Originally Posted by
Smeefers
Hey wood, I never said that those who support favre should turn in their loyalty cards or anything to the such. I've never blamed the NY Giants loss solely on Favre. I think both of those ideas are crazy.
All I have stated is that I Loved Favre for how he played in Green Bay and the great memories he gave us. Unfortunately he tainted all those memories with the way he left and he did so in the following ways:
1. For years he refused to tell the media if he was coming back or not. So we had to play the guessing game and we were essentially held hostage by his whims.
2. After actually retiring he came back and created a very uncomfortable situation in Green Bay.
3. He spoke publicly demonizing our organization. (Greta)
4. He said real packer fans would support him leaving.
At this point he went to the Jets and things were fine for me. I didn't love him, but I didn't hate him. I wished him luck in his endevours. Given a couple years of things cooling down, I would have welcomed him back with open arms. But then...
4. He retired from the Jets just to get our of his deal in order to specifically go to the Vikings (arguably our greatest division rival) in order to play and beat us, which he did, handidly.
5. After retiring for good (hopefully) from the Vikings, he continued to bad mouth the packers via contacting the Lions to give hints and wishing Urlacker the best of luck against us.
And so now I hold a much greater animosity towards him. It became personal because I do Identify with the packers and his attacks on them feel like attacks on me. The more he did to insure the packers failed, the more I disliked him, but the real breaking point was him signing up for the Vikings. He probably could have done all those other things and I would have forgiven him easily once the dust settled, but going to the Vikings was the real killer. That turned him from hero to villain in my eyes. And so, as I discussed earlier with Nutz, in order for me to change my mind on him, he has to work towards erasing the ill will he has built up now. If he would attempt to mend the rift between himself and the Packers, I could still see myself forgiving him. That has yet to happen and so I continue to dislike him, but I do eagerly await for the day that he changes my mind.
I understand why some people still support him and I don't think that makes them any less a packer fan. They just happen to be Packers fans and Favre fans. Just because I can't reconcile the differences doesn't mean other people can't.
I also understand why people think it must be one or the other, because there's such a huge divide between the two. It's like being a die hard Boston fan and a die hard Yankees fan at the same time. I'm not saying that's right, but I see where they're coming from.