Patricia will be the guy who makes it, not McDaniels.
Come on KY you know my MO.
I'll analyze and try to make my points (*** in the unfriendly confines of Packerrats ***) for 10 days to 2 weeks after the Season ends. Why do I do that? I do that because I don't simply represent my personal views. I hope to represent what Packer Nation should see, and thus ask to be corrected.
*** I understand the bad feelings certain Packerrats have towards me. I know I've been clearly judged:
A stupid Canuck 'a no nothing small 'p' Packer fan ( compared to anyone who ever pissed on land in Wisconsin ). A Packerrat that hardly should be respected as anyone who might even possibly see, 'the forest for the trees'.
I've 'stood TALL' under all that certain prejudice against me . I've done that (for about a dozen years) and Packerrats Members that decided I must be taken down. I just do my thing. I contribute to Packerrats (I hope) as much that's really positive in total; over my negativity towards 'the Rah Rah Cool Aid Crowd'. Some things never change and I'll never aspire to ' cowardice and THE TRUTH', and hatred and /or prejudice.
I'll never act like certain silly ass'd 'White Collar's' here. Trumpeting their obvious frustration with me; carrying it around like used toilet paper. Shouting out for all to see.."Look at me. Look at just how really stupid I am." There's no need for an idiot watch at Packerrats. Their the Members here that bear everything but the signs of decency and shame. Compare their Signatures to mine, and you'll see a certain discrepancy KY. I wouldn't want to be and I'll NEVER be them. :no:
At Packerrats I'm simply one of 'a growing crowd'. A crowd with another voice.
I'm a voice here, that balances the voices of those that really believe all is well and Green Bay Packers.They've been trumpeting their voices now for the last seven Season's and they've been wrong. We're now seeing the poor influence that the Team of Packer President and CEO Mark Murphy and past GM Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy have had on Packer Nation and celebrating another Super Bowl, since the 2010 Season. It's been Seven (7) too long years and no NFC Championship. Forget NO Lombardi Trophy !
Favre never got as much as he needed after the single Super Bowl win in the 1990's and and it took 14 long years for a repeat with another certain to become HOF QB in Aaron Rodgers. Arguably, Aaron Rodgers might be the finest and most athletic QB in NFL history and the Packers have won one NFC Championship and a Super Bowl with him . That's plainly screwed up.
At least now and finally, after the PROCESS and hiring another GM to replace Ted Thompson, who's being thrown under the bus as a GM that 'wasn't all in and getting it done. Being fair I qualify that ( given the circumstantial evidence ) as we are discovering it and mainly due to Mike McCarthy's 'flapping lips'. :-).
So KY:
There's a whole lot we see going on as The Packer BRASS attempts to set the Packer Nation Ship back on some really positive course to winning OUR next Super Bowl... 'OUR Lombardi ' Trophy'. I'll add this. What's with all this EGO driven BS and Packerrats? Don't we all desire that same reward? Another Super Bowl Victory?
Given that I believe that's the case and our most realistic purpose. Why cant we RELAX the obvious prejudice and jealousy and here? I'll never lower myself to your level. YOU know who 'YOU' are. I feel sad for your frustrations. :-)
In the end, being a Packer fan I'll be rooting for them to win it all, so if that happens or if they have a great run in the next couple years, I'll let go of my MikeHate.
I agree with you that I don't like this Frankenbacker approach to the front office. There's too much room now for shananigans and back room intrigue.
But maybe it will work. I suppose we'll wait and see, and while we're waiting, I'll have to reconsider my avatar now that Ted has tottered off into the sunset to watch Morgan State play Eastern New Mexico State so he can get a look at that left tackle who transferred from UCLA.
They don't get overwhelmed or blown out. They always have a backup plan and an adjustment. They will triple team a red zone threat to take him away.
That defense, even in its lean years, always keeps them in games. Even when they were rebuilding it didn't melt down like the Packers could.
McDaniels years with adversity got him fired for drafting Tebow early.
This is Woodcock's exact quote; his interpretation of the graph. The point isn't so much the inaccuracy of the graph (that is whether the graph was meant to be misleading or not), but how that inaccuracy leads to guys like woodblock drawing incorrect conclusions.
I know nothing about these coaches. But firing so many smells of desperation. These guys are long-time McCarthyites. How the fuck did they all become incompetent underneath the chief's nose? Isn't the guy at top the problem?
BTW, I checked in here at the Mother Ship because I saw on twitter that Packer coaches are moving en masse to the Browns. Is that true or speculation or do you care?
Until proven otherwise, yes. You can't have a purge of this extent without conceding some level of incompetence in coaching evaluation. Still, some got other jobs, so it isn't all personnel evaluation incompetence by Stubby. Some incompetence can be attributed to poor people management by Stubby too.
Of course, this is all at Packer-level competence, the baseline of which is set higher than many other organizations.
That Graph was used from a source and is accurate in terms of how the Packers Total Offense Performed in 2017 and back to the 2009 Season.
It's not calculated then drawn specifically (just for games that Aaron Rodgers) played.
From PRO FOOTBALL Reference the 2017 Season:
Points For: Total Points at 320 (20.0/g) or Ranked 21st in the NFL.
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...s/gnb/2017.htm
That Graph wasn't created by anyone here at Packerrats.com. That Graph comes from an outside of Packerrats source.
