Good, I don't trust a back who is injured in college and gets a lot of crazy yard games against inferior teams.
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I think Fournette will disappoint in the NFL. I too, see a guy who seems to get hurt a lot. Also, he disappears in big games.
Good year to draft a running back. Could be as many as 10 or more taken in the first 3 rounds. Any love around here from Badger fans for taking Clement in the 3-4 rounds?
Another interesting name is Nick Chubb. Ran for over 1500 yards at Georgia in 2014, and was probably the favorite to win the Heisman in 2015 before a terrible knee injury half way through the season. Played well this season although numbers were down averaging 4.8 YPC on 207 carries. It will be interesting to see when teams are willing to pull the trigger on him. CBS currently has him rated a 2-3 round prospect.
I say draft Nick Chub. I want to get a t-shirt with his Packer number on the back,and on the front it'll say "I've got a chubbie!" with his picture on the front, preferably holding a giant turkey leg dripping with barbecue sauce. And if you position the turkey leg pointing straight up in front of his mouth, that's even better.
My draft board is admittedly based on different metrics than most.
Pair him in the backfield with Lacy: Chubb and Chubby.
PJ Hill. I was trying to remember the truly mediocre Badger tailbacks, and kept coming up with guys who were better than mediocre, like Calhoun and Fletcher. PJ Hill fits the bill.
Random Badger note:
Tom Oates @TomOatesWSJ 51m51 minutes ago
NFL teams told @BobMcGinn that #Badgers LT Ryan Ramczyk will have arthroscopic surgery to fix torn labrum in hip after bowl. Out 4 months.
theres a video out of mixon from oklahoma punching some chick in the face, suppose to be worse then the ray rice video
theres a first rounder making sure he goes undrafted
How NFL teams are evaluating and valuing athletic explosion in their draft prospects.
https://theringer.com/nfl-playoffs-d...837#.53qbakza4
- 3 cone, broad jump, vertical jump, short shuttle
- These are all claims you have seen before, Seahawks used a more refined system from Nike called SPARQ that launched a bunch of imitators
Data on similar numbers for players, see Jason Spriggs at 10th for all O lineman n 2016 draft.
https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/ol/
I dunno if he'll last until we pick but I want TJ Watt like no tomorrow. High ceiling, high floor. I think he'll test worse than some would expect since I don't think he's a burner, but I think he'll be a darn fine NFL pass rusher.
The correlation between SPARQ rating and Packer personnel transactions is striking. I've been watching it for a while now. I posted the following in early September:
Yes, Spriggs is rated #10, but what's more telling is Lucas Patrick is rated #7 and he happens to be on TT's practice squad.
Look at where these other Packers fare with respect to SPARQ position rankings:
Beau Sandland #3; Josh Hawkins #7; Kentrell Brice #10; Trevor Davis #11; Ty Montgomery #15; Jermaine Whitehead #15; Marwin Evans #18; John Crockett #19; Keith Baxter #20; Christian Ringo #35; Joe Kerridge #37.
Virtually everytime TT puts an "unknown" name on the roster or the practice squad, that player's SPARQ rating is off the charts, or at least in the top 50. In many cases these lesser known players have SPARQ position ratings higher than those of the more recognizable, marquee players.
I'm not saying it's TT's only criteria and a high SPARQ position rating is by no means a guarantee of success in the NFL, but it seems to be a better indicator than most and I have to believe TT puts an inordinate amount of stock in it.
^ Yep. Its no accident the Packers have seemed to be getting faster these days. Put an emphasis on coaching though. Whitt will thrive.
There was a moment a few years ago where Ted mentioned that he had started to hire people to dig into analytics in player personnel. He said it was something he was not comfortable with but felt he had to get comfortable with, or something similar.
I had hoped a writer would revisit this and I haven't seen anyone do it. But I think Maxie's post and that Ringer article make it clear he has moved in that direction.
Agree with drafting Nick Chubb.
