If he’s a bad qb - wouldn’t we want him to go to the Vikes?
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If he’s a bad qb - wouldn’t we want him to go to the Vikes?
Even though tex is convinced Aaron has 5 good years left he is clearly past his due date. If he gets in great shape he can go to Minnesota and make us sorry about it for maybe 10 weeks at which point the rigors of an NFL season will wear him down and they will collapse. I loved Aaron, but time to hang it up. But I don't blame him if someone wants to hand him even a "low" $20 million to play this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fosco33
Exactly my sentiment.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobblehead
Can’t blame anyone who wants to get paid. Not sure why he’d need any more money - drugs are pretty cheap as are girlfriends compared to medical bills and spouses.
What I read this morning is that it'd be approximately the same that Sam Darnold would've been making - around $33 mill.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobblehead
So that brings up a question that none of us could've envisioned six or so years ago: who would you rather have at QB, if the money's the same: Sam Darnold or Aaron Rodgers?
That’s a pretty easy question.
If I were a Vikings fan, I would rather have Darnold.
It leaves me to believe the Rodgers to Vikings talk is a lot of self-generated nonsense.
This is the one time I am rooting for the vikings….
Rastak will probably throw up when it happens! :lol:
I HATE the idea of Rodgers going to the Vikings. Mark my words, he's gonna have a decent season by the standard of just about any other QB, maybe not up to his own career standards, but damn good anyway. For that matter, by any regular QB standards, he was a little above average even last year, just not up to his own expected level.
They're saying he "ghosted" the Steelers and Giants? I think he's holding out for some huge amount of money with the idea that if nobody wants to pay it, he'll just retire.
I highly doubt it will happen. If it does, I'd be extremely disappointed in the front office.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadtownPacker
At this point of his life, frogskins ain’t an issue, homie. Butte has more frogskins in the bank than Fosco, Bobble and O’Day have combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker
Butte wants to be more than a 1 hit wonder. Between the Gee Men, Lumpensteelers and Queens, Queens appear to be the more talented roster. It’s all about the ring at this stage of his career.
Go, Butte, and be a Queen!
Some would say he already acts like one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear
So the same as every year pretty much. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rastak
I agree with your other posts where you’re said he played decent last year. I thought he did too and you know I don’t like his ass. I just wanna see the shit show for the fun. What’s the worst that can happen, another NFCC loss?
Diva man a diva.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz
I think O'Connell could get something out of Rodgers, with Jonesy at RB and Jefferson, Addison and Hockenson at skill positions... as someone said, at least for the first 10 weeks. Older players get hurt, as do those with injury histories. The Vikings have had to sign a lot of players because their drafts have not been great, and they also have given away a lot of their picks this year. They lost a lot of starter snaps this offseason, including Darnold's. I wonder how long it will take for all those players to get on the same page, and an old, my-way-or-highway QB like Rodgers might make that worse.
I have to think the talks with Rodgers says something about JJ McCarthy as well.
if MIN goes that route, I don't see it ending well for them.
PIT isn't a bad landing place IMO. They have a young good OL and Metcalf, Pickens and Friermuth to throw to, plus a good defense and smart coach.
I'd avoid NYG, especially if legacy is as important to Rodgers as people say.
The folks saying Butte is toasted obviously ain’t ran good at the poker tables to shell out frogskins for the Sunday Ticket. Watching the Jesters from afar on the YouTube app, I saw a QB, while his overall kung fu ain’t what it was in his heyday, who could still slang a rock over them mountains. Butte’s struggles had more to do with that subpar Jesters OL than the chemical phenomenon that causes bread to “toast.”Quote:
Originally Posted by run pMc
Queens OL appears to be prodigious. If the bum Darnold could do what he did last season with that offense, imagine what Butte could do. The wrath of Butte in the Purple and Blonde would be as remarkable as that of Daenerys Targaryen at King’s Landing.
ESPN reporting Vikings not pursuing Rodgers.
And life returns to being a beautiful mystery.
This is the best news I've heard - if true. Rodgers is gonna be damn good wherever he goes, barring serious injury, and I prefer that it not be our most hated enemy the God damned Vikings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joemailman
Rodgers hasn't been "damn good" for a number of years and isn't likely to ever be so again. He maybe can be productive on a team with a strong running game, but he his game no longer has any depth to it. His AY/A in each of 2022 and 2024 were the lowest of his career since he became a starter and were a yard and a half less than his career average.Quote:
Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker
Would hope AR just retires. Seeing him as a steeler would be mildly entertaining as they are my ‘afc’ team that’s least hated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joemailman
By the standard of any QB other than himself, Rodgers was good last season. Brady was still good to an age several years more than Rodgers. It's more than likely that Rodgers' expected level would be what Brady was at the same age or better. Why wouldn't that be the expectation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Patler
Agree MIN is trying to improve the OL. Darnold is/was much more mobile than Rodgers though. he got flushed out of the pocket several times against Gb and other teams and hurt them scrambling for first downs. Rodgers days of doing that are gone.Quote:
Queens OL appears to be prodigious. If the bum Darnold could do what he did last season with that offense, imagine what Butte could do.
