when a lot of people start to really like a guy, that means he's gonna get drafted higher. i've seen a few drafts that have him going around our pick at #14
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Moore and Chark tested better than they played. I'm not sure either put enough on film to move into round 1, but I guess it only takes one team enamored with the measurables. I'd be shocked if Moore went anywhere near pick #14 personally. I think two underrated WRs are Michael Gallup and Tre'Quan Smith. Gallup in round 2-3. Smith in round 3-4. Those two are football players. Smith reminds me a bit of Davante Adams. Pretty comparable measurables too.
Adams = 6'1" 212, 4.56 40, 4.30 shuttle, 6.83 3 cone, 39 1/2" vertical, 123" broad jump
Smith = 6'2" 210, 4.49 40, 4.50 shuttle, 6.97 3 cone, 37 1/2" vertical, 130" broad jump
Gallup = 6'1" 205, 4.51 40, 4.37 shuttle, 6.95 3 cone, 36" vertical, 122" broad jump
I think both Smith and Gallup are a little underrated athletically.
Yeah, it's not like the season-ending injuries had any effect. Still, in his full rb year, he had 56 targets in the passing game to 77 rushes. He had almost 6 yards/rush compared to around 8 yards/catch and 800 total yards from scrimmage. I suppose he missed out of some refinement in back shoulder throws or something, but I imagine he can catch up, given his ability to transition to a role coming out of the backfield so readily. I'm more concerned about his overall productivity. It seems like a guy with his combination of size and speed makes for more of a utility type receiver out of the backfield than say a deep downfield threat.
Get a load of this MOCK Draft:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...ds-josh-rosen/
NFL Mock Draft 2018: Browns trade pick to Cardinals; Jets' big move lands Josh Rosen
After Gang Green's aggressive trade up with the Colts, the quarterbacks fly off the board early
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14. Green Bay Packers
Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame. With McGlinchey at right tackle and the vastly underrated David Bakhtiari on the left side, the Packers will boast two quality pass-protectors for Aaron Rodgers.
If Gute drafts a fat guy in round 1, I'm gonna puke.
Color me with those who subscribe to the notion that fat guys should be avoided like the plague in round 1. An offensive lineman by himself is not a difference maker. Even with a great LT, defenses can still pressure the QB simply by pressuring away from the LT. Fat defensive linemen are prone to eating themselves out of the league.
Good. Lord. Since we are not really doing much of anything in free agency, there is so much work that needs to be done in the draft. We also need some of our players to actually step up and produce (see Josh Jones). If not, our defense could be the new definition for "epic bad." Definitely would make sense to me to trade up to make sure we get that impact player or players we need (see Ward or James)
Patience, still two guys left people are salivating over:
Aaron Wilson @AaronWilson_NFL
Former Rice cornerback Phillip Gaines visited the Colts
He will be your favorite if you like players coming back from knee injuries.
And of course, once his heel heals and the infection is gone, Breeland is still out there.
In other infectious news, Bob Uecker was bitten by a Recluse Spider in Arizona last winter. Wound got infected and they had to remove infected tissue and leave the wound open to draw out the rest. Think it was on his leg.
Prior to fast medical response with effective antibiotics (Ueck waited four days before seeing the Doc), this was a common way to deal with infection in skin tissues. If you've ever seen someone treated in this manner, its both slightly morbid and fascinating.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sport...ter/433845002/
Check out the fat guys Todd drafted in round 1:
Harrell: Arguably the worst draft pick in Packer history.
Raji: Inspiring for season or two, but a JAG the majority of the time before quitting.
Sherrod: Injury-prone and incompetent.
Bulaga: Injury-prone.
Clark: Started to show some promises, but jury's still out on him.
The moral of Todd's story is, don't draft fat guys in round 1. If a good fat guy is there in rd 2 or later, fine. But in round 1, give me a finesse player.
Jury isn't out on Clark. He was great last year and very effective as a rookie.
Love that the only comment on Bulaga is injury prone and not Pro Bowl level RT. :roll:
And Harrell has nothing on Rich Campbell.
Well is it Campbell or Mandarich, someone start a poll!
I'd have to go with Mandarich, simply b/c of who we passed over to take him. The next 3 players were all Hall of Famers.
Barry Sanders
Derrick Thomas
Deion Sanders
I wanted Thomas out of that group - would have been okay with Barry. Didn't want Deion b/c of the punk factor.
I could see them sign House and draft 3 CBs -- like they did with RBs last year -- and putting the best of them out there by week 4. Assuming Pettine can manufacture a pass rush and House can stay healthy, he's an ok stopgap. A lot hinges on Kevin King being passable as well.
Clark controlled the line of scrimmage much of the season. He held his gap. In 3-4 your nose needs to control the line, and make things bounce outside of the a gaps. He was very effective at what he does. For fools like you it is too bad the NFL doesn't keep stats on disruptions of running plays.
I think we are talking about two different skills. I am talking about identifying the runner and giving chase down the line. Clark can still get hung up on blocks and is not fantastic as a pass rusher, though he did get better with his bull rush. But he can defend a gap, win a one on one and not get rolled by double teams.
Not bad for the late 1st round. I don't know if he's All Pro, but he will do nicely.
He got better late in the year, but up until then he never got off blocks. RBs were constantly running right past him as he was dancing around with the blocker.
To tell you the truth, I thought he looked so bad that there was no hope for him; but, as he seemed to begin to get things figured out late in the year - I at least see some upside there finally. Up until late last season, he had been consistently bad since being drafted.
Clark had several good games early in the season. A good run stopper doesn't always get the tackle credited. I don't know what you were watching.
His pass rush showed up later in the year, as it developed, he saw more time in the nickel pass rush DT position. But that doesn't have much to do with his overall level of play or getting off blocks.
I'm the first to argue that dunderdummy was the biggest problem with the defense, but that doesn't mean that there weren't, and aren't deficient players on that side of the ball.
Capers 2-4, which is nowhere near akin to a 4-2 as you like to claim, was a mess. If Clark can pick up where he left off, he'll be a serviceable rotation guy. Getting rid of Randall will help a lot, and I suspect Ryan will be on the field a lot less. Hopefully some better coaching will help Martinez improve...
Overall, I'm encouraged that the defense will be much improved.
A guy I like a lot as a player, but has a 10 cent head and character issues is Holton Hill, CB, Texas.
Guy can play, good size... failed multiple drug tests.