Of course, that Graph for Seasons 2013 and 2017 would look differently, if it was draw to specifically determine the MM and Aaron Rodgers led Packer 'O'.
The Packer 'O' performs much better with Aaron Rodgers behind Center.
If you absolutely need to whine about how the Author (s) of that Graph labeled it that's just who you are. :???:
I'll stick with what the Author (s) of that Graph claimed as the main argument and a Packers declining Offense.since it's Hey Days back in the 2011 Season. Take Aaron Rodgers away from the Mike McCarthy HC Offense and it's significant what Aaron Rodgers NOT Mike McCarthy means to the success of the Green Bay Packers.:
Both the Packers 'Offensive' NFL Ranking and Pts/gm are trending in the wrong direction (Points down and ranking sliding toward yellow). It is also alarming, just how much better the Offense was the last time Rodgers was injured and lost significant games (2013) than it was in this past Season 2017.
I support that position: My position isn't 'hardly', an indictment of Aaron Rodgers.
My position is clearly aimed at Packers HC Mike McCarthy, as not being the outstanding Offensive Play Caller; nor 'the QB Whisperer' that some Packer fans insist he is.
Packers Offense NFL Ranking:
2017 Rank 21st ... See Ranking in Season 2013 or the last Season when Aaron Rodgers missed significant games The decline here is significant.
MM's backup QB that he had considerable confidence in is Brett Hundley.That game after game Mike McCarthy refused to blame for any and every Packer loss as Hundley went 3-6 and 1-5 at Lambeau Field. The games at Lambeau Field included the Packers Mike McCarthy Coached Offense being Shut Out TWICE!
2016 Rank 4th
2015 Rank 15th
2014 Rank 1st
2013 Rank 8th
2012 Rank 5th
2011 Rank 1st
2010 Rank 10th
The decline was significant because of the play of the QB. NO offense is gonna be any good if your trigger man stinks. What good would it have done if McCarthy threw his young QB under the bus to the media? When Rodgers went down there weren't a lot of options. Until Brett actually started in a regular season game did we learn he didn't have it. Preseason and practice doesn't really tell ya much. I suppose you can blame Ted for not investing in a veteran backup QB but until AR was lost nobody complained when we spent our cap on other positions. Hindsight is always convenient.
Losing Rodgers for basically the season might turn out to be a blessing in disguise and has forced folks at 1265 to make the changes that were needed. I for one am very excited for 2018.
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Want a whip !
Wrestle with this one:
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" ... The aggregate of Murphy/Thompson/McCarthy/Capers have had 4 of their 9 teams realistically in the hunt, and three of those four were ’09 – ’11. In the last four years only one team, the “Seattle-meltdown-team-of-2014”, was statistically a Super Bowl Team. ..." *** <<< Quoted from Source.
But that's what he did last time Rodgers went down. They tried Tolzein (who had come from another team), then Seneca Wallace, and had even dipped their toes in the Vince Young experiment in the offseason. Then Matt Bloody Flynn comes in and wins a couple of games (finally). All of fandom was screaming for a talented college QB to be groomed instead of a late round flyer. So TT drafted a guy pundits were expecting in rounds 2-3.
So which is it? A veteran QB? A mid round QB? Or a high draft pick that won't help the team immediately?
Honestly, I could see taking a 2nd round flyer on a guy. But definitely not the first. Unless Gute establishes he's a guru at drafting 2nd round WRs or 4th round lineman, we wouldn't be giving up the next Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, or Davante Adams.
As an aside, I would keep TT on board just for his ability to pull the trigger on the right WR in round 2. That's an impressive list considering.
IT depends on the QB and the circumstances. Flynn had several productive games in relief in 2013, notably the second half against Dallas and I think the Pittsburgh game IIRC. He also had a monster game against Detroit in 2011 which got him starting money from a genius GM somewhere else.
You have to be a simpleton to put everything on Stubby. Like most very successful coaches he has many strengths, but also some limitations, and he is also limited by the personnel he gets, which is affected by the teams' success. The comprehensive big picture matters.
If Hundley plays at a Flynn level, TT and MM are geniuses and a Hundley should be traded for a 2nd and a 3rd before the draft. Unfortunately, when the lights came on, college Hundley showed back up and now TT and MM are morons.
Is it possible that it’s somewhere in the middle? That maybe they’ve both been employed In the NFL for a couple decades because they are actually pretty good at their jobs? Maybe, just maybe, they overestimated Hundley. Then again, so did most in here. Not by watching practice every day. Or pouring over tape. Or coaching the kid. Nope we read press releases and thought they should have traded him on draft night for a couple picks because he’s going to be good.
If you think you know more than guys who have been in the NFL for a couple decades, should you not also be employed by the NFL? Is it the money that’s holding you back? Are you taking time away from the field to spend it with your family? Maybe you’re just too smart for these bozos?
Uh, some of us were. I, for one, have repeatedly complained about how our O Line always made it necessary for Rodgers to scramble and throw on the run. I also mentioned a few times that our WRs were basically overrated because they had the best QB in the history of the world throwing to them.
And about the FAs Ted went out and got, yeah, quantity-wise, he picked up a few more than usual, but literally all of those were rejects that virtually nobody else wanted including the teams they came from - same ol' same ol'.