Then we could have Chubby & Stubby.
Packers eligible for 2 compensatory picks, but only get one for Hayward as Tolzien is ranked one spot over the limit. 5th comp pick of 5th round.
http://overthecap.com/projecting-201...y-draft-picks/
hate to curse the idea of TJ Watt being a Badger, but I'm on the wagon for GB to draft him...just iike...........Troy Vincent ....lol
Getting T.J. Watt as a bargain pick - 2nd or 3rd round - would be great. I'm not so sure we don't need other things more in the first round - like maybe a cover Corner. If you think about it, though, several of our perceived needs have kinda melted away recently - RB, WR, TE, O Line, D Line, maybe even ILB. All of those things have begun to look pretty solid.
Bloodline is like speed, you can't teach it. I like Watt. He's got a great future in the NFL.
There is no way he is lasting that long. I think there is about a 20% chance at best he lasts until the Packers pick. He is probably the #2 pass rusher. Tim Williams from Alabama is a great pass rusher - clearly more talented - but he has been in trouble and my gut feeling is his floor is a lot lower.
TJ is a Watt, so you know he's going to work hard and be a good locker room guy. While his ceiling may be less high than a Tim Williams, I think his floor is a lot higher. I like him a lot.
Deshaun Watson is a keeper. He looked like Arod last night. At this point he looks to be the best among a strong group of QB prospects. Can you imagine the Giants or the Patriots somehow winding up with this kid to take over for Eli or Brady? Or how about Denver, Buffalo, the Jets, the Texans, hell even the Bears or the Vikings? IMO this guy could turn a good team lacking a strong QB into a real contender.
Reading the little puff piece on Jabrill Peppers
A DE that returned punts? WTF?Quote:
A Heisman Trophy finalist in 2016, Peppers played both defensive back and linebacker in his three years at Michigan and also was a dynamic punt returner who led the Big Ten in punt return yards last season.
Jabill is a db who played lb in college, but there's no way he can do that in the pros
I think he weights 205
Yeah, here in southeast Michigan many fans are all hot for the Loins to take Peppers. Go ahead, I say. He came in as a corner, then was switched to safety, supposedly because the team "needed" him there, but in truth he wasn't a very good corner. I don't think he's got that twitch and speed, nor does he have great length. Then this year they made him a kind of hybrid safety/linebacker. He ran some plays on offense, trick end-around kind of stuff mostly.
To me, he's a bunch of hype. All show and not much go.
I would agree.
As for the compensation pick, it seems as if the Packers inevitable end up with fifth-round picks, whether the guy signs with someone else with a huge contract but has a lousy year (Tramon Williams) or signs for an okay contract but has a very good year (Casey Hayward).
On the other hand, T.J. has already had a couple serious injuries, and even J.J. is starting to be a little bit prone to injury at too young an age. Somebody said he is rated the 10th best pass rushing LB? I doubt he is the tenth picked, but I'd be surprised if he went before the Packers pick in the first round, and I wouldn't be shocked if he was still there in the second, especially with a bit of a trade up.
Agree on Peppers, he's a SS prospect with limited coverage skills. He's going to help out vs the run, but he's going to be a liability vs the pass. Someone's going to draft him too high, IMO. He's a great athlete though with outstanding straight away speed (like Janis).
Peppers kind of reminds me of last year's phenom Miles Killebrew (sp). Same kind of hybrid player that was hyped up the draft board. Turned out to be a SS, not a super star.
On the other hand, Su'a Cravens is the same body type and he's making out pretty good as an ILB.
So, with all these guys, the proof is in the pudding.
Daniel Jeremiah @MoveTheSticks 31m31 minutes ago
This draft has the deepest/most talented group of CBs I've seen in several years. Also, loaded with edge rushers, safeties, RBs and TEs.
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Smooth. Instinctive. Great ballskills. Versatile. White will be one of the best players in Mobile. Thrilled to see him in person.