Kind of a crummy trade-off. Not what anyone was hoping, I don't think.
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But it does make some sense, if Abbrederis is ready to go. It would be very unlikely for them to have more than 5 WRs active on game days. Janus seems to have the kick return job in hand, and is very valuable for KO and punt coverage teams. Abbrederis is #4 over anyone they might sign, so there is little use for another WR at this point. Cobb, Adams and Jones aren't going anywhere.
Oh, I agree. It does make a lot of sense. I just meant that I think most people were hoping Montgomery would come back in another two games, and that adding Quarless would mean that for the last three or so games you'd have both Montgomery and Quarless back to try to get the passing game going.
I suppose the hope now is that Abbrederis can play and not be injured every fourth play, and that Quarless can at least be a steadying, slightly-better option than Richard "Sack of Flour" Rodgers.
Do the Packers ever use two TE sets (either 2, 12 or 22 personnel)? If the healthy WR options are limited and Q is coming back, I wonder if they would run more 2 or 12 personnel with Quarless and Rodgers. If they would run 12 personnel with the 1 back, they could still threaten to run or pass out of that set. I just don't know if they run this much. Anyone know?
This article is a few years old and does reference some of the ways each set can be used: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...nnel-groupings
Last year the Packers TE's played on the following percentage of snap counts:
Perrillo 1%
Quarless 60%
Bostick 3%
Taylor 1%
Rodgers 45.5%
So they had to have used 2 TE's at least 10% of the time. Probably more since there were likely snaps where they used 0 TE's.
Stu Courtney @Stucourt 14m14 minutes ago
WR Ty Montgomery out, CB Damarious Randall and both #Packers centers among those questionable for #Lions game: http://pck.rs/1QeTVdw
I think at this point in the Packer's season, if they are questionable and on the OL or a WR they pretty much HAVE to play.
The Nate Palmer watch begins. Light a candle.
Bob's prescription?
Fire some players. You think you are hurt Cobb? Watch me cut James Jones. That'll heal you right up.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...360085831.html
Funny. Bob was singing hosannas about Nowak prior to Week 1.
IF the Packers have success this season, there will be a McGinn article about the wisdom of steering a steady ship and not panicking.
Of course, McSpinn would like us to guess who those seven guys are whom he thinks should be cut. But what I'd like to know is which seven players Bob knows are out there, available, and better than what's on the roster.
Or is the point simply to create fear? I'm not sure. He held Wolf up as a model, but Wolf didn't cut people just to cut people - he was constantly turning over the bottom of the roster to try to upgrade. I'm not sure any of those cuts ever scared Mike Wahle into playing harder. Then McSpinn held up the Dom Capers/Barry Foster example of just cutting someone in order to produce an effect.
So, I'm not sure what he's after, exactly - cutting guys to create fear, or cutting guys because there are better guys out there.
Bob says 2 are starters. Any guesses? I'll go with Richard Rodgers and Nate Palmer.
I'd be on board with benching both of them. But not cutting them. Unless there's a guy on the street who is magically better.
Cleaning house in December would be very odd timing. There is a shortage of players.
Bostick? Geez Bob, I didn't even have to think for more than a second to find a flaw in your brilliant hypothesis. It's just that the Packers don't do it like they are on the Apprentice because, well, that gets you hated by players and scouts and other managers and just about everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by bungalow bob
Plus, we find it's always better to fire people on a Friday. Studies have statistically shown that there's less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week.
McGinn has totally gone off the deep end.Quote:
Originally Posted by cocksucker
Fire McGinn!
Yeah, when you are relying on deep psychological analysis of someone you barely know to support your point, you have officially gone off the deep end.
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OK, now he has me hooked. 7 players to jettison, 2 starters.
On offense it could be Jones or Rodgers. But I am not sure even Bob is advocating cutting your TE off to spite your offense. So Jones on offense.
Masthay on ST? Might deserve it, and punters are the one commodity you can usually find in a day laborer line.
On defense it could be Guion (what was that contract?) since Pennell is taking his snaps, Palmer or Mulumba at LB and I am guessing Hayward at CB.
So I have six, but 3 starters. Anyone else?
Backups could be anyone on PS, hardly a challenge. Backups on roster: Backman, Tolzien (? maybe he looked funny at Michael Cohen), Goodson (goldbrick with illness), Gunter (be inactive on the unemployment line), Kuhn (age discrimination my ass), Janis (? counter-intuitive Bob pick-if Packers don't trust him, why keep his around?).
Is McGinn feeling the heat from the merger?
Firing as a performance motivational factor?
Have the Patriots and Seahawks won that many more Super Bowls than the Packers the last 10 years?
Gil Brandt @Gil_Brandt 12m12 minutes ago
DBs w/ lowest burn %
Revis 40%
Porter 40%
V.Davis 43%
Norman 43%
Fuller 43%
Gilmore 47%
House 47%
Darby 48%
Kirkpatrick 48%
Breaux 48%
Maybe we expected too much from Adams versus old man Porter.
Gil Brandt @Gil_Brandt 11m11 minutes ago
QBs w/ lowest comp % vs. blitz
Tannehill 47.8%
Kaepernick 48.7%
Winston 50.5%
Cutler 52.6%
Luck 52.8%
Rodgers 53.5%
Bortles 54.1%
OOOF!
Questionable character - Guion for sure. I think he also advocated releasing Quarless immediately, didn't he?
Injury history - Abbrederis has to be at the top of that list. Shields could be there too. Neal, Perry, Bulaga. Lots of candidates here.
Age - Kuhn, they have a replacement available anyway
Performance - any non starter. Guion, Masthay, Palmer, R Rodgers, Adams. The first two might be released, the others merely demoted.
Releasing James Jones would be just the opposite of what you want to encourage. This is a guy who is always available, even when injured, and never complains. It's not his fault he is thrust into more of a role than he is suited for.
I agree the messages will be mixed for a lot of these. Is any player going to not go to the tub if they cut Abby? He's missed so much time some of his teammates don't know who he is yet.
Jones would be production drop-off. But that could cost everyone but Tretter and Lang their jobs on the O line.
Bob is just an idiot. Seahawks' Nowak wasn't released as part of some get tough, shape up or ship out effort. They blew their O line position to smithereens last offseason and they are still rebuilding it.