Who Will Aaron Rodgers Play For In 2023 (Or Will He Play)?

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Originally Posted by Fritz

I have wondered if Arod, who is not a dumb guy, has been "helping" the Jets negotiate. Surely he'd have known that the "90% sure" he was going to retire thing would lower his trade value, as it indicated he's more likely to be one-and-done than he is to play two or more years.

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You are actually wondering ?

I think the shitbag absolutely knows what he's doing.

It would almost be funny if Gutebag struck back with some Dirty Pool right back at Karen.

Trade him for a bag of shit to the worst team in the NFL who will take him. Let AROD retire. That'd be maybe our best "cap" scenario.

I am not a Gutebag fan; to be honest I still don't know what I think of his overall work. But I respect the fact he's not bending over right now for the JETS, who had compensation parameters but now have welched out of that deal.

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Originally Posted by run pMc

I 100% agree you don't give/throw him away for nothing, but determining his value is tricky in part because of age, contract, and most recent performance.
What is his value?

What is the value of a 39 year old QB who has been considering retirement the past 2-3 offseasons, has just come off his worst season as a starter, and has a $60M bonus payable before the 1st week of the season?
What is the value of a 4-time MVP QB?

You could argue the MVPs are past performance, not current value. It's possible it could approach future value, but what are the odds? Who was the last 39 year old to win MVP?

I think in a vacuum his talent and performance warrant more than a couple of Day 2 picks. His age and contract tell otherwise. That dumbass contract screws everyone in this situation IMO (except maybe Rodgers and his agent).

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As I have argued in tax court against IRS lawyers, value is what you can get. Doesn’t matter if it is $1 or $1,000,000.

Obviously, it’s taking a while but eventually it will get done. But as we both agree, you don’t let him go for nothing.

If rodgers is working behind the scenes with the jets, is this considered tampering?

Or is it anything goes because we have the jets permission to go talk to him

He’s still a packer, if he’s actively working to lower his trade value then maybe the team should file tampering changes with the league

Would be funny if the jets get stripped of multiple first round picks, and don’t even get rodgers

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Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael

I could not disagree with you more on this one Bretsky. I think the Packers owe it to him to let him play where he wants. Ideally they just cut him outright. Consider it a past good deeds thing.

The Packers signed ARod to a contract and don't want to honor it. They are choosing to move on. Don't disrespect the guy further.

Realistically they should just do the deal with Jets and take a 2nd which is a pretty good deal IMO.

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He signed the deal and the packers have no obligation to him other than to let him play it out in GB if nothin else.

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Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael

He made market rate money - if not less. He certainly would have made more as a FA. I don't like the argument that he made crazy money. It seems sort of silly to me. I don't see how it's relevant!

The Packers can't cut him - I agree - and Rodgers likely doesn't want to be cut anyway since he has such a phat deal and wouldn't get it again.

The point is the Packers signed him to a contract and Rodgers was willing to honor that - the Packers are not. As such, they should do right by the player IMO. We can agree to disagree.

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We know nothing of what each side has said to each other. I suspect this deal was signed with the idea that if either side wanted to move on they would agree to work together to make it equitable for both. But I don't know that anymore than you do for certain.

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Originally Posted by run pMc

I think in a vacuum his talent and performance warrant more than a couple of Day 2 picks. His age and contract tell otherwise. That dumbass contract screws everyone in this situation IMO (except maybe Rodgers and his agent).

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Is that what you woulda been saying after either of the previous two seasons? Or after last season if not for the injury as well as the receivers situation? The whole bunch of ya'all haters in here seems to be blinded to that stuff. Outside of this forum, people don't seem to be that damn dumb. Probably the Jets are not. Hopefully LaFleur, Gutekunst, etc. are not.

I'm really really hoping both sides stand firm, and no trade happens. Would Rodgers then retire? I very much doubt it.

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Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker

What both sides have to lose hahahaha .......

For the Jets, it's the difference between being a Super Bowl contender, one of the best teams in the NFL with Rodgers, and in the abyss - again - without him.

For the Packers, if by some miracle, Rodgers comes back and plays as well as anybody with a brain expects he can/will, they are at or very close to the absolute top of the NFL. If he is gone, no amount of high draft picks are gonna prevent them from falling to near the bottom of the league for who knows how many years without him.

So making the trade happen means everything to the Jets and nothing to the Packers - before the draft or after, before June or after, that's just the way it is.

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This is the post that says it all: for you, whoever has Rodgers (Jets or Packers) is going to be great. Whoever doesn't have him is going to suck.

So if you turn out to be wrong, this is the post I'll bump. If you're right, you can bump it.

Yeah, feel free to do that. I definitely will be doing that and rubbing it in to all of ya'all when it turns out to be true. That's pretty much why I wrote it.

For the record, though, I didn't say "suck". I said "be mediocre" - they might win 6-8 games without him, the Packers I mean. The Jets without him will continue to suck.

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Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker

Yeah, feel free to do that. I definitely will be doing that and rubbing it in to all of ya'all when it turns out to be true. That's pretty much why I wrote it.

For the record, though, I didn't say "suck". I said "be mediocre" - they might win 6-8 games without him, the Packers I mean. The Jets without him will continue to suck.

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For me, in a seventeen-game regular season, eight or nine wins is mediocre. Six is definately suckage. Seven is, in my mind, pretty sucky, too.

Rodgers arriving in snowy Green Bay for offseason workouts. Maybe Tex was right!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1648036237389754386

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Originally Posted by Joemailman

Rodgers arriving in snowy Green Bay for offseason workouts. Maybe Tex was right!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1648036237389754386

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Funny!
He never shows up for these, not about to start now.
They'd send him home anyway, can't risk him getting hurt pre-trade.

