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The pro bowl is pointless for a measure of success since fans are allowed to vote now. Plus I have 12 QB's could say they were selected for the pb in 2015.
The NFL All Pro team is the measuring stick.
Its too restrictive. So few players get on the team that its useless for most players in the League. And its useless for most players in the draft, though you could probably use it to track success in rounds over time.
The Pro-Football-Reference AV measurement uses Pro Bowls but adds other factors. And the pick value chart I linked to earlier uses those values to tell people how valuable each pick yet.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=466
You're right Patler. With the sheer number of UDFA's that are invited to camps some of them are bound to be overlooked during the 7 round draft process and then stick with a team once they put the pads on and have an opportunity to prove that they're real football players. I just think it proves that some players have attributes and intangibles that the evaluators simply can't pin down or they would have been taken during the draft by someone. I also think it shows how inexact the evaluation process is once you get past most of the obviously good players in the first couple of rounds.
Agreed. I've never thought there was a lot of difference between the better undrafted players, and the 6-7th round. The last few rounds are useful in making sure you get a couple that you are most interested in, perhaps at positions of greater need. With the undrafted players, you often have competition for their signature on a contract. There are hundreds of relatively similarly talented players, and it is impossible to accurately predict which will adapt, mature, develop the best once they hit the NFL.
Mockup of all the mocks, with percentages. Updated through today, with mocks from March 21 to April 17. So some of this data is a month old.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dra...encies-experts
1. Rams - Wentz, Lynch, Treadwell, Goff (in descending order of percentage, 10% threshold after first 3)
2. Browns - Goff, Wentz, Ramsey
3. Chargers - Ramsey, Tunsil, Buckner
4. Cowboys - Bosa, Ramsey, Jack
5. Jags - Jack, Ramsey, Bosa
6. Ravens - Buckner, Bosa, Stanley, Tunsil/Jack
7. 49ers - Goff, Buckner, Wentz, Lynch
8. Eagles - Elliot, Hargreaves, Stanley
9. Tampa - Hargreaves, Lawson, Buckner, Bosa
10. Giants - Stanley, Elliot, Hargreaves/Conklin
11. Bears - Floyd, Stanley, Lawson (literally everyone is listed for the Bears)
12. Saints - Rankins, Robinson, Lawson
13. Dolphins - Elliot, Jackson, Hargreaves, Lee/Apple, Alexander
14. Raiders - Apple, Ragland, Conklin
15. Tennessee - Tunsil, Conklin, Decker
16. Lions - Decker/Treadwell, Conklin (Other leads with over 20%)
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dra...encies-experts
17. Falcons - Lee, Lawson, Ragland, Floyd
18. Colts - Decker, Spence, Kelly, Conklin
19. Bills - Nkemdiche, Spence/Reed
20. Jets - Floyd, Lynch, Spence/Lee
21. Washington - Reed, Ragland/Billings, Robinson
22. Texans - Coleman, Doctson, Fuller, Treadwell
23. Vikings - Doctson, Treadwell, Fuller, Coleman
24. Bengals - Coleman, Doctson, Fuller
25. Steelers - Jackson, Alexander, Apple
26. Seahawks - Others (37%), Spriggs, Decker, Ifedi
27. Packers - Others (25%), Reed, Ragland, Billings
28. Chiefs - Others (37%), Jackson, Alexander, Apple
29. Cardinals - Others (38%), Kelly, Spence/Nkemdiche
30. Panthers - Others (25%), Ogbah, Spriggs, Dodd
31. Broncos - Others (27%), Lynch, Cook, Nkemdiche
Huh. No Patriots pick. Wonder what happened?
Kiper at ESPN for the Packers: http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-pa...ft-for-packers
Here are his picks for the Packers:
First round (No. 27 overall): Kamalei Correa, OLB, Boise State
Second round (No. 57): Jerell Adams, TE, South Carolina
Third round (No. 88): Maurice Canady, CB, Virginia
McShay: http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-pa...-packers-draft
Round 1 (No. 27 overall): Vernon Butler, DT, Louisiana Tech
Round 2 (No. 57): Nick Vannett, TE, Ohio State
Round 3 (No. 88): B.J. Goodson, ILB, Clemson
He has the TE even though this mock is post FA signing Cook.
Does this represent the best path forward, or does it just demonstrate the desperate desire to improve a team short term?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CghkO1gWQAA-Dhe.jpg:large
Scott Kacsmar @FO_ScottKacsmar 14h14 hours ago
Give me the group on the left every time. @Cianaf
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 3m3 minutes ago
#Panthers GM Dave Gettleman: "I don't subscribe to the window theory. I don't subscribe to the one-player-away theory."
On releasing Josh Norman.
Brian Burke @bburkeESPN 8m8 minutes ago
I'm often asked what is the NFL's equivalent of undervalued assets, a la high-OBA batters in Moneyball. Answer is *future* draft picks.