have been shutting them down the whole first half?

Did Ed Donatell just walk in or something?

What you say does have merit; Raiders scored TD anyway. Why not blitz - high risk high reward?

They brought both Hawk and Barnett on the play Barnett got hurt on. The result? The Raiders throw to the spot vacated by the LBs and move the ball 25 yards downfield.

Yeah, saw it. But why not bring Woodson and/or Collins on a blitz. Shurmur style.

[mmmdk]

A missed FG try is a momentum swing; punch back I say!

[Rastak]

damnit, Dallas just scored.


Yea Baby! I'm a big Dallas fan, just for this week. Vikes need the Lions to lose.