I don't know. The colts lost Peyton and got the #1 pick and the entire regime was fired.
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The NFL is 'Business Driven' above all else. The Packer BRASS know certainly that whatever they march out on the field will Sell Out Lambeau Field. As a result of Fan response how much can really be expected to change? NOT TOO MUCH !
Next year we will see TT doing what he tries again to do best and Draft a new Draft Class for the 2018-19 Season. Mike McCarthy will be telling us just how pleased he is with his Roster. Packer Nation will be Packer Nation.
It's as OUR WORLD and The Green Bay Packers Turns. Ohh Dear !
Onto T.J Lang:
T.J. Lang loved being a Green Bay Packer' and TT allowed him to get out there and get a better deal for himself than TT was willing to pay.
Lang hit the GOLD Pot for himself. End of story.
GO PACK GO !
Funny, just had lunch with 1 of the Packers front office staff CPAs, he said there is nothing else the Packers can do with their profits but reinvest in the facilities and the team. The can’t declare a dividend and payout their cash. They don’t have an owner that draws a salary and takes a distribution. So the stupid notion that the Packers don’t care as long as the stadium is full is complete bs.
He also said most of the players were feeling better after the bye week. I made a joke about Spriggs coming back and he said they still haven’t decided on who if anyone would be released to make room for him.
I was talking to Paul Baniel, VP of Financial & Administration.
Really, nice guy.
I said the one thing I would love as a ticket holder is 4 more inches for my seat. I said I knew they could never do it. Paul said he has tickets at the end of a row and he is lucky to have 1 butt cheek on the bleachers during the cold games.
Then another guy at our table said the Packers should put seats in instead of bleachers. Paul just laughed. He said when the Packers put the south endzone addition on it was briefly looked at. They would have lost more than 10,000 seats.
PBMax imagination:
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Reality:
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I would say the verdict is in on this dumpster fire. MM was ill prepared with his hand trained backup QB. I can't recall who our punt returner is anymore. The only 3rd down stop we had all day our best defensive player headbutted someone. And this was all after a bye week.
I do believe that the collective bargaining rule changes have hurt team stubby. Draft and develop is much harder and teams around the NFL are putting forth shit products (except the eagles). Also if this doesn't do Dom Capers in, mail in next year too.
Mike McCarthy gives max credit for the Lions win last night to their success on 3rd downs differential.
He said words to this effect ' looking at it Stafford threw the heck out of the ball '.
An honest or more forthright Head Coach might have simply said 'we simply stunk out there that Packer team looked bad onbothsides of the ball '.
It sure appears to me that we're stuck with both TT and MM and likely because 'it's just one Big Family' Dom Capers too.
Read this 'loud and clear':
Brett Hundley is not an NFL quality QB.
If Colin Kapernick is being Black Balled we are about to find out as either the Texans or the GREEN BAY Packers should logically sign him like today. Ted Thompson will get another fail if he doesn't do something and QB today because right now he doesn't have an NFL QB that is capable of winning unless all the Packer WR's get on board and trying to catch not much more than a 30 yard pass. Brett Hundley looks really bad, really rattled. He's not a decent QB with the temperment I see.
Ted Thompson sign Colin Kapernick today or do something else that's more positive and another obvious miss and drafting Bret Hundley. What were you thinking TT given how he played the position in College; a miracle !?
He would at least get a tryout.
I think everybody can see that Kap is being shunned becuz he is perceived as toxic. He did enough good as an NFL starter that somebody would want to try to fix his shortcomings. Perhaps some coach who fashions himself a QB whisperer would jump on the potential there. Kap comes cheap.
We are stuck with the 3 stooges. I have been saying for years that the Packers org is happy with the status quo.
Packer Nation cries out !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO7N2tFb0X8
I'm not sure they're going to win another game. This was my initial SWAG after the injury. Baltimore is getting healthy again I think, and Cleveland might just be able to beat us, lol.
Capers won't be back IMO.
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Saints - L 38-16
Not a ton of time to prepare, Saints had offensive burst against DET so expect more of the same.
Lions - L 35-17
MM is legit off the bye but DET too good. Stafford is much better than what's-his-face.
@Bears - L 24-21
John Fox is a great coach coaching for his job, he'll have his team ready to go here.
Ravens - W 21-17
John Harbaugh is the second best coach in the NFL but they just don't have it movin' right now. Is Flocco back yet?
@Steelers - L 35-13
Heinz field will be rockin'. Tough place, tough team.
Buccaneers - Coin flip
Could go either way. Bucs have some young talent and seem poised to get it going soonish.
@Browns - W 24-7
LOL. Da Browns got nothing but Joe Thomas.
@Panthers - L 38-16 If Kuchley is playing
Panthers are a different team with LK. If he's playing, they are a super bowl contender in NFC. If not, well, we all saw 2016.
Vikings - L 27-16
Vikes are the best team in the NFCN but Detroit has the better QB. Expect Vikes to win this game and drop close division to DET.
@Lions - L 35-16 Happy New Year
Stafford clinches the division and is the most beloved player in the league.
I've got 'em winning at most 3 more games. This is just spit balling off the top of my head. I'm wrong a lot so I'll probably be wrong here too.
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Mike McCarthy May Have Put Himself on Hot Seat With Postgame Quote
BY: Dan O'Shea .....07 NOV 2017
Ryan Wood ✔@ByRyanWood
Mike McCarthy: "Brett Hundley played better today. I have great faith in Brett Hundley. Brett Hundley is not our issue right now." 12:58 AM - Nov 7, 2017
"...If you're not blaming the loss on Hundley, then it has to fall on his shoulders.
