Any Tips???

[GrnBay007]

...On cooking Prime Rib? I've never made it before and am giving it a shot for Christmas Eve dinner.

Appreciate any tips/helpful hints.....

[MJZiggy]

...On cooking Prime Rib? I've never made it before and am giving it a shot for Christmas Eve dinner.

Appreciate any tips/helpful hints.....

Hire a caterer to do it? Seriously, that's a tough one. How big is it?

[GrnBay007]

How big is it?

No idea. I just called the trusty butcher and told him I needed enough for 7 people and would like some left overs. Picking it up tomorrow.

[MJZiggy]

I have 4 different recipes in my cookbook depending on where the cut is taken from, the only thing common between them is that you need to make sure to ask the butcher to remove the chine bone or you won't be able to cut it.

[packinpatland]

Make good use of that meat thermometer!

[Joemailman]

Just serve plenty of liquor before dinner and everything will be fine.

[the_idle_threat]

Sorry, I have never cooked Prime Rib, although I sure do like to eat it! :jig:

My dad does Prime Rib every year, though, and from what I remember he swears by what he calls the Martha Stewart method. This involves baking at lower heat for most of the time, but broiling for a very short time to give the meat a good crust.

Good tips from Martha Stewart's website:

"To ensure even cooking, roast must first be left at room temperature for about two hours before being placed in the oven. Do not use a nonstick pan for this recipe; it will yield fewer cooked-on bits of flavorful juices."

http://www.marthastewart.com/portal/site/mslo/menuitem.fc77a0dbc44dd1611e3bf410b5900aa0/?vgnextoid=c9b840ee0c90f010VgnVCM1000003d370a0aRCR D&vgnextfmt=default

In this write-up, she starts by cooking for 20 minutes at 450 and then lowers the heat to 325 for the remainder of the time, using a meat thermometer to measure if it's done rather than a set time. It calls for baking rather than broiling in that first 20 minutes.

From reading this recipe, and from seeing my dad do it, it's not too tough to do: basically you put on a pretty heavy crust of seasoning on the outside of the roast, and bake it. Not too bad.

Generally speaking, you cook the whole roast to medium rare or so, and then if anyone perfers their serving more well done than that, you put individual portions in a frying pan with some au jus gravy and cook to desired doneness. They used to do that at the restaurant where I worked, and my dad has done that too.

From another article:

"NOTE: If you ignore every other bit of advice I've given, please pay attention to this. For a perfectly cooked rib roast, invest in a good meat thermometer. Internal temperature, not time, is the best test for doneness and you don't want to blow this meal!"

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Beef/ClassicPrimeRib.htm

Good luck!

[Tarlam!]

Ya also wann place a pot of water at the bottom o0f the oven. This will ensure the air is moist.

What's even better is baking wrap, but I don't know if you guys have that.

It's a plastic tube that's designed to bake stuff in. That is unbelievable!

[MJZiggy]

We have baking bags. Same concept?

[Bretsky]

slow cook that puppy so it's incredibly tender. Takes a while but I think my pops cooks it on 250

Be sure to make some mean adjus and it'll be awesome

[Harlan Huckleby]

not to jinx you, but I had my first and only bad experience with prime rib a month ago. Probably it is my own fault, I ordered it at 4PM like a senior citizen out on a Saturday night.

I asked for rare. That piece of meat could not have been dead for more than half an hour. I mean, it was not hot, it was oozing with warm blood. Disgusting!

I sent it back to be reheated. They immediately came back with a new cut, which made me wonder what happened to the piece I just took a bite out of. Perhaps it went to the next senior citizen through the door.

The next piece was cooked to pass health inspection standards, but it was tough and not at all juicy. I was too big of a pussy to raise a fuss, I just wanted my freedom.

The horror! Prime rib exists in my mind as something sacred, perhaps the second greatest pleasure in life.

I think idle's suggesting of braizing the meat at high temperature to get a crust, and then cooking slowly makes great sense. The crust will seal-in the juices. I'm getting hungry.

[retailguy]

007 don't despair! Prime Rib is the easiest thing in the world to cook. Really. My wife has made this multiple times for 50-75 people for our church dinners. (By popular vote, we NEVER serve spaghetti or anything similar....)

Here is the recipe she uses. follow the directions exactly and your dinner will be a hit.... Trust me. :wink:


http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,,FOOD_9936_29348,00.html

[LL2]

007.....Can we come over too?

[GrnBay007]

Thanks Idle and Retail!

I saw that recipe on foodnetwork.com and wondered about it. Sounds good with the horseradish.


LL2....I'll practice on family first. :D

[packinpatland]

I want complete details afterwards. I'd like to have the same thing New Years Day......................take copius notes!

[Scott Campbell]

Tarlam's right about the water in the oven. They make special commercial ovens for cooking prime rib in restaurants that introduce moisture into the baking chamber. Some meat purveyors also will provide and extra layer of fat tied on to the roast with a cheese cloth net for a little added flavor.

I call the end cut.

[retailguy]

Thanks Idle and Retail!

I saw that recipe on foodnetwork.com and wondered about it. Sounds good with the horseradish.


LL2....I'll practice on family first. :D

It's amazing. You'll never eat it another way after trying it....

good luck.

[Bretsky]

Thanks Idle and Retail!

I saw that recipe on foodnetwork.com and wondered about it. Sounds good with the horseradish.


