A number of people are projecting Hageman around the Packers pick.
If he's BPA, go for it, but a safety/linebacker should be the priority.
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for me, with the scheme we run, i think its a massive waste to spend high draft picks on d-linemen
look at our high round picks
raji-bust
neal-bust as a lineman who knows as a LB
worthy- looking like a possible bust
datone- not a good first year
now lets look at the guys who have played well
jolly- 6th round
cj wilson- 7th round
boyd- much better first year then jones- 5th
mike daniels-4th
and the only other guy on our line was a free agent signing
see a pattern?
stick to the mid to late round fat ugly guys who didn't get all the glory in college. those are the guys we need
Anything that diminishes death is probably a good thing. But, big lineman aren't necessarily good, especially if thy are on IR (Jolly), have a bad leg (Pickett), or are generally lazy/miscast (Raji).
Packers probably need to bring in an effective fatty run stopper in FA, and another from the draft. If the current group doesn't contain enough guys to generate pass rush on obvious passing downs, then they are out of luck, because they drafted enough of 'em.
I like the Hageman guy from MN. Guy can get some serious push, even against powerhouses like NDSU.
Yup Draft big guy OL ie @ Tackle in early rounds.
Otherwise go skill and Round 1-3 picks.
Dom Capers can ensure that any Big Man fits right in and on rotation in on our 2-4-5 Base Defense.
It's too bad that Dom can't simply march a sack of potatoes out there. Potatoes are still relatively cheap.
Don't get uptight ... It's ALL RIGHT ... Out of sight !?
The Senior Bowl is Jan. 25th on NFL network, which I don't get, but I hope some rats who do can check it out. Badger players like Aberderris, Boreland, and White will be there, and other big name players like C. J. Mosley, Ra'Shede Hageman, Jordan Matthews, Terrance Brooks, Aaron Donald, will be playing for scouts. http://www.seniorbowl.com/accepted-i...ence=&s_id=Any
I saw on ESPN that over 100 underclassmen will end up declaring for the draft, the largest number in years. That, coupled with the regular senior class, leaves a lot of options,
We should be able to draft an impact payer in each of the first three rounds.
You can really get some lower round gems with so many underclassmen. The risk is higher, but the reward can be even higher, since some of these guys just will not be ready in the fall, but might be outstanding in another year or so. The downside is that too many of these guys have topped out as juniors and will not progress. Finley comes to mind as an example of the former, even though he declared after his sophomore year (redshirt freshman) (and I guess that's no longer allowed, right?)
Will Ted pick a gem? probably
One guy that I find intriguing is Lamarcus Joyner, S, Florida State, he's small, 5'8", but is a very physical player, which the Packers soft D needs desperately, watch the tape, he hits like a truck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg1Ug-aoXd4
He's a good blitzer too: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...ed-versatility
He's projected to be a 2nd round pick.
he would be eaten alive by chicago and detroits WR's
theres talk that he might have to convert toCB because 5'8 is just too damn small for a safety
calvin pryor out of loisville is intriguing to me, the guy was never asked to cover anyone in college, but othr then that he has all the tools you'd want
TT is at the Shrine game practices scoping out DBs:
Michael Schottey @Schottey 28m
Ted Thompson is here...alway see him at the Senior Bowl. Don't know if I've ever seen him here before. Positioned to was defensive backs
Joyner is not only small, but he's a headhunter, exactly the kind of safety to avoid in the draft. The shit he does in college is illegal in the pros, so he'd not only have the disadvantage of being a midget, but also have to completely reinvent his style of play. No thanks.
ok then. lets take a look at who TT might be looking at
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EAST
SAF 10 Tre Boston 6'1" 190 North Carolina
SAF 17 A.J. Marshall 6'0" 190 Wake Forest
SAF 29 Hakeem Smith 6'2" 188 Louisville
SAF 12 Dezmen Southward 6'2" 214 Wisconsin (INJ)
SAF 14 Jemea Thomas 5'10" 195 Georgia Tech
WEST
SAF 3 Alden Darby 5'11" 195 Arizona State
SAF 8 Daytawion Lowe 5'11" 205 Oklahoma State
SAF 1 Sean Parker 5'10" 195 Washington
SAF 9 Daniel Sorensen 6'2" 208 BYU
SAF 21 Brock Vereen 6'0" 202 Minnesota
according to one of my main sites for draft info, this doesn't look like its the cream of the crop
http://walterfootball.com/draft2014S.php
they have tre boston as the 5th best safety in the draft, hakeem smith as #13, alan darby as 15, sean parker at 19, and southward at 25
so, exactly the type of guys TT would draft in the later rounds to fill our biggest need
Tony Pauline @TonyPauline 41m
Dez Southward/S/Wisconsin not at the Shrine Game as he'll be playing next week in the Senior Bowl.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...y-team/page/13
Draft Position: 21
Dream Fit: Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama
" He has great vision ...and can read a quarterback's eyes to make a quick break on the ball. He has the speed to make up ground in the secondary .... a physical, sure tackler who can make plays at the line of scrimmage."
Who's off the board first @ the QB position?
