Woody,
"I see you as someone who gets nasty on occasion. I find it inexcusable, even if you are Mr. Rodgers 99% of the time." HH
I'm not always the choir boy. I will not disagree that I won't stand strong on certain principle, and not just act as - the salivating bystander - that loves the sort of crap - that this thread got to. We all have to take a look inside. Because of where this thread went. We have alot to learn from it.
My explanation is not my excuse.
I will not label one soul that contributed anything to this thread. Yet, it went to the gutter, far sooner ( days sooner ) than when I stepped up and made a post that used profanity. I'm ashamed that I did that, took that response HH, as it offended other's. I have had to look inside of me over that shame.
That (profanity) never before happened on my part (ever) on this forum or at JSO. Does 'that fact' - offer a blanket excuse for any profanity on my part. NO ! I screwed up in that post. I let myself down too. That post was totally out of character for me.
I'm no greater than thou - sad suck person, that can't handle reading profanity. If any of you feel the need to go there, from time to time , and it's condoned on this Forum by the Power's to bring that under some decent control, then what are we even discussing here? We are who we are and the use of profanity is part and parcel of a persons style and personality. Plenty of that style prevails here, and we all do OUR best to deal with it - don't we? Sometimes better than others.
This is just my thought on this issue of profanity.
Profanity directed at any other member obsessively and an 'on attack aproach - recurrently', should not be condoned, without someone - at least trying to stop it.
If a person is attacked or anyway feels offended or insulted? Shouldn't they sometimes feel a need to defend? Do we as members, just sit back and allow that behaviour to be ongoing? Do we as members single out any one person over the rest?
Secondly. Often, this isn't a place for - 'the Anal Retentive'. We all live in a Democrasy not a Fascist State.
I hate censorship. Certainly, a Democrasy conditions a normal response to stand up for one's right of being. People should respect themselves fairly and do so to others ( all other's) and DAM we sometimes fail there.
Question to this Forum?
To what degree - how long (everyone) should profanity aimed at one member continue? Every community must have leadership that is respected; then there are the rules to protect all OUR values. If I screw up then I'll be told so, and I respect that; if I continue to screw up. Then I'll be punished fr. less - to more severley.
It's not Rocket science but playground stuff. Common sense based upon value and acknowledgement of RESPECT, DECENCY and TOLERANCE.
I don't ever want to see one single member of this forum 'singled out' and damaged - beyond 'a warning', of true merit. Power is not used properly, if it's either over used or misused.
I'm a member here and have a view on this issue. That is all I have.
I'm no hero or foe to anyone.
I'm also represented in a minority sense - as I am a Canadian Packer fan. Do i feel that ? YES ! Do I deal with that as a basis to earn respect? YES!
I try my best - to be a solid contributor to all of you people, as that is the least I can do for the privalege of my membership - to make this a better forum.
Before that - I am a Canadian and the right to exercise my democratic rights peacefully are guranteed, by my Great Country - I'm not ever denied that right in Canada. That - plus my goodwill and intelligence, gives me a sense of strength - the founded courage, to endeavour to make a situation better.
This forum isn't Canada. This is an independent website in the WW Net. I trust that it is owned, operated and governed by people that are really democratic? Thus for whatever value and merit may be found in it. I give my viewpoint on this.
As I wrote before.
I regret deeply my response on that post, because I simply allowed the whole thing to finally get to me.
I reacted at that time, because yet another "let's cool it request" on your part HH was cast aside. I was reading up through this thread and owed it to myself and all of you to read that thread in it's entirety and sit back and think. I failed there. I am sorry, and again deeply regret any afront to any member here. It will never happen as such again.
I will again - if I feel the need. Exercise my rights to express myself, but I'll never use profanity when I'm so much better equipped to express myself properly, no matter how direct otherwise, I may have to be.
I reacted 'in myself', and I could have done so with more tact and skill.
Can we all learn from this?
Where does my reaction then - get us? What will be the resolve, on the part of the leadership here - to promote growth, and be more positive in OUR community here?
I humbly suggest.
Those of you, who believe that 'pointing a finger', is the correct response. Should examine that approach - and I suggest to you - that isn't the correct response. I suggest that you look deeper inside yourselve, for more than that.
ALL getting along - all of the time. Good gracious, let's also get to REAL. We are mere human beings. Can we exercise more tact in dealing with ourselves on any advesarial stance. That is solely up to the individual and when anyone steps too far out of line, then that's a matter for the LEADERSHIP here to consider.
As Fosco33 has said. Can we all try harder to get along. Time only is the answer to that. Do we have the same as went on at JSO?
Absolutely NOT!
We are growing - as a community. We will get stronger with time.
I invite any criticisms of this post out in the openess of the forum or via personal message. I'm here to help this forum be more of what we would all enjoy. I mean - everyone here. Ed.