Yup, easier to apologize than "consult" and ignore.
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a change needed to be made, a-rods play has regressed lately and the only other QB on the team sucked when the team needed him
so the QB coach wasn't exactly doing a great job
we don't need a QB coach whos gonna be good buddies with the QBs, we need one that is willing to tell them when they fuck up or aren't doing things the right way.
before van pelt they were trying to get the ball out of a-rods hands in 2.5 seconds. we need to get back to those days
the bad news is that the new guy has been coaching eli the last 2 years and eli has been terrible under him, well not terrible, but not great either
I think Hundley's lack of being prepared to start when needed is what got Van Pelt fired (if he was fired).
Manning was decent in 2016. This year their WR corp was wiped out by injuries. I wouldn't judge the coach too harshly for his performance. Plus, Manning is 37. He might be on the downside of his career. Mannings passer ratings the past 2 year were 86.0 and 80.4. His career passer rating is 83.5. He's never been in the elite class of QB's despite his 2 rings.
I think Rodgers was disappointed McCarthy didn't consult with him before he hired Cignetti. #12 was stupid to talk about that to the press no matter what he was asked. Rodgers knew Van Pelt was leaving. Unfortunately for Alex his work with Hundley didn't do him any favors so he didn't get a OC job like he wanted.
thats what the story from the team and van pelt were
if they wanted to allow van pelt to save some face, this is the story they would use
also, has anyone heard any buzz what so ever about him becoming an OC anywhere? or even any interest?
i call total BS on the story, he was canned
http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/p...t-relationship
Interesting story from last year after beating Dallas in playoffs about the relationship between Rodgers and Van Pelt. Sheds some light about why Rodgers might have reacted as he did.
MM wouldn't do anything but tell the exact TRUTH would he !?
The weird thing and Mike McCarthy there are too many in here that actually cannot see that Punk for what he is.
Mike McCarthy and now Mark Murphy and tied to MM are the WEAKEST LINKS.
I hope so very much that Mike McCarthy gets canned after next Season.
Nailed it.
So instead Mike McCarthy takes a QB Coach, from of all places, the NY Giants Organization; as if last Season recommended that. As if that Guy has the Resume and credentials for the job as the New Packers QB's Coach.
Ohh MM and he go way back to the 1980's. Not any reason of importance and essential criteria to hire anybody.
MM based that hire on the recommendation of former NY Giants HC Ben McAdoo; who may have embarrassed himself permanently out of any higher Position and Coaching in the NFL again. Ben McAdoo may go down in NFL History as being the NFL Head Coach that made the biggest blunder in NFL History benching Eli Manning for a QB that can't throw dirt.
Frankly Mike McCarthy will soon run out of excuses. He's certainly not fooling Aaron Rodgers.
If someone did that in my company, I would fire him right away. If we somehow came to a 1 year deal and he was going to look elsewhere, when he couldn’t find a job with another company I wouldn’t take him back.
Van Pelt made it know he wanted to be OC elsewhere. His gamble didn’t work out.
Packer HC Mike McCarthy is 'the WEAKEST LINK' and the Green Bay Packers ever getting to another Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers as the Packer QB.
If I could make another of me we would both dance an Irish Jig.
Instead... I'll certainly be dancing one on the day Packers (Uggghhh) HC Mike McCarthy is FIRED !
Knowing, 'as stubborn as he is'; he'll more likely cheat me and somehow quietly ride off into the Sunset.
Until then I'll just practise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIfnbVPP3SM
I think that Aaron Rodgers being the hub of this team, and as we now know, the difference between 10-6 and 6-10, I would've asked him if he wanted Van Pelt back. If Rodgers said yes, I'd hire him back. Period.
Was Van Pelt all that great a QB coach? How come after he became Aaron's coach did Rodgers have stretches where he didn't play well? He had to tell us all to relax in 2015 because things weren't going well and he looked positively pedestrian in the second half of 2016 until he declared we'd run the table.
It wasn't just us who thought the offense got more tepid after 2011.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodgers
The question (s) I propose:
A.) Did Packer HC Mike McCarthy upgrade at the QB Coaching level Vs possibly scapegoating on former Packer QB's Coach Alex Van Pelt and ultimately downgrade (at QB Coach)?
B.) Looking at the BIG PICTURE...Will the Green Bay Packers and Packer Nation ultimately suffer at the expense of Mike McCarthy's ego and personality?
Time responds to most questions.
http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-p...-alex-van-pelt
Aaron Rodgers' new QB coach faces challenge of following Alex Van Pelt
Rob Demovsky ... ESPN Staff Writer
All the world wanted McCarthy to clean house until he let four coaches go and then he was scapegoating. Same complaints after 2008. McGinn was aghast no one appeared in the press room to explain themselves. I think he came close to predicting McCarthy would have trouble securing quality assistants after that betrayal.
As usual, he was full of it. It doesn't make the new hires better, but it was still probably time.
I like the swap of Capers for Pettine most. I like Montgomery on the D line next. Like the Patriots guy they got for the LBs. I am nervous but hopeful about Whitt as DB coach/pass game coordinator. He could solve the issues or he could prove to be part of the problem.
The offensive changes look like treading water to me. Maybe Philbin had a magic effect before. But honestly the best news is that he is rebuilding his offense from the playbook up.
I think he's upgraded both coordinator positions. It's probably the best situation there they've had since Capers' early years here. Quite a bit has been made of Rodgers not being happy with the QB coach change. But there's not really much evidence that Van Pelt was a good QB coach. Rodgers had uncharacteristic bad stretches in 2015 and 2016, And Hundley looked unprepared in 2017. Just because a coach is popular with his players doesn't necessarily mean he's a good coach.
I don't care if Van Pelt is a really good coach; I care that the most important employee in the whole franchise is happy. Hell, if Rodgers said he wanted his QB coach to blow him, I'd offer up any of a number of Packerrats who think they know all to take the position.
The problems, which have been growing since 2011 on offense, definitely extend beyond the QB coach. I think they extend beyond the offensive coordinator but as I don't actually know the precise impact of the OC under McCarthy (other than installing a practice plan during the week and planning meetings) I can't be sure about this one.
Its not going to be fixed by the coordinator. The Head Coach is going to have to allow his offense to change significantly. From the no huddle and tempo to throwing behind the LOS, changes made in the last six years have been a pretty mixed bag and have only partially staved off a decline. As a body of work, its hard to complain. But as an Offense dominant team, its not been enough.
I know I am beginning to sound like wist, but go back and watch the playoff game versus the 49ers in Green Bay. It wasn't the defense that failed to deliver (though they had a spectacular fail at the end). It was the offense failing to make mincemeat out of a good defense.