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Originally Posted by Zool
Vanished !
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Originally Posted by Zool
Vanished !
There's actually a way to work around Cuttler for this. All they have to do is get the play in and line up very quickly (more than 15 seconds remaining). If the formation is not favorable, the OC can yell over the mike - "Hey dumbass, check to this play".Quote:
Originally Posted by pbmax
Good news for the Packers if they buy into the scapgoat idea and keep Trestman.Quote:
Originally Posted by KYPack
Bears bench Cutler. Jimmy Clausen to start. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-jimmy-clausen
Wow.
McGinn sure has been capable of some stinkers.
That is great news.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joemailman
I don't know. Packers could use an upset win but Bears really suck this season...and they'll suck even more with Clausen. Ergo, easy Lions win. In fact, in the long run, it sucks that Bears are realizing that Cutlers is not a winner and in reality a douchebag.Quote:
Originally Posted by woodbuck27
Clausen?
I don't understand - you actually believe, with your exhaustive research, that the Bears have a better chance to win with Clausen in lieu of Cutler, in spite of the Chicago turmoil?Quote:
Originally Posted by woodbuck27
Cutler is guaranteed to receive 15.5 million from the Bears in 2015 even if they were to cut him. If he is on the Bears roster on the 3rd day of the 2015 league year, which occurs in March, 10 million of his 2016 salary would be guaranteed.
Chicago Bears Organizational Chart:
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How can a team go from signing a veteran QB to a 7 yr/$126M contract in the off season to benching the QB 14 games later? This isn't a young QB still learning the game and needing a break to regroup. Cutler is 31 years old, in his 9th season. Benching him, if he doesn't have an undisclosed injury, is effectively severing the commitment established by signing the contract.
What have they learned about Cutler in the last 14 games that they didn't already know in the off season? He had been the Bears QB for 5 years. Huge screw up on many levels by the Bears organization.
I'm glad the Bears have found the culprit for the worst defense in the entire league in terms of points allowed. The Bears defense has allowed 33 passing TDs. They have allowed 10 of 16 4th down attempts to be converted against them. Clearly, Jay Cutler is the mastermind holding the defense back from achieving their lofty goals.
I'm in the Pro Pickem. I didn't see the Bears winning with Jay Cutler nor do I see Chicago defeating the Lions this week with any other QB on their roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by QBME
Benching Jay Cutler is a positive move for obvious reasons.
First - The team isn't winning with Jay Cutler. Moving on now without Jay Cutler will help answer important questions. I'm discounting any games here to shake up Cutler. That man is a loser.
Looking at another starting QB. How did that team look last season with Josh McCown behind Center?
Anything concerning any change at QB in Chicago can't be much worse at this point in the schedule.
Have you been watching any Bear games? Following the Bears at all? That team is in an ugly mess. I'd hate to be a Bears fan. Watching their pain on MNF wasn't pretty. Jay Cutler stunk out the joint. The GM and HC and his staff; many players and the Bear fans are sick of Jay Cutler.
I pay attention for various reasons. Specificlly I'm interested in things Chicago Bears and especially in the rumors surrounding their HC. The Bear offense is nowhere with Jay Cutler 'the TO machine'. Cutler doesn't even do a decent job of protecting the ball. I watch him and know he'll toss a silly pick.
That team had/has real potential with any QB that can follow a plan. That can exercise discipline. Jay Cutler is for some reason on his own planet. He's not in sync with his HC, OC and fellow players. That's all right in your face if your paying any attention to the Chicago Bears.
Yes there is obvious turmoil in Chicago and benching Jay Cutler is a step in the right direction.
Pft has it figured out. Cutlers money in 2015 is guaranteed for Injury only it looks like. So by benching him, they are eliminating the risk of him getting Injured. Their hope is to trade him in the offseason.
Good luck with that
And it is a bad thing that the bears have figured out cutler sucks
Wow, didn't see this coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joemailman
Can they really have lost faith in him to that extent? Seems pretty incredible.
No team should have to put up with that much misery.Quote:
Originally Posted by red
Not really. The Bears really have never had a true franchise QB in the entire history of their existence. Sid Luckman? Is that really the BEST they've got? What makes you think they are going to find one now? Cutler is mediocre...but at least 10 teams in the NFL have it far worse at QB. The chances of the Bears going further south at QB are probably higher than them finding a gem.Quote:
Originally Posted by red
Not to worry.Quote:
Originally Posted by mmmdk
No way the Green Bay Packers back into a playoff slot.
The Packers will handle Tampa Bay this week.
The Detroit LIONS would have (with Cutler @ QB) and still will defeat the Chicago Bears this week no matter who the Bears use @ QB. The Lions are a seriously good team. The Bears are a very bad team.
