For sure. DJ Moore is a hell of a player. Wonder if he’s a head case cuz trading him is kinda weird.
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Good grief the Bears did well in that trade.
I hate it when the Bears do intelligent things. Hopefully they will return to form when they actually make the selections.
Guess that means the Panthers are out of the Aaron Rodgers Sweepstakes. You don't give up that much juice for the #1 overall unless you're drafting a QB. At least I don't think you do.
Have these massive trade-ups ever worked? I can't think of an example..... I guess Justin Fields is still undetermined.
Carolina is on a fire sale. Also, something I haven't seen in a while: Houston vibes.
We don’t know what dj moore is like in the lockerroom. It’s a head scratcher to get rid of him. He put up really good numbers with bad quarterbacks. It wouldn’t surprise me if he has a 10k yard career. He lit it up from day 1.
Did the old Bears' GM Ryan Pace get hired in Carolina? Smells like one of his moves, to mortgage your franchise for a top pick in the year there is no clear-cut, definitive, franchise-making QB.
Frank Reich is the new HC, maybe he's got guys he wants and doesn't. There were some trade rumors last year when CMC got traded, but still surprised they'd deal DJ Moore. If you're drafting a QB you want to surround him with talent.
I sure hope the Bears find a way to mess it up lol
They didn't have a lot of talent on their roster, those picks (plus their cap space) sure will help change that. It does signal that they plan to go with Fields at QB.
lol. I didn't really put together Frank Reich and Carolina in my mind.... that makes sense after his merry go round QB disaster in Indy.
So if you have been saying the cap don't matter and just look at the Rams who made the moves necessary to win an owl I would say look at the Rams now.
No draft capital, in cap hell, McVay almost retired, but decided losing for $14M a year would be worth it. Dumping Ramsey, trying to dump Allen Robinson and coming off a horrible season.
But the Saints!! Well, they never actually won the owl, and they haven't been very good for a few years now. In a desperate attempt to have a winning record they just gave another teams cast off $37.5M a year.
Gutes needs to right the cap. At least we haven't traded away all of our draft capital (actually improving it thru Adams and Rodgers). He put the heir apparent in place a few seasons ago. Although we can't sign any real outside talent, we should be able to keep most of our own.
Because we blew our load, we won't be in the run for an Owl for the next 2 seasons (even if we keep Rodgers). But if we spend the next 2 aquiring/developing young talent and right the cap, we might be right back in the conversation pretty quick.
Agree. My guess is they think the window with Rodgers is closed and they are looking at when the next window will open, presumably with Jordan Love.
I'm all for using cap space, but not a fan of mortgaging the future to do it. If you asked me if I'd go thru 3-5 years of losing and cap hell for a Super Bowl win, I could be talked into it. That's a lot of agony for one year of victory though.
I think GB generally do a good job of keeping their own players and restructuring rather than releasing players to keep under the cap. I think the Rodgers extension and Bakhtiari contract both were killers though. It's tough to have a number of players be the highest paid at their positions and field a good roster with depth...especially when those high earning players are on the wrong side of 30.
Last year's draft class looks like a good one.
This year's draft isn't great, but they have a chance to improve in some weaker parts of the roster, and if they draft and develop well they could slingshot back into contention.
i think we went all in a couple years ago (and decided to mortgage the future. then we came close, so management said lets keep the foot on the pedal, and push everything and then some even further down the road. in fact this all might have started 3 seasons ago
at some point we are gonna have to start releasing good players, you can't just keep restructuring forever like they've been doing
we might not go into full on rebuild more (maybe we should have started that last offseason), but at some point we are gonna have 10s of millions of dollars counting against the cap, which is gonna keep us from signing 4 or 5 guys that we might desperately need to get any better
thats why it might be a good idea to take rodgers full hit now and get rid of any other dead weight, have one shit year, and then lets go. the problem is, we are already screwing with guys contracts just so we can get rid of rodgers, so it could be an ugly 2 or 3 years, just because we kept trying to go all in
I'm not so pessimistic. Last year was a good haul in a deep draft class. A lot will ride on the success of that class.
If AR is traded, it will be tight this year, but we don't have any major holes on this team. Next year, cap will be clear and it should go up a lot too -- that's why I think a lot of teams are pushing money to the future. This last year was rocky with so many injuries and young players on the Oline and WR, but we have enough players there for next year at least. The defense did not play to expectations but pieces are there. My biggest want is resigning Nixon next year tbh. He gives us a boost we haven't had in a long long time.
Everything this year will be Jordan Love. The season hinges on his play.
I think they can do well with Love being relatively average, but playing within the system.
Lots of shit is going to hit the fan this coming week: Rodgers's decision, if Nijman will be tendered, if the team is going to make any serious effort to re-sign Tonyan or Lazard, if they can keep Nixon, and so on. Things are finally going to start happening.
Nixon definitely seems steep (but that contract is in the details). Still glad they signed him. He was my number 1 (Yosh is number 2).
Yeah, glad to hear they kept Nixon.