LL2....I'll practice on family first. :D


Horseradish ? How can somebody ruin a good tender prime rib with that stuff ?
Gotta have the au jus sauce

[the_idle_threat]

Watched the game with my dad today, and asked him about this. My recollections were correct except for one thing: when he starts the roast at 450, he still bakes rather than broils. The broiling thing was a figment of my imagination. Then he drops the temp down to slow cook. He said it's the easiest thing in the world to cook. Just gotta watch the temp and not overcook.

[Tarlam!]

We have baking bags. Same concept?

Yeah, same thing. Seven, you MUST use one of those. That way, Bretsky's idea of au jus will work out great, too.

Put the roast in the bag with whole garlic cloves, sweated chopped oninons, carrots and celery (without colouring - it's called a moire poix), 1/2 Cup of red wine (why waste more than that?), parsly stalks, bay leaf, fresh thyme. Seal the bag and try and arrange it on a baking tray so that the moire poix and wine is below the meat.


High heat for 10-15 minutes to seal in the juices, then slow roast at mid heat.

Let it sit for 10 minuts before you carve. If you must, thicken the juice with corn starch.

BTW, I am a trained Chef, so you take my word for it, this will taste yummy.

[Tarlam!]

I just saw that other recipe! Rosmary? With Beef??

That's some sick stuff right there. A leg of lamb, sure.

[retailguy]

Thanks Idle and Retail!

I saw that recipe on foodnetwork.com and wondered about it. Sounds good with the horseradish.


LL2....I'll practice on family first. :D


Horseradish ? How can somebody ruin a good tender prime rib with that stuff ?
Gotta have the au jus sauce


:P You really don't like change, do you?


B, it forms a 'crust'. You can still have your au jus.... You won't need it, but you can still have it. :wink:

[retailguy]

well, how did it go, and what did you do?

[the_idle_threat]

well, how did it go, and what did you do?

2nded. :D

[GrnBay007]

It was wonderful!! I followed the recipe from foodnetwork but I did start it out at a higher temp for a bit and then lowered it (because my sister told me that's what she has done). I went with 450 for 15 min. to sear it and then turned it down to 325. I believe that recipe was for medium-rare at an internal temp of 125 but my thermometer said 130 was medium-rare. I didn't want it that rare so I went to about 135. I knew nobody that would be eating it would want it rare. And one of those sites you guys gave me said to set it out ahead of time so it was more room temp at cooking time. I did that as well, but had no idea how long it would take so I may not have had it out long enough to get exactly room temp.

Anyway it was a great x-mas eve dinner. Only way it could have been better was for my brother to be there. It was our first Christmas without him. :(

I've heard of cooking other meats in a bag and they've turned out wonderful, but not prime rib. I don't think you can get that outer crust (hate to call it crust...sounds bad) cooking it in a bag.

[packinpatland]

I love success stories :wink: ......................good job!!!

[Iron Mike]

You had a Christmas/Christmas Eve meal and DIDN'T have ham???? :doh:

WTF, are you from Iowa or something??? :roll:

[Scott Campbell]

It was wonderful!!


Excellent!



Any leftovers to feed the Rats?

[GrnBay007]

Any leftovers to feed the Rats?

I sent most of them home with others. :D

[packinpatland]

You're saying that...... just to make sure Scott doesn't show up, right? :wink:

[GrnBay007]

You're saying that...... just to make sure Scott doesn't show up, right? :wink:

:oops:




:wink:

[the_idle_threat]

Glad to hear everything went well. And now everyone thinks you're a master chef because you cooked the fancy meal, and it's your secret 'tween you and the 'rats that it really wasn't very difficult at all. :mrgreen: :five:

I'm hungry just reading about this. Good thing my dad's doing this meal on New Year's day. Can't wait ... :wave:

[retailguy]

You had a Christmas/Christmas Eve meal and DIDN'T have ham???? :doh:

WTF, are you from Iowa or something??? :roll:


Prime Rib....


It's the NEW ham.... :wink:

Congrats 007, we had ours on Christmas Day. 15lb roast, it was wonderful.

[Scott Campbell]

You're saying that...... just to make sure Scott doesn't show up, right? :wink:




Good point - I'm not nearly this well mannered in person.

:lol:

[GrnBay007]

You had a Christmas/Christmas Eve meal and DIDN'T have ham???? :doh:

WTF, are you from Iowa or something??? :roll:

LOL

My sister had ham yesterday....the good kind with the bone in. She is bringing the bone to me today so I can make Ham/Bean/Potato soup. mmmm! I'm off work recovering from a surgery and I think I've broken every Dr.'s order so far. I just love to cook when I have the TIME. Unfortunately working 40+ hrs. a week and the kids in sports normally doesn't allow me to spend much time in the kitchen. So I'm taking advantage of my time off.

[Tarlam!]

I've heard of cooking other meats in a bag and they've turned out wonderful, but not prime rib. I don't think you can get that outer crust (hate to call it crust...sounds bad) cooking it in a bag.

Yeah, you can. You just take it out of the bag, let it sit for 5 and fire up the oven hig´h as it goes and pop it back in for 10. Voila - a CRUST. It aint too thick either, or too black. Less weight loss of the product, too.

Main thing is, you got it done and it was good! WELL DONE!!

[Little Whiskey]

kinda funny we used the same recipe for our christmas dinner too. it was outstanding!!!

my wife also made the potatoes and onions that are listed below the rib recipe. potatoes really good, onions just okay.