Look back at 2004 roster

[Patler]

Yes, TT blew up the roster, some by choice, a few by necessity. This is the 2004 roster from packers.com. Bold type designates players still on GB. An asterisk designates a player who I believe collected an NFL paycheck for at least a portion of this season, but not from GB.

Which ones would strengthen todays roster? (Sharper and Wahle are "gimmes")

Barker, Bryan
Barnett, Nick
Barry, Kevin *
Bedell, Brad
Carroll, Ahman
Chatman, Antonio*
Clifton, Chad
Cole, Colin
Davenport, Najeh*
Davis, Rob
Diggs, Na'il*
Driver, Donald
Favre, Brett
Ferguson, Robert *
Fisher, Tony*
Franks, Bubba
Fuller, Curtis
Gbaja-Biamila, Kabeer
Green, AhmanRB *
Harris, Al
Hawthorne, Michael
Henderson, William
Horton, Jason*
Hunt, Cletidus
Jackson, James
Jackson, Grady *
Jenkins, Cullen
Josue, Steve
Jue, Bhawoh*
Kampman, Aaron
Kight, Kelvin
Leach, Vonta *
Lee, James
Lenon, Paris *
Luchey, Nick
Marshall, Torrance
Martin, David *
McHugh, Sean *
Mike, Flanagan *
Nall, Craig
Navies, Hannibal *
O'Sullivan, J.T. *
Pederson, Doug
Peterson, Kenny *
Rivera, Marco
Rogers, Nick
Roman, Mark *
Ruegamer, Grey *
Ryan, Longwell *
Sharper, Darren *
Smith, Larry
Steele, Ben
Tauscher, Mark
Thomas, Joey
Thurman, Andrae
Truluck, R-Kal
Wahle, Mike *
Walker, Javon *
Wells, Scott
Whitley, James
Williams, Corey
Williams, Walt

Name - still with Packers
* - collected an NFL paycheck this season

[MJZiggy]

That right there is a lot of pink slips. You're sure Sharper would make us that much better? He seems to eat a LOT of toast...Feast or famine with him.

[RashanGary]

That roster defines Mike Shermans tenure as GM. He hit a few players (6 or 7 in 4 years), but the big picture, his overall effectiveness, is summed up in this thread.

[Patler]

That right there is a lot of pink slips. You're sure Sharper would make us that much better? He seems to eat a LOT of toast...Feast or famine with him.

Now, now; I said nothing about how much better! :lol:
Sharper would improve our group of safeties, even if he wasn't a starter.

[Patler]

That roster defines Mike Shermans tenure as GM. He hit a few players (6 or 7 in 4 years), but the big picture, his overall effectiveness, is summed up in this thread.

Let's leave Mike Sherman out of it, OK?

Anyone on the roster in 2004 that could help now and isn't here?

Ruegemer as a backup, maybe?

[Patler]

For a playoff run, I might wish we still had Longwell!

[RashanGary]

Let's leave Mike Sherman out of it, OK?


hahaha, deal :)

I'd say Paris Lennon could help. I think he'd be a better use of a roster spot than Craig Nall.

[RashanGary]

I'd rather have Davenport than Morency too.

[Patler]

Let's leave Mike Sherman out of it, OK?


hahaha, deal :)

I'd say Paris Lennon could help. I think he'd be a better use of a roster spot than Craig Nall.

The Packers are extremely thin at LB. Lennon would be a good addition.

[Patler]

I'd rather have Davenport than Morency too.

I'm real indifferent about Davenport. Just when you need him he seems to be hurt. He has been dinged up with Pittsburgh even without playing a lot. Of course so has Morrency.

[pacfan]

I would say that Flanagan and Wahle would improve the OL.

Davenport would give better depth at RB than what we have now.

Sharper at S, maybe Diggs at a back-up LB spot.

Ruegamer was just a thug, I don't think he would function with this scheme

...and I miss William Henderson.

Its amazing how many of those players are out of football.

[RashanGary]

Hard to believe that team was a playoff team. That was the last year the Oline was together and Green had his last spectacular year. Javon also came on that year and then proceeded to be injured for the last 3 years on and off. That was Brett's last good year before the team crumbled around him too.

