shamrock,
If I had a salary cap question, would you be able to answer it?
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shamrock,
If I had a salary cap question, would you be able to answer it?
Shamrock, do you have a favorite cartoon character?
tyler
the differance between the two GM's is time. We can look back on Wolf and say he did this right and that right, he had his bases covered when he refused to make this or that move. but with Thompson, he dosen't have a history in GB. So we can't make the same comparisons. ya we can look back to seatle but then the argument is made was it the holmgren or him. who is to say whether or not he made offers to players that came thru greenbay this year or not. maybe he was outbid. he is not as open as wolf IS. especially now when he has no ties to the franchise.
my thought is that we have to give this guy a chance, whether he succeds or fails give him a chance. he has only had one year. how can you be judged on that alone! give the guy some time.
What sport?Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers
Football, baby.
Ally Oop. I think it is a long-discontinued comic strip. Anyone remember him? He was a caveman.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacks smirking revenge
Mmm. I think the mention of Patler was a Freudien slip. :mrgreen:Quote:
Originally Posted by shamrockfan
I dunno HW and Jack. You could be right. I was going on the fact that his posts were basically gramatically correct, and devoid of spalling erros. Both pretty uncommon at JSO. Also tends to use the same tense.
A quick search back at 'Has TT Really done nothing' shows me some lists of facts Pat was known for. So I'll agree, although I haven't seen enough numbers to convince me!
'course you are him Patler, I wanna know why you didn't respond to my PM at JSO! :cry:
No, no, no. The Bender's still produce it. And it's Alley Oop (nice try at inserting a spelling error)Quote:
Originally Posted by shamrockfan
If you want to see the daily strip, go to http://www.comics.com/comics/alleyoop/index.html
Right now, Tunk just invaded because he thought Guz stole his crown. Someone found it under a bush, and Alley and Guz had Dinny and his pals chase them out of Moo. :smile:
Guiness, that's fantastic! I have not seen it in years! I just assumed it had gone to that great comic section in the sky!
Insert Verba for Whale then. The timeline after all these years isn't 100% on but it's close enough. The main point is that they had a replacement ready. They had it covered and they did have a guy on the team that had the talent, though developing, to be an all-pro. Sometimes you just have to toss that player in and devleop them.Quote:
Originally Posted by shamrockfan
Actually, Wolf really "lucked" out during that whole time period, but he made his own luck by drafting well.Quote:
Originally Posted by gureski
In 1997 Verba took over at left tackle for the inept John Michaels.
In 1998 Aaron Taylor left. The untested Marco Rivera took over at LG and struggled, but survived.
1n 1999 Timmerman left, Rivera moved from LG to RG and Wahle/McKenzie struggled together at left guard.
In 2000 Verba moved to guard, Wahle moved to tackle and was horrible. Luckily the untested rookie, Chad Clifton was inserted into the starting lineup in place of Wahle and solidified things. However, even worse was the fact that Earl Dotson went down for the year, and Mark Tauscher, an afterthought for many, stepped in also as a rookie.
In 2001 Verba left and Wahle came back in at LG, struggled but then settled in. Also, Flanagan replaced Winters as the starter at center.
With the exception of Rivera, it was musical chairs in the O-line for 5 years, and 4 of the 5 starters were replaced in two years.
Wolf changed guards at the drop of a hat. From 1991 to 2000 the starters LG & RG were:
Moran & Hallstrom
Moran/Winters & Hallstrom
Widell & Galbreath
McIntyre/Winters & Galbreath
Taylor & Galbreath
Taylor & Timmerman
Taylor & Timmerman
Rivera & Timmerman
McKenzie/Wahle & Rivera
Verba & Rivera.
10 years and 12 different starters. Never went more than two years with the same combination of guards. Only Taylor and Timmerman started at the same position for as much as 3 years.
And you know Patler, because...?Quote:
Originally Posted by shamrockfan
The very first day I was here, the first string I opened to read was about Faine. The string started with two long quotations from "Patler" that had been copied and pasted by Partial. I asked who "Patler" was and was directed to his postings on JSonline. He has been mentioned several times since. I've read some of his postings on JSonline.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarlam!
I remember when Dotson went down - I live near Buffalo, and the game was locally televised. Tauscher came trotting out and I was thinking "who is this guy, and what are we in for now?"Quote:
Originally Posted by shamrockfan
He wasn't exactly on the radar, as I recall.
Yes, and I dedicate a thread in the beloved Badger section and he still doens't show up.Quote:
Originally Posted by shamrockfan
Um, Gureski? Wahle was nowhere near being a starting guard at that time as his rookie season was Timmermans's last season in GB. In fact, Wahle was in the dog house with many in his first couple of seasons even after Timmerman was gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by gureski
That was my whole point - was why we didn't even attempt to resign Timmerman. Do we know he would require a 3 million dollar salary to stay in GB? No, we do not. No biggie, I was just speculation on one guy that I was sad to see leave GB, when it possibly could have been avoided.
There is speculation that you and patler are one and the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by shamrockfan
And I'm afraid you are now condemned to forever live under the clowd of this horrible accusation. (Only kidding, patler is fine.)
It wouldn't be patler's style to deny a direct question, he's a rather honest fellow. But then again, if you really WERE patler, he'd be too proud to admit his deception!
You poor man, forever stained by doubt.
Arrite, Swede.Quote:
Originally Posted by swede
You are a decent sort, so I'll lighten up on Baby Tanky if it bothers ya.
You see Tank did a lot of stupid and immature stuff on the old Forum, so I like to call him on some of his foolishness. It doesn't really keep him in line, but I was letting him know WE ARE AWARE of his nonsense.
This is the Packer Rat pool of domestic tranquility & I don't wanna be the one to make waves.
Who said he's a man?Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
Oh. That speculation belongs in another forum...
What direct question?Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
What deception?