It's come to a point where it's hard to ignore the Packers' abysmal record without Aaron Rodgers in.
He's one of the best players in the league and certainly leaves a huge hole in this offense now that he's out with a broken collarbone, but this season should not go up in flames now that he's on the sidelines.
It's unfair to compare, but look what happened to the Patriots when Tom Brady was lost for the season with a knee injury years ago. They still managed to win double-digit games without arguably the greatest quarterback of all time. .
The fact that this team can't generate any offense at all means they're poorly coached. ..."
I hate to disappoint you but McCarthy isn't on the hot seat. Capers is another case entirely. His defenses have been woeful for a while now but #12 had been able to mask it. I consider losing Rodgers might end up being a blessing in disguise. It will force Mac to finally make a change on that side of the ball this offseason. When Brady was lost for the season NE had a functioning defense.
What exactly would it take to put Stubby on the hot seat in GB? Personally, I think the guy is bullet-proof no matter what he does or doesn't do. He's kind of the Marv Levy of the NFC with a Super Bowl ring.
Nobody's going to blame him for injuries. On the other hand, he's pretty much bet the team's season on Hundley. And he's double-downed on that bet, saying he "knows" what ails the team and it ain't Hundley. He's also said that he's learned from previous Arod injuries not to expect the substitute QB to do what Arod does. That implies he has a plan to at least make Hundley serviceable. Maybe he does, yet, after a long bye week, playing at home, we're still waiting. Maybe things will improve the rest of the way. Maybe not.
The irony is that Stubby might do what he does best: coach with his back to the wall, rally the troops and eek us into the playoffs where he can do what he does second best...lose to a team with an elite QB. Then, TT can do what he does best: draft at the tail end of the 1st round and develop...again.
It's what we've come to know as business as usual in GB. To say I've got mixed feelings about that is an understatement if there ever was one.:-|
M3 is safe. He's done enough over his career to earn a pass for struggling with his starting QB out.
When the opposing team never punts it's pretty easy not to heap the bulk of the blame on your marginal QB.
In fairness, other than red zone efficiency Detroit's offense is pretty good. But the Packer defense made them look great. The Packer D has had two terrible games in a row. But it was against teams with pro bowl QBs.
McCarthy is only one part of the decision to have Hundley be the backup QB. Thompson has final roster say. The decision to stick with Hundley isn't going to hurt him with Thompson.
A malfunctioning offense for the rest of the season might.
But the biggest bone of contention will be the defense. The 3rd down problem has been there through a LOT of years and personnel. Thompson has said he doesn't like telling a coach who his assistants should be, but if the team decides Capers needs to go, McCarthy might balk. He has gone to the mat publicly for Capers before.
That's a bit of a contradiction...Thompson "doesn't like telling a coach who his assistants should be," but has "final say" on who his backup QB should be? I think both TT and Stubby completely committed to Hundley as the backup a year or two ago. Both are fully invested in him because I think they genuinely like him as a person and know he has the physical tools. Hundley's problem is between his ears. Maybe Stubby can fix that, maybe he can't. Time will tell for sure.
Its not a contradiction any more that Wolf telling Holmgren that despite Wolf having final roster say he would never stick Holmy with a player he truly did not want on his team. Thompson could fire the entire assistant coaching staff and retain only Edgar Bennett by the letter of his contract, doesn't mean he is going to do it.
McGinn surmised (all but said it happened this way but with no sources other than the voices in his head) that Thompson wanted to fire Sanders a year before McCarthy ended up announcing the defensive coaches were out. Did Thompson order this? Probably not by my read, but I suspect, as Bob does, that he made his view known to the HC.
I suspect they know what is going on in Hundley's head much better now that when he was a rookie or that scouting report was created. They've been living with him for three years. They trusted Rodgers, I am giving them a free one on Hundley.
Bring Black Graham Harrell!!!
The Packers have answered this thread - They're shutting up.
New England also had a functioning Offense....right !?
How many games did the NE Patriots win in the Season that Tom Brady was lost and they were forced to a Backup QB? Was the Backup QB position effective or not?
Did Mike McCarthy have that done and his Backup QB? Does Green Bay have a positively effective or winning Backup QB? Does Brett Hundley look like a winner to you Pugger? If not why is that the case?
Is it on MM or TT or a combination of both to have an effective or capable of winning Backup QB ready to go and in any need?
How many games do you reasonably project that the Green Bay Packers will win to Seasons end with MM's Backup QB being Brett Hundley? Are you as a Packer fan optimistic or in any sense of reality hopeful?
It sure appears at this time the correct response to my question (s) is what Pugger?
Arn't the Green Bay Packers damned at the Backup QB position?
Here are Matt Cassel's 1st 5 games as Brady's replacement in 2008:
13/18, 152 yards 1TD NE Points for Game - 17
16/23, 165 yards NE Points for Game - 19
19/31, 131 yards 1TD, 1INT NE Points for Game - 13
22/32, 259 yards 1TD, 2INT NE Points for Game - 30
22/38, 203 yards 1INT NE Points for Game - 10
Should NE have been looking for a different backup QB after those 5 games?
Could you imagine losing 38-13 and your backup QB going 19/31, 131 yards 1TD and 1 INT Rating of 68.1?
Woodbuck would be asking for that whole front office and every coach in NE to be fired.