NO WAY you thought of that joke yourself.
Where did you steal it from, Carolina?
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The intent in one is to provide balls that meet the requirements so they are approved and intentionally deceive the refs knowing that you can then do whatever you want to the balls.
The intent in the other is to get as close as possible to the upper amount the refs will allow.
Belichick saying he didn't know about the rule is hysterical. This from the guy who brought out the 4 OL formation and told others they need to read the rulebook to see it was legal.
Is it cheating? Yes. They violated the rules.
Is Goodell going to do something other than a slap on the wrist fine? No. He sure as hell won't take away draft picks as some want him to.
Maybe it's homerism, but I agree. From what Rodgers said, he puts in as much air as he thinks he can get away with, then gives the balls to the refs. If they say it's ok, then it's ok. Brady doctored (or had them doctored) after they passed inspection.
All of this is pretty comical, and the timing of it is part of that. In reality, the Patriots should be punished. Now. The league has 2 weeks to sort it out, plenty of time. Fine Brady or the team, call him into the commisioners office to explain, whatever they decide. But, with the SB coming up, they just can't, there was an article on PFT that said as of 4 days after the game, the league hadn't even contacted Brady to discuss it :roll:
This is looking an awful lot like the way they handled the Rice thing, bury their head in the sand, and ignore the evidence that is there for the taking, and hope it all goes away
Is there any evidence that the Patriots deflated the balls after the referees inspected them? Isn't it possible that the officials failed to detect that the balls were under-inflated when they inspected them? After all, an official would have handled the ball after every Patriot offensive play and apparently didn't notice anything wrong.
Evidently it's near impossible to determine a difference of 2 psi in a ball just by handling it.
So now balls must be measure for correct pressure just like stick blade curves have to follow a specified limitation in the NHL.
This article is good;
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ng-on-all-year
It looks to me like the pat's pay some price here.
The NFL really needs to hire some people next year who are skilled at handling balls, to know the inflation difference, just by the way they feel in your hands - their softness/turgidity; the smoothness or roughness, their delicacy. I recommend Pete Schweddy:
https://screen.yahoo.com/delicious-dish-npr-snl-skits/
Andrew Luck on how he felt after the loss.
https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/BCA...mRY.11dpx84hVu
the nfl doesn't want to dig too deep into this imo. the end result is probably that brady ordered the balls to be deflated, which like they mentioned on PFT and on espn radio, could very well end in a suspension
imagine the super bowl without its biggest star.
they also mentioned on the radio, that theres starting to be the feeling that this could be brady's last game
This is getting stupid. The NFL needs to squash this now.
Agreed. The fact that the league hasn't interviewed a single player yet says it all.
http://espn.go.com/blog/pittsburgh-s...n-at-all-costs
Brett Keisel: New England Patriots will try to 'win at all costs'
January, 23, 2015 12:15 PM ET
By: Scott Brown | ESPN.com
Comment woodbuck27:
So where is the NFL Officially on this matter? Right here after five days:
In slow as cold molasses mode and with a Law Firm involved. Can't the NFL simply take the facts as they were discovered and interpret that Vs the RULE on the proper inflation of balls and punish who's deemed guilty? ie The new England Patriots.
To pin this on any individual will be difficult.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...192128202.html
"...."The investigation is being led jointly by NFL Executive Vice President Jeff Pash and Ted Wells of the law firm of Paul Weiss. Mr. Wells and his firm bring additional expertise and a valuable independent perspective. The investigation began promptly on Sunday night. Over the past several days,[B] nearly 40 interviews have been conducted ...(but apparently not with Tom Brady) , but gave minimal details on what it was told. The league did say the officials inspected the Patriots' footballs before the game per the rules and they were compliant with the rules, which clears up that key point. blah ...blah blah........ blah....blah "
Comment woodbuck27:
I saw this report on TSN this morning. Getting to the science of Deflate-gate this video covers all that, Did under inflation of the ball in the opening half in any way have any real influence on that game. Even the opposition Indy players say NO. That game pure and simple was about New England dominance.
In any case here is the science of the matter and might prompt the question. Why all the rage let the best play football.:
http://www.tsn.ca/video/sport-scienc...-gate-1.188711
SPORTS SCIENCE: Deflate-gate
A radio show (certainly not the best source of information) did a test of footballs inflated 2 psi lower than the rec. They said it was easy to detect and easier to squeeze the ball. This make sense to me without doing an experiment on my own.