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...ohnny-manziel/
Texans’ Bill O’Brien just beginning to evaluate Johnny Manziel
Posted on January 15, 2014 at 6:45 PM ... By: Ultimate Texans in 2013 season, Houston Texans, NFL draft
Comment woodbuck27:
The Houston Texans scored the second fewest points in the NFL and the QB position is getting much of the blame.
Once upon a time franchise QB, Matt Schaub, had an interception returned for a touchdown in an NFL record four straight games.
Schaub's replacement, on and off, Case Keenum never won a game this past season. "
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Post @ Packerrats with dire Straits LIVE @ Knebworth ... Enjoying the whole concert:
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It looks very likely that the Texans will be drafting @ QB with their No. 1 overall pick.
Which of leading candidates will they elect to make the NO. 1 overall pick?
I've noticed of ** the three present leading candidates for first QB off the board. That Johnny "Mr. Football" Manziel is getting a lot of attention and LOVE of late. Is Johnny Manziel moving forward to be the consensus overall NO.1 Draft pick?
He might blow any serious thought of that "to HELL in a New Your minute", with one of his little antics hitting TMZ.
** Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville and Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M and Blake Bortles, UCF.
Who goes off the board at QB first and to which team?
Houston needs a QB:
Newly hired Texan's HC Pete " Irish" O'Brian has only watched Johnny Manziel on the tube. From reports he hasn't begun his evaluation process of this years QB class more so Johnny Manziel to any degree of depth.
Will the Texans Head Coach and Company select a certainly dynamic but undersized QB who has risen so suddenly to the top of some early mock drafts?
I look to see if the St. Louis RAMS get any offers to trade down from the NO. 2 slot. Cleveland or Minny?
Minny? That move will be a costly one from the NO. 8 slot to No. 2.
How costly? Which Trade Value Chart are we @ Packerrats going to rely on in this 2014 draft?
Which one does Ted Thompson and Company use?
Cleveland is picking at No. 4 and has QB needs as "Weeden" may get "weeded" ... OUT.
Are the Cleveland Browns the AFC equivalent to the NFC Detroit Lions or ... is it possible ...worse ?!
Changes @ the HC position will fix it all. You simply have to believe if your a Browns or Lions fan.
At least " the growing pains again Cleveland Browns" are waiting ... waiting patiently for this seasons playoff picture to clear. They may smartly wait until after Super Bowl XLVIII to select their new Head coach.
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Back to football:
The Cleveland BROWNS waiting until after the Super Bowl to get their HC?
Is that a good idea? Who's starving to go there? Will he be the new Bill Belichick?
Just remember this when going Ha-Ha over the draft. Usually people dislike Ted's drafts. The one universally loved my media and fans? 2012.
That is the draft people are now killing Thompson over since they believe that draft is killing the Packers.
I hope Ted trades out of the first and takes Greg Jennings II in the 2nd round.
FWIW, Draftek has the Packers taking a WR:
DraftTek @Drafttek 27m
#NFLdraft sim #Packers Picks:
1- WR Matthews
2- SS Bailey
3- LT Mewhort
I think they just use an algorithm to make picks, at least for a while.
i've been following draft tek for years and their picks rarely make any sense. not only have they had us picking a WR in the first for at least a month now, but they're saying that pick would be a pretty big reach
and i hate the fact that its a WR from USC. NEVER DRAFT A WR IN ROUND 1 FROM USC
also, since we're in the draft thread
what kind of safety do we need?
i've seen a lot of sites and posters saying we need a SS.
morgan burnett was a SS when we had collins, and i think moved to FS after collins got hurt. and he's sucked hard at FS every since
so do we need a SS and keep burnett at the safety spot where he sucks. or do we draft a real FS and move burnett back to where he looked average?
or does it even matter?
to me, we need a playmaker, thats a FS in my mind
A SS can certainly be a playmaker. See Leroy Butler. I'd rather see Burnett at SS, which is probably what TT envisioned since Collins was only 26 or 27 when he drafted Burnett. OR maybe the idea is for the 2 safeties to be interchangeable. The Packers need playmakers on defense no matter where they line up.
Ha-Ha and Pryor re both listed as FS.
Draftek is ridiculous. Our last three WRs picked in the first round?
JAMES LOFTON
STERLING SHARPE
JAVON WALKER
Pretty fucking awesome players. None drafted by Thompson.
Speaking of which, Lofton was the most recent Packer first rounder (1978) to be inducted in the HoF. The most recent first rounder to get in was Johnathan Ogden (1996).
That's nearly twenty years without a first-rounder panning out into a HoF. :C
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article...st-shrine-game
Gives a shout-out for better than expected Badger Beau Allen.
people in tampa should be ashamed
thats one of the worst looking domed fields i've ever seen
I found their alignment of players to NFL teams is seemingly off when you do a comparison to other draft sites.
I liked the way the site is designed. I don't recall discovering much better in that regard.
It seems like such a short time ago that we last did this. Time sure flys. :-)
The East-West Shrine game is a little slow.
It's all tied up @ "13" now.
sounds like the perfect backupQuote:
Jeff Mathews. He proved quickly that he has the strongest arm of all the quarterbacks in attendance and can make the intermediate/deep throws with zip and accuracy at an NFL level. One issue he had at Cornell was taking too long to pull the trigger and this was an issue at times this week.