Sure Rodgers had a bad OL in NYJ - I've been saying he'd struggle with that line since he was traded there - but his ADOT and ANY/A weren't that great, and it took him something like 30+ games to crack 300 yards passing. His arm still is good, but with aging QBs it's usually not the arm that's the problem. It's they can't move in the pocket anymore and don't like being hit, and when they do get hit (and get hit more often) they get hurt more easily.
I also think Rodgers is very set in his ways about what kind of offense he wants to run, and how much autonomy he has at the LOS to audible. Even in a QB friendly system KOC runs there would be a lot of friction. (ex. bye bye pre-snap motion.)
If the Vikes re no longer interested, my guess is it's because the mental makeup and salary demands weren't worth it.
Said it a dozen times already, he was a great great player, but he ain't a great player anymore.
He would ruin Minny the same way he ruined the Jets, why wouldn't we want him to go there?
He's toxic AF and Gute was right to dump him when he did.
That’s what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Cumby
Folks that don’t want that then have to admit he ‘may’ have gas in the tank or are worried about some Viking/packer legacy stuff. In practical matters - only next season matters.
What you are actually saying, but can't seem to admit to yourself, is that Rodgers is no longer "special" as a starting QB. He has joined that group of QBs you often refer to as "others". Given that he no longer brings anything special, why should I or any other Packer fan care who he plays for?Quote:
Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker
Narrator: he did not have a good year by any standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker
Rodgers was 30th in passing yards per attempt, 13th in TD%, 17th in INT%, 34th in completion pct., 22nd in passer rating, 31st in QBR. He did get better second half of the season with Adams, but the greatness is gone.
So we can watch him fail miserably!Quote:
Originally Posted by Patler
Kevin Seifert
@SeifertESPN
Continuing to report out the Vikings' QB situation. Added some information to our story. The decision is to give J.J. McCarthy as many reps this spring as possible. If Aaron Rodgers is needed later for some reason and is available, he will be revisited.
So much irrational hate in here for somebody who gave us all so much enjoyment for so long hahahaha. I'd call it "Rodgers Derangement Syndrome".
And how exactly did Butte ruin the Jesters? Jesters were toothless long before Butte. Butte didn’t ruin anything - if anything, he failed to change that culture of toothlessness.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Cumby
And how exactly is Butte toxic? Seeking alternative medicine, drinking psychedelic tea and hiding in the dark - all in the name of killing the ego and seeking love - ain’t in any shape, form, matter or anti-matter toxic, hombre.
In restless dreams, Butte walks alone on narrow streets of cobblestone. “Fools,” he says. "You do not know…Hear my words that I might teach you. Take my arms that I might reach you.”
If you believe the common narrative Jets were supposed to be a solid team with a great defense, some promising pieces on offense that was being killed by poor QB play. When Rodgers signed people were talking about Superbowl aspirations. I don't think that's completely accurate, but the team wasn't viewed as toothless by many. After Rodgers, they are starting over with a whole new coaching staff, his dead salary. They are worse than when he joined.
So while Rodgers didn't ruin the Jets, he also didn't come close to the expectations.
You forgot to mention everyone else that ARod brought to NY.Quote:
Originally Posted by sharpe1027
ARod - $23,000,000
Devante - $8,362,000
Lazard (Still on the roster at this point) - $13,184,000
That's $44.5 M in dead or wasted cap space for the Jets this year becasue of the ARod experiment.
What is this reality where I'm bashing K-aaron and you're defending him? LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear
Bring back Harambe.
Oh man. I agree w/ tank on something. Shit.
:doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fosco33
Gerry Dulac
@gerrydulac
BREAKING: Aaron Rodgers is at the Steelers facility today, an indication a deal with the team could be forthcoming, per sources.
You forgot that they also brought in Nathaniel Hackett as OC to help lure Rodgers. Not a direct cap expense, but he certainly didn't help them build a functional offense. The Jets are in a worse place after Rodgers than before, and a lot of it is tied to Rodgers.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThunderDan
GM Rodgers wasn’t very good
Hackett was paid the minimum by the Jesters since Denver was on the hook for Hackett’s contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadScientist
Getting an ex-head coach as OC for the minimum is a bargain.
How did the HC gig go for Hackett in Denver? Was he a top tier HC? Did he even last a year?