They had a few aging players that they counted on but no depth. The team today seems much stronger top to bottom. Looking at this roster gives me some optimism for our playoff chances. There are teams in the playoffs that are much less complete (offnese, defense, ST's).

[The Leaper]

For a playoff run, I might wish we still had Longwell!

Longwell is a more reliable kicker...although he's not much use outside of 50 yards anymore. In Lambeau, in January, he might not be any good outside of 40 yards.

[The Leaper]

Hard to believe that team was a playoff team.

Take a look at some of those NFC North rosters outside of Green Bay from 2002-2004, and you'll better understand why we made the playoffs so easily.

Some of those teams will surprise you that they were NFL teams.

[Brohm]

I would take the 4th and 5th round picks for R-Kal Truluck for 800 Alex....

Diggs and Davenport I think would help, along with Wahle and Sharper.

[BallHawk]

Let's leave Mike Sherman out of it, OK?


hahaha, deal :)

I'd say Paris Lennon could help. I think he'd be a better use of a roster spot than Craig Nall.

The Packers are extremely thin at LB. Lennon would be a good addition.

If he could learn how to fall on ball when it's a fumble..... :evil:

[hurleyfan]

Let's leave Mike Sherman out of it, OK?


hahaha, deal :)

I'd say Paris Lennon could help. I think he'd be a better use of a roster spot than Craig Nall.

The Packers are extremely thin at LB. Lennon would be a good addition.

If he could learn how to fall on ball when it's a fumble..... :evil:

Bastard :(

[CaliforniaCheez]

One of the more interesting aspects of the thread is that the scouting staff is essentially unchanged.

The information is the same but the decisions are better.

[The Leaper]

The information is the same but the decisions are better.

Decisions are better...and there are more chances to make decisions. I'm not sure Thompson hits on his picks significantly more than Sherman did...I believe he does to a slight extent, but not overly so. The issue with Sherman was that he threw away picks foolishly trying to land certain guys...which isn't smart when the draft is mostly a crap shoot.

[Jerry Tagge]

For a playoff run, I might wish we still had Longwell!
Longwell used to miss easy FG's and blame the holder. He would hit one at the end of the game to win it and everybody thought he was clutch.

Ryan Longwell is the biggest fraud since Kevin Butler. He was the same way with the Bears.

Longwell might have been 0-for-3 on Sunday. He certainly would have missed the 52 yarder Crosby missed.

[Jerry Tagge]

Kevin Barry would be nice to have on the bench. Grey Ruegamer could play both guard and center. Najeh Davenport would be a good addition considering Grant is the only RB that can stay healthy. Then again, Najeh couldn't stay healthy either.

Honestly, I wouldn't take anyone from the 2004 roster that's not on the team today. Wahle isn't setting the world on fire and Sharper was always overrated. He's afraid of contact. Packers DB's can't be afraid of contact with the scheme they play.

[Guiness]

A few names on there that I think could help us...

Guard play has been better with Colledge on the bench, but I certainly think Barry or Ruegamer could help. No depth there at all, and I'm not so sure one of those guys wouldn't be better than who we have starting now. I seem to remember the Barry experiment at guard failed, so maybe Ruegamer would be a better choice.

I would like to have Davenport - Grant is carrying the load, but I sure am happy he hasn't been starting all season...he's not a rookie, but I think he might run out of gas playing his first full season. And he's been pretty good in Pitt.

As others have mentioned, Diggs or Lenon would be nice. I think I'd go with Lenon because of his special teams play.

Someone else who didn't get a mention was David Martin. He's doing pretty well in Miami with no one to throw him the ball...his numbers are close to Lee's, which is pretty good on that team! He's stayed on the field again this year as well. This one's a toss up though, because would you really want to get rid of either Franks or Lee for him?

Longwell...I guess I'd like him because 'he's been there'. But only if we kept Crosby as a kick-off specialist.

Of course, JWalk. Love him or hate him, and I don't care how good our WRs look right now, he'd be an upgrade (ignoring his current injury, of course...)