He also had several average (bad for him) years before his MVP years. I think there's more to it than his thumb.
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Even if you buy Tex's reasoning - it wasn't Rodgers declining, it was the thumb injury and the supporting cast! (which I don't buy) - Tex's assertion that any of these circumstances are "extremely unlikely to occur again" does not take into account that Rodgers is a very old player in a young man's league who is in fact more likely to get hurt as time goes on. He's not as mobile in the pocket, for sure, and is therefore more likely to get hit and injured. One argument you could make is that Rodgers really, really needs an offensive line that can keep him clean for a long time on every play.
I would argue, as I have for many years, that Rodgers never had an O Line that did a good job protecting. He was hurried and/or forced out of the pocket virtually every pass play his whole career. Granted he was a tad bit less mobile this past season, but not much. As for being old in a young man's league, it's NOT a young QB league. Anything Brady could do at 44, certainly Rodgers could do at 40, and probably at 41-44 too.
As for the "self-absorbed shitbag" stuff, I would say that's about 98% the creation of media pukes. There is literally no evidence of any of that toward Packer players, coaches, even fans.
i've been convinced for awhile that he either doesn't actually watch the games, or someone at the nursing home is just putting in old VHS tapes of highlights from years ago
I think it's just dementia. He is divorced from reality.
Somehow, I don't think Packer fans in general - outside of this forum - are so hung up on thinking the Packers O Line has pass blocked good/unable to see pass rushers roaring in virtually every play needing to be dodged or whatever. That's in stark contrast to what Brady, Brees, and probably well over half of the QBs around the league had for pass blocking. And it happened the most from outside rushers, especially on the blind side where that sacred cow has grazed for so long.
This is a pretty good theory. It's at least as good as any explanations or rationalizations he's put forth.
Interesting to think that GB's OL has been bad for 15 years and he's scrambling for his life all that time, when many consider his off-schedule throws and ad-libbed adjustments (which require him to run around and the OL to hold their blocks MUCH longer than other teams) to be what separates him. Oh yeah, and there's the fact that GB's OL consistently ranks in the top 10 if not top 5 of pass blocking metrics. Go watch the OL for some other teams: Cincinnati, Houston, LA (either team), or Chicago. There are a lot of teams who can barely find 3 average level starters, GB has done much better than that.
How soon some forget Sitton, Lang, Rivera, Wahle, Clifton, Tauscher, Linsley, Tretter, etc.
For giggles, go check out some of the OL's Holmgren and Wolf rolled out in the early Favre years. It's like a who's who of who's that.
Tex,
Would you have any evidence to support your OL has always sucked theory, such as Pro Football Ratings on OL's with AROD...etc......or is this just an argument w/o any merit and your hunch
Regarding AROD being a shit bad, he's the media whore that brought this on to himself. Just listen to all his attention media whore weekly shows. One can argue he's the goat, or the in season MVP. Or top 10..etc...lots of debate.
Not many debate whether or not he's a shitbag IMO
Nope. Just what I've seen for well over a decade.
Regarding Rodgers, undoubtedly the McAfee thing began as a result of all the stupid shit posted about him by media pukes. I really don't give a shit if he's a "shitbag" or not as long as he is the primary thing making my favorite team a winner. I think, though, most of that image or whatever you'd call it comes from knownothing shitheads of the media.
GB resigning Dallin Leavitt. Rich Bisaccia is the GB GM.
Leavitt's fine on ST but how many ST safeties are they going to sign? None of them can play safety full time. Rudy Ford has his moments, but he got exposed at times and was replaced by Savage (who Ford replaced).
What's John Johnson III doing? He was recently released by CLE and had a couple of good years with LAR in this scheme.
Tight End or WR in the first round?
Love needs some playmakers he can "grow up" with. The Pack will have to break with tradition I think.
I think they go OT, DL or EDGE in R1, unless they are absolutely in love with JSN. I think they look at a receiver in Day 2, and then take a couple on Day 3. (i.e., 3 total from WR/TE groups)
Maybe Gute proves everyone wrong and trolls Rodgers by drafting a WR in R1 the year he's traded. Doubt it though.
Agree he needs playmakers. Early in the Rodgers era TT loaded up on skill players every year: Greg Jennings, Jordy, James Jones, Jermichael, then Cobb and Adams later... I think they are going to have to do that to build up depth and talent again.
They have a few playmakers (Watson, Aaron Jones) but they need much more than that.