Agree. I'd like him on ST and as the 3rd safety in a pinch.
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I'm hoping they grab Murphy or one of the Robinsons. They have capital to move up if all three are going off the board. Let Hafley work his magic on the back end with what we have and a later pick db.
dejean just looks and sounds too perfect for what we need
trade up to get him if you have to
Now that they have signed McKinney and supposedly are shopping around for another FA Safety, I doubt they draft a Safety, Dejean or other in the first or second round. I said before we ever got McKinney that I was hoping they go the FA route, as Safety is one of those positions where hotshot college players don't often translate to great pros, at least not in their early years.
What do we need most with the new D coordinator? Still hard to say. It's a lot easier to say a lot of position groups we don't need. The biggest needs are probably RB and ILB, neither of which is usually a good idea to take in the first round.
If you haven't watched Wahle, you're missing out. Good break down of Rasheed Walker, and great thoughts about draft at the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp8dlGTF2fc
After some reading, I think I want them to take JPJ in the first round:
THE JUGGERNAUT
Jackson Powers-Johnson: The Packers Next Juggernaut? | (packerstalk.com)
Voted Other in the poll, and my ideal choice is JC Latham. Quite possible he goes in the 10-24 range, though.
Would be happy with a corner prospect if there is no OL available, or DL if Newton falls down to us.
About a quarter way or a third in to the video. I didn't watch everything he had to say, but my takeaway from the analysis (no disagreement from me, at any point):
Film was from the Panthers game... Walker is a plus effort player with good natural strength and issues with (most specifically) hand technique, pad level (narrowing base and standing too tall), footwork (some false steps, but also some curious strategy about initial posturing pre-snap -- coaching).
Grand takeaway is that Walker should not be considered a liability, but the jury is out - if he improves the technical aspects, he's got the physical traits and a good motor and the marriage of all those things could make him a damn good LT.
Pad level! Pad level! Pad level!
Where's Mike McCarthy when you need him?
I really can't get very excited about Packer picks until they happen. I definitely hope they do not take an OLineman in the first round. The closest thing to needs that we have are ILB and RB, neither of which are generally good to take in the first round. So I guess, getting a hotshot pass rusher like Robinson would be my choice.
Throwing in a vote for Kool-Aid here. Rumor at this link says Packers could be interested. Seems like a safe pick, if he doesn't work out on the outside could be good at slot or free safety.
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2...spects-players
"It was also reported that Green Bay had extended conversations with cornerback Kool-Aid McKinstry, who also has return ability, at Alabama’s pro day."
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kool-a...4-0b09c691ed50
I hope they draft him so a reporter can ask his girlfriend if she's drinking the Kool-Aid.
And if they draft someone with that first pick who's not a safety or linebacker, you can say with some certainty that they're not drafting strictly for need. Nobody likes a "reach" pick.
Yes, just say no to the fats, the Yokozunas - be it a fat offensive lineman or a fat defensive lineman.
Everyone is enamored by the white corner, but I wouldn’t mind the Packers trading up for WR Xavier Worthy, a poor man’s Tyreek Hill. Watson has the Claymaker metrosexual disorder and can’t be counted on to suit up week after week. Draft Worthy and, if J-Love gets better, Pack offense could morph into the greatest show on earth not seen since the Wu-Tang Clan was in their prime.
Hand tech is the easiest thing to learn. I'm not concerned with his pad level because he is big and long, and in the run game he moves people regardless of how (and pad level is nearly impossible to teach. You have natural low center or not). He does need more work on his feet and its not easy to learn, but he improved throughout the year so I expect more.
Last call.
I've seen a lot of mocks the last couple of days, done a few myself, and am really surprised how many mocks are suddenly showing Cooper DeJean available at #25.
A month ago, I never would have thought it possible, but now I'm wondering. If he's there, I say we grab him. Almost anyone else who'd still be on the board at #25, I'd trade back into the 2nd and pick up an extra 3rd. We're in that weird "dead zone" in the talent pool where just about anyone else who'd still be available would likely be no better than a couple of other players who'll still be there in the early 2nd Round.
I hope someone trades up and drafts your boy Cooper right before the Packers.
Close, Mad. Better than that is if DeJean is sitting there at #25, and the Packers trade back - and someone else takes him.
My final call goes something like this. Gutes trades up 3-5 spots for Cooper. When drafted he is announced as a DB, not a CB.
This being the "should" poll - what we'd like to see, not the prediction thing, I am just now getting in, saying I'd like to see Chop Robinson, who apparently is the best edge rusher/4-3 OLB prospect available. He may very well be gone, so I'm not predicting that we get him.
I’m for Cooper, as all the best OTs will be off the board. I think the Pack is more likely to trade down though and load up for targeting specific guys in rounds 2-3.
I think if Gutes pulls off a trade to land DeJean it will be my favorite start to a draft ever. And most rats will then be just fine with our 2 picks. After that I don't know enough to instantly like or hate a pick. Zach Tom wasn't on my radar until I saw the tape and noticed he dominated some top guys. Same with Stokes until I saw how he basically shut down everyone the SEC threw at him. Or Wicks until I read the article about them changing his entire scheme and QB going into his senior year. I guess that why Gutes is the GM and I'm a fan.
I'm heading down to Detroit later to check it all out. It's going to be a madhouse. Wish me luck.
Maybe Gute just hangs tough Bobble. No team took that mustard guy with a late 1 so they might be hesitant to spend an early-mid 2. Could get him on the clearance rack.
I don't. I remember a lot of people expressing opinions, with varying degrees of confidence, that he woud likely be gone. Kinda what people do on message boards, ain't it? Express and discuss opinions; exchange points of view?
But I don't recall anyone planting a flag and insisting it; just expressing opinions. You were one, in fact. In fact, you were one of the ones predicting we might trade up to get him, just Wednesday morning.
That apparently wasn't a ridiculous point of view 12 hours before the pick, but now it is?
Don’t have a melt down Frozen, you might still get to fanboy Dejean today.
Nobody's having a meltdown. Some of you guys keep talking about people melting down or people's heads exploding, but I haven't seen a single post where anyone has "melted down", or even come close.
I think your imaginations are getting the best of some of y'all.
The eagles swooping in to get him set you off huh? :lol:
Man you need an avatar. How about this one?
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