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Originally Posted by red

If rodgers is working behind the scenes with the jets, is this considered tampering?

Or is it anything goes because we have the jets permission to go talk to him

He’s still a packer, if he’s actively working to lower his trade value then maybe the team should file tampering changes with the league

Would be funny if the jets get stripped of multiple first round picks, and don’t even get rodgers

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There is a rumor -- I hesitate mentioning it -- that Rodgers has told the Jets to hold firm on their side for trade comp. I'm starting to think Rodgers and Gute don't like each other. ;)
Honestly I think it will get done on draft day. No big rush until then.

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Originally Posted by Joemailman

Rodgers arriving in snowy Green Bay for offseason workouts. Maybe Tex was right!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1648036237389754386

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Good News if true. A wife beater shirt, and sunny sky with snow falling ...... I'm no expert on photoshopping, but that seems a little suspicious.

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Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker

Good News if true. A wife beater shirt, and sunny sky with snow falling ...... I'm no expert on photoshopping, but that seems a little suspicious.

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God damn media pukes.

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Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker

Yeah, feel free to do that. I definitely will be doing that and rubbing it in to all of ya'all when it turns out to be true. That's pretty much why I wrote it.

For the record, though, I didn't say "suck". I said "be mediocre" - they might win 6-8 games without him, the Packers I mean. The Jets without him will continue to suck.

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They only win 8 with him. So sounds about the same then :)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...e28f25f14&ei=7

Perhaps Tennessee gets into the mix ?

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Originally Posted by Bretsky

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...e28f25f14&ei=7

Perhaps Tennessee gets into the mix ?

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Still think 49ers are more likely. Purdy says he doesn't know if he will play this year.

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Originally Posted by Joemailman

Still think 49ers are more likely. Purdy says he doesn't know if he will play this year.

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How many years does Aiyuk have on his current contract ? He could be a piece to the deal

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Originally Posted by Bretsky

How many years does Aiyuk have on his current contract ? He could be a piece to the deal

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He's in the last year of his contract.

that would be awesome to ship him to one of those 2 teams after the jets changed their offer

i'd say if one of those two offers the same shit deal that the jets are offering, then i say we send him to one of those 2

even if its in the nfc to the 49ers, i don't care

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Originally Posted by red

that would be awesome to ship him to one of those 2 teams after the jets changed their offer

i'd say if one of those two offers the same shit deal that the jets are offering, then i say we send him to one of those 2

even if its in the nfc to the 49ers, i don't care

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If the jets are being pricks, im fine taking a little less just to fuck them. But the real fuckening went down last year when 12 forced that contract!

Nothing like other teams showing interest to remind Woody Johnson and Joe Douglas that they don't have the rights to Aaron Rodgers's services just yet.

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Originally Posted by run pMc

There is a rumor -- I hesitate mentioning it -- that Rodgers has told the Jets to hold firm on their side for trade comp. I'm starting to think Rodgers and Gute don't like each other. ;)
Honestly I think it will get done on draft day. No big rush until then.

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If I were in charge of the Pack, I would NEVER deal with the fucking Jets ever again. This is low-rent action.

draft night might be interesting

say a team doesn't like anything of value at their pick, and they just say "fuck it, what about rodgers?"

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Originally Posted by red

draft night might be interesting

say a team doesn't like anything of value at their pick, and they just say "fuck it, what about rodgers?"

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REAL QUESTION

Karen doesn't have a "no trade" clause


So trade his ass, watch him retire....isn't that the best case for our cap ????

No team will give up anything of value if they aren't pretty damn sure he won't retire.

Correct. No team is going to trade anything of value for a QB that will promptly retire on them.

Here's some snark from Tanier:
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/wa...-aaron-rodgers

This was interesting:

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Fans who are truly over-the-moon about Rodgers’ pending arrival can pick the Jets to win the AFC East at +260 (The Buffalo Bills are the favorites at +125); the AFC at +900 (the Kansas City Chiefs are the favorites at +380); or the Super Bowl at +1400 (Chiefs, +600). Again, these numbers have been more-or-less sticky for nearly a month.

Rodgers is getting +1600 odds for the 2023 Most Valuable Player award, and if things go very specifically haywire, current Jets quarterback Zach Wilson is getting +5000 odds for Comeback Player of the Year. You can do it, Zach! Prove the doubters wrong!

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Those odds say a thing or two about what the bookies think of Rodgers at this point of his career.

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Originally Posted by sharpe1027

No team will give up anything of value if they aren't pretty damn sure he won't retire.

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there is like less the 1% chance he's gonna retire. i don't care what the drama queen says about being 90% retired

he's not giving up the 58 million, even if he gets shipped to the texans or some other mismanaged mess

2nd. tom brady is also currently retired, meaning if karen retires, they both go into the HOF on the same day. erins ego won't allow he to be second fiddle on induction day

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Originally Posted by red

there is like less the 1% chance he's gonna retire. i don't care what the drama queen says about being 90% retired

he's not giving up the 58 million, even if he gets shipped to the texans or some other mismanaged mess

2nd. tom brady is also currently retired, meaning if karen retires, they both go into the HOF on the same day. erins ego won't allow he to be second fiddle on induction day

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That assumes Brady is a first ballot inductee. Was he that good?

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Originally Posted by sharpe1027

That assumes Brady is a first ballot inductee. Was he that good?

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More of a game manager.

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Originally Posted by sharpe1027

That assumes Brady is a first ballot inductee. Was he that good?

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and it assumes he stays retired this time

Congratulations to beveaux1, George Cumby, Jaire, jklowan, Joemailman, KYPack, NewsBruin, RashanGary, Spaulding, and Upnorth for picking the Jets.