Advanced NFL Stats has numbers on the incredible non-fumbling of the Patriots on their home turf (not sure how this jives with each team preparing the the footballs for the offense unless the ball deflation operation is conducted in the bowels of the home stadium and not on the sideline).
http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/?p=2932
This is a pretty wicked analysis.
A bit from that article...
The 2014 Patriots were just the 3rd team in the last 25 years to never have lost a fumble at home! The biggest difference between the Patriots and the other 2 teams who did it was that New England ran between 150 and 200 MORE plays this year than those teams did in the years they had zero home fumbles, making the Patriots stand alone in this unique statistic.
much to-do about nothing. teams should be able to have the ball(s) the way they want...that or completely take away that duty and put it in the hands of the league/officials.
Hoody genius just had another press conference and shed more light on the matter.
In this effort he gives the NFL all they really need to simply let this matter go.
Here it is:
Handling the ball caused (friction) to temporarily increase the air pressure as it was measured at game time.
Two hours later the balls cool and correspondingly the balls interior pressure (psi) drops.
Pressure and Temperature being directly proportional.
It's over it's done ...
Troy Aikman should have stood mum.
Temperature drop accounts for .4 PSI. The balls were 2 PSI under inflated. And this assumes the refs did not wait, and measure the PSI immediately after the game out on the field.Quote:
[WUSA9] Let’s assume that each ball was inflated to the minimum pressure required to meet the NFL rules regarding proper inflation: 12.5 psi. We convert psi (English) to pascals (Metric), which comes out to 86,184.5 Pa and assume room temperature (68ºF/20ºC) which converts to 293.15 K (Kelvin, the Metric equivalent). We now have,
86,184.5 Pa / 293.15 K = p2 / T2.
We’re down to two variables. But we also know the temperature on the field at the start of the game was reported as 51ºF/10.6ºC (283.15 K). Plug it in…
86,184.5 Pa / 293.15 K = p2 / 283.15 K
Neat! Look, we’re left with a solvable equation with one variable, p2, which is the pressure of the air inside the ball at game time! Let’s solve this riddle…
Isolate the lone variable:
(86,184.5 Pa / 293.15 K) * 283.15 K = p2
83,244.6 Pa = p2 —> 12.1 psi
83,244.6 Pa is 12.1 psi, so, according to our calculations, the balls could have been under-inflated by 0.4 psi on the field. This makes sense given the very first equation, which shows that a decrease in temperature would force a decrease in pressure, assuming the same volume of air in the football.
http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/scienc...ith-our-magic/
PB that's what I was hoping one of the reporters would have asked Hoody at the presser. It seems an obvious question to what Hoody was throwing out there as a possible reason for the low pressure in NE's footballs.
Plus, why the hell is the league allowing the Patriots to basically investigate themselves on this one?
As a fan I'm interesting in something better than 'hating on Bill Bilichick, Tom Brady and the New England Patriots' As a FAN The NFL's positions on rules broken or not are way beyond my concern. Why? it's simply become such a mess in that arena and getting worse. The rules are simply too complicated.
It seems to me that the NFL has opened up this can of worms and now it has to get out of it. How it arrives there is the real story.
I'd simply RULE that in the future the balls are all checked on some random basis. That all teams are well aware that this will be done and the results used to determine any future penalty.
Again as I posted earlier. For now it's about control and focusing on playing football.
Here's the NFL Players Association's stance on this.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...investigation/
Matthew Slater: NFLPA has “instructed” Patriots players to “reserve comment” on deflation investigation
Posted by Mike Wilkening on January 24, 2015, 2:28 PM EST
https://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wor...ball.jpg?w=750
Test ... Testing ... Take One !
Does this ball look deflated to you?
Now for the real test:
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...vpxVctwVyNMMp1
Does this ball look deflated to you?
What does that suggest?
I did not "hate on Brady, Belichick, or the Pats" in my post and there's no way to even infer that. Your original post made it sound like you think that this rule is not a big deal and thus breaking it is meaningless. The rule is there for a reason, and all the teams have to abide by it. Again, just because one does not like a rule does not give one permission to break it.
The NFL didn't create this mess, the Patriots did. I just don't think the NFL is going to do a good job in handling it.