The Detriot Lions will be a formidable foe @ Lambeau in Week 17. The Lions don't win @ Lambeau Field.
The Packers will win out and grab the NO. 2 Seed.
It's all very simple. :-)
The Bears can end up looking very foolish if they trade or cut him this off season. The questions about Jay Cutler today are no different than the questions about him during the off season. The Bears should have had the guts to let him go last off season. They are learning a very expensive lesson. Alternatively, they would have been better off using the franchise tag on him if they felt the need to give him a second year with Trestman.
If I understand the "Spotrac" breakdown correctly, the total guarantee as of March 2014 was $38M, and an additional $10M guarantees in 3/2015. If they dump him before March, they are still on the hook next year for a $19.5M cap hit after a cap charge this year of $18.5M.
$38M for one year of service.
Trade? Does anyone want him at roughly $16-21M/year? How much will they give to take on that obligation? Does a 32 year old 10 year vet still have "upside" to hope for????
How about a bucket of ice cold water thrown on his head daily?Quote:
Originally Posted by Patler
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" Hey Jay...Are you in there? .... Screw it get the bucket !
That decline I sorta understand. I really want to know how they went from having an answer in the O line to having none is less than a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by King Friday
Let's hope Clausen has more Shaun Hill or Paul Justin in him than Manziel did last week.
It doesn't matter................. Lions win.Quote:
Originally Posted by pbmax
It's not even fun beating the Bears, these days. It really isn't. I certainly don't want a return to the 80's, but some competitive balance would be nice.
It really has become pathetic quickly hasn't it? Joe's pic nails it. It's like watching a train wreck. It used to be fun ripping on Rex and even Cutler... I never thought I'd actually start to feel sorry for their fans. Talk about a dire situation. They shoulda kept McCown. How bad is that?
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...cutler-in-2015
Eight potential landing spots for Jay Cutler in 2015
By Dan Hanzus ...Around the NFL Writer
Published: Dec. 17, 2014 at 09:45 p.m. ... Updated: Dec. 17, 2014 at 10:26 p.m.
Comment woodbuck27:
Yes.... The Chicago Bears may in the end retain him.
This move to bench Jay Cutler may be an effort to shake him out of his tree.
The move may be related to "can Marc Trestman win again".
The Bears looked terrific last season with Josh McCown behind Center.
It doesn't appear likely that Jiimmy Clausen is the answer.
Do you turn to a raw Rookie in David Fales and start him?
http://www.chicagobears.com/team/ros...4-a5bec4d31cfc
That would be to assume that he's ready.
POLL:Quote:
Originally Posted by QBME
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...htmlstory.html
Bears bench Jay Cutler for Sunday's game. Agree with the decision?
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It's Over for Cutler in Chicago as Trestman Puts Him in His Place: The Bench
By: Mike Freeman , NFL National Lead Writer
Dec 17, 2014
" For Cutler to sit just 14 games into a megacontract means there will be a total housecleaning in Chicago. Cutler usually only gets coaches fired. This time, a general manager could be gone as well.
Throughout Cutler's career, coaches always believed: I can change him. This is the Jeff George Theorem. It's right up there with Hawking radiation and relativity. The more you rely on Cutler, the more you think you can change him, the more you fall into the abyss."
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I doubt Clausen can be any worse than Cutler has been this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by mmmdk
And so has the rest of the league. Seriously, what other team is gonna want that guy at that salary? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by red
Ditto. Don't forget, if this is trap game week for the Packers, it's more so for the Lions. They killed the Bears in Detroit so they may be looking beyond the Bears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugger
Let's hope the Bears' players feel they've got something to prove.
This move might be more to motivate the other players on the roster = "If they can bench Jay am I next?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi
I think, myself, that the Bears have laid down this season. At least Lovie's got TB playing hard.
There is no "I" in "team," but there is in "quit"!
Hell, the talkheads already have the Bears ditching everyone except Jay Cutler in the offseason - and bringing Shanny in to get Cutler to become the kind of QB he never has been in his nine years in the NFL.
Good luck with that.
I think it's all about Jay Cutlers lousy play and attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugger
How that affects everything else....and possibly winning based in a solid game plan.
Jay Cutler simply isn't a TEAM PLAYER.
This goes back to last season and the decision to replace Josh McCown with a returning Jay Cutler (from injury) when Josh McCown had the Bears really rolling.
With Josh McCown behind Center you could see a positively different and confident team. The Bears offense was seriously hot.
They're really in a pickle nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Joemailman
He's untradeable. His next contract and where is going to be real intriguing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugger
There's a reasonable chance it will look like Jeff George's new contract following his 2001 season with the Redskins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig