Agree completely. He hasn't been the player they are writing about.
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Does this mean they keep seven, or is Guion's spot in jeopardy?
Like Colt, those players passed through waivers. I'm pretty sure you can put a player directly on IR as part of the cut down to 65, not just after that point. Even if they could reach a settlement for say 8 weeks, with the 6 week delay after that, at best he could practice the last 2 weeks plus playoffs on the PS, and would be somewhat more likely to end up on some other team's PS.
He was passed on due to character issues, so if some other team felt they were sorted out and his talent was worth a flier pay for a year of IR, they could have picked him up. Clearly none did, but the question remains as to why he was exposed to wavers at this time.
True, there was another Packer in 2010 who wouldn't settle and then complained that the Packers didn't bother giving him a ring after hanging about on IR the whole year. Never heard from him again after that.
I'm not sure at all on this, but I think it depends on whether the player is a vested veteran (4 years) or not. Vested veterans can be put on IR at anytime, I think, but the nonvested players have to go through waivers at least early in camp. I think that is why Barclay is still on the roster. If they waived him now, someone would likely grab him. They will hold him on the roster until they can move him directly to IR.
I don't think they wanted to lose Lyerla, but they were willing to take the chance. It becomes a numbers game at this point with the first cutdown coming up. No body is looking to add long-shot development guys at this time of the year, so the chance of anyone claiming Lyerla was small. No body else wanted him when he was healthy, why would they claim him now?
This was pointed out in the roster thread. They might put Guion on that limited IR. You can activate one player that you put on that list after 8 ball games. That might be a good move, altho I'd think he'd be ready a lot sooner than that.
There's also the financial consideration, he'd be paid his contract salary while on IR.
They can conserve the short term IR spot for another player by simply keeping Guion ad stated above.
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First cuts announced: CB Antonio Dennard, WR Chris Harper, LB Korey Jones, FB Ina Liaina, QB Chase Rettig and WR Gerrard Sheppard.
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Casey Hayward back for the Packers. Missed Friday's game.
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JC Tretter not here. Rookie Corey Linsley replacing him with the one's. Tretter was banged up early vs Oak, but kept playing.
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Micah Hyde with a tough break-up in back of the end zone on a pass to Ryan Taylor. Looks like he'll be the safety with Burnett still.
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Brandon Bostick throwing the ball around with Quarless. He's off the crutches.
Aug. 24, 2014
I just heard on ESPN Radio (John Clayton reporting) that JC Tretter has a significant knee injury and will be out a while. Not sure what that means, but paging Corey Linsley. Curious to know if Garth (don't call me Toby) Gerhart was taking any reps at Center in practice.
Also, any news on Brad Jones injury?
Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 58m
With Tretter out, Linsley has gotten the first rep at center. But #Packers also have had Sitton at center and Lane Taylor at left guard.
I almost wonder if this is a typo or if it was Sitton not Lang getting reps.
Packer Report @PackerReport 32m
McCarthy on injuries: Jones (quad) not ready for KC; Raji (biceps) surgery; Tretter (significant knee injury) will be multiple weeks.
Packer Report @PackerReport 28m
McCarthy not worried "today" for Brad Jones' availability vs. Seattle.
MM:
Hard to say, but last year when EDS had to come out of a couple games, Lang played Center.Quote:
On Lang/Sitton at guard... You have to always train three centers. That will never change. Since 2006, the guards have always been trained at center. You do so much shotgun. Playing in the stadium we'll be playing in Week 1; communication that goes on, guards a big part of that.
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McCarthy: I thought Derek (Sherrod) got better. He took another step. I like the way he graded out. Some of our young guys improved.
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McCarthy: Letroy Guion is getting better. He's getting close.
Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 31m
McCarthy says Raji is not a candidate for IR with the designation to return. Will have surgery soon, he says. #Packers
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Guards always trained to play center, MM said. Both took reps at practice.
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McCarthy not worried "today" for Brad Jones' availability vs. Seattle.
I wonder what the rotation will be at ILB without Brad Jones - obviously Lattimore and Barrington with Hawk, but beyond that, do we finally see Bradford there? Or a lot more of Hubbard (I think he played ILB last week), maybe the wet dream of us posters, Sean Richardson playing there?
Barrington, as he was in the previous two games, looks to be the #1 sub. Lattimore after him.
If an OLB moves, he will go to the end of the end of the depth chart. Offseason prep is 80% over.
Richardson isn't going to see ILB this year unless a boulder falls on the first string defense in its entirety.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/new-p...272512451.html
I have not seen Dunne refer to the Packer and Caper Defense in this way. I wonder if this is Guion's terminology for it. We might be overestimating the penetrating part of the change. Might simply be more consistent one gap.Quote:
The Packers' 3-4 is more of a "flat" scheme but Guion believes his "attack-and-react" style will translate to nose tackle.
I'm not so sure that Barrington has moved ahead of Lattimore. I read somewhere that seemed to indicate Lattimore would be the top backup. I think Lattimore rebounded with a better game. He can cover. I think he was a little lax in the first two games, and I criticized him for it. I would think Lattimore would be the guy to replace Jones and Barrington would be the guy to replace Hawk.
I wonder if the players the Packers cut now either are 1) not eligible for the practice squad based on service time (Harper) or 2) the team's indication that these players were not candidates for the practice squad.
Harper should be PS eligible. (edit: the Urinal scented is saying he is http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/272495891.html)
He'll have an accrued season towards FA, but he has to be on the game day roster 9 times for it to count wrt practice squad for it to affect his eligibility. Even if he was (I doubt it but didn't check) the new rules allow there to be up to two players who do have an accrued season on the PS.
I'm not sure he's in the conversation though. He didn't even make it past the first cuts, in the past the TT seems to sign a couple of bubble players to the PS, and brings in a couple late cuts from other teams.
Then they are trying to up Barrington's profile because he has gone in first in both the last two games. Could be to get tape against better players, but usually that means they want to see how he projects.
But as we have seen before, the Packers do stick with known commodities at times when there is not a clear winner.
Nope. They don't all pass through waivers. Now, I've seen the vested veteran rules, and they clearly make sense. But the Jets rookie has been reported specifically as not going through waivers before heading to IR. I don't know what to make of it.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...jured-reserve/
OK, I'm officially confused now if the article is correct.
It was reported immediately by some that the Packers wanted to put Lyerla on IR, but that he had to clear waivers first.
I don't understand why they have delayed putting Barclay and Abbredaris on IR, two players they clearly do not want to lose in waivers. Both are headed to surgery if not already operated on. Why the delay?
A lot of people do not really understand the rules with respect to preseason injured reserve. That isn't limited to the amateurs.
Maybe its only preventative.
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Here's Linsley. Has some type of brace around his arm.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bv5k3F4CMAENpQl.jpg
Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 57m
Letroy Guion's first training camp practice. At 6-4, he's taller than everyone else on the D-Line. pic.twitter.com/pBTPg2SV9P
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bv5lVTTIAAAbT63.jpg
Are you sure because it seems to me that they come in at the same time. JSO indicated today that Lattimore is the first option in base and Barrington in dime. Perhaps with Jones out, the first play was dime, so Barrington would come in first. You would think Lattimore would be better in coverage, but he's had his problems this preseason.
Its possible, though I am certain Barrngton went in first when BJones went out versus the Raiders, unless Lattimore went in for a snap or two and then came out for some reason. It could have been nickel, but cannot have been dime because both he and Hawk were out there.
In Rams game, I might have missed some Lattimore snaps, my memory is not as specific about when the subs went in.
Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 1h
#Packers DNPs:
R.Neal
Goodson
Thomas
B.Jones
Barclay
Tiller
Tretter
Abbrederis
Bostick
Raji
Twitter highlights:
-Guion practiced in full, including some half line drill.
-Sitton was at center, including half line drill as one of the backups (not sure about Lang)
-Lattimore was in red zone D with #1, but it was an odd mix. According to Twitter, neither Shields nor Tramontana were out there, it was all safeties including Bush.
-Just to confuse the issue, both Bradford and Palmer got snaps at ILB.
Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
Hello, Letroy Guion. Blows up the O-Line in half line (the back-ups) to take down Perkins for a 5-yard loss. The guy is fresh.
#savior :lol: