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Originally Posted by Gunakor
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Originally Posted by Gunakor
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Originally Posted by Gunakor
I tend to give TT a pass on the 4-12 season
But if we give credit for 8-8 to 13-3 you should also throw a dart at him for 13-3 to 6-10.
And for what it's worth overall I think TT has did a decent job but I'm probably one of the few closer to the middle that on one extreme or the other
Don't mean to distract here........but Pennington just threw his 3rd pick....hmmmm......
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Originally Posted by GrnBay007
Ditto! And everyone knows I wanted it a year later than it happened but I hope he can be the big piece of the offense that the west coast needs. I also hope we get a GM in here that can build strength in the lines. Until Snake TT leaves, Rodgers will struggle to win games, let alone a SB, with no help in either of those categories.
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
Thanks for contributing w/o throwing out any sarcastic rips :wink:
Get the old Turtle avatar back. :P :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bretsky
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Originally Posted by packinpatland
doesnt that belong in the todays games thread?
A QB that won't turn the ball over multiple times when the weather gets bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacopete4
The Trent Dilfers and the Brad Johnson's of the world would not have won rings, even with the outstanding defensive teams backing them up, if they turned the ball over multiple times a game once winter rolled around. You throw 3 picks in a playoff game and you lose - there aren't any Lions or Raiders playing in January. Teams who make it this far take advantage of gifts.
Favre has become a very generous giver to opponents for a month now. It's been a trend for him to become a very generous giver around the holidays, even as a Packer, for a few seasons now. This hasn't been some kind of anomaly.
Not by being careless when it mattered most.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrnBay007
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Originally Posted by Pacopete4
Just wanted to make sure eveyone was aware......... :lol:
Now let's see if the Fins win the game. Something tells me this is only going to bolster my position.Quote:
Originally Posted by packinpatland
If the Jets were playing the Ravens today, how many do you suppose Favre would have thrown? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by packinpatland
But I am sure he's having fun out there! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by packinpatland
No, c'mon, its a joke. Seriously, I was just kidding! Not a hater! Maybe perturbed at one time or another, but not hate!
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Originally Posted by Gunakor
you cant be believing the crap that comes outta your mouth all the time can you? You're putting WAAAAAAY too much on the QB for winning or even getting to SB's. Complete teams win SB's. We had one of them while Brett was in GB (I know, arguably 2, but a combination Holmy getting ready to leave and we took being there for granted lost us that game)
Guess we'll never know........have to work with what is....not the what ifs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lurker64
probably one... right before half to get the ravens back into the game for the 2nd half but then T. Jones woulda took over that half and the ravens wouldnt of seen the ball... Jets 27 - Ravens 13Quote:
Originally Posted by Lurker64
haha jk
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Originally Posted by Lurker64
:D
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Originally Posted by GrnBay007
I need hope for next year; the avatar needs to provide next year with better karma :wink:
If they are not going to pony up we need to find new bikini girls :!:
But your avatar is Rodgers, not the bikini girls. :?: I think I saw them yesterday. What happened, did your wife see? :P :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bretsky
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Originally Posted by GrnBay007
What are you talking about ? My avatar is the bikini girls, isn't it ????
It is. If you're not seeing the bikini girls, clear your cache.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bretsky
LOL not on my screen. It's your old Rodgers one. Like I said, I think I saw it yesterday. ....now gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bretsky
That's funny because Ryan Grant gave the ball away as much as anyone in the playoffs last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunakor
Geez, maybe everyone's is different and I haven't noticed. :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lurker64
How do I do that?
You are reading this the wrong way. I don't put too much on a QB's shoulders for winning. But if you are the QB, and you throw the ball to the other team regularly, and we lose the game because of all the turnovers... I sure as hell can put a heavy chunk on you for losing. Thus is the story of December for the 2008 Jets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacopete4
The Jets are not in the playoffs this year mostly because Brett Favre threw, fuck, more INT's than I can count in the last month. Are you really going to argue that with me? Seriously, how can you not lay the largest share of the blame for the Jets failure to make the playoffs on the QB who imploded down the stretch? I'm not trying to pick a fight, that's just how it is. Turnovers KILL TEAMS. Turnovers KILLED the 2008 Jets.
This argument aside, weren't you one of the ones who had suggested that the Packers went 13-3 last year BECAUSE of Brett Favre? Wasn't it YOU who would routinely put WAAAAY to much on the QB for winning? Just wondering, so I know which side you stand on. I'd hate to call you out for something that wasn't true...
True. Favre gave the ball away too. It all adds up - we didn't win a ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partial
But you missed the point entirely, apparently. I was talking about a SB caliber QB, and you made an argument about a RB. Funny.
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Originally Posted by GrnBay007
WHEW.............I thought I'd lost them
Normally you can go to tools at top of browser and then go to options to clear out cache
Try CTRL and F5 to do a full refresh of the page.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bretsky
This is very important for 007 cuz she loves chix too :lol: :wink:
So hot.
B--> :butt:<--007Quote:
Originally Posted by Bretsky
Back to the real topic (you guys can carry on later)
4 INT's........... :lol:
Thanks Zool, that worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zool
OMG........the bikini girls have mustaches!!! :shock:
:P :wink:
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Originally Posted by packinpatland
This game sucks; Detroit against Green Bay might be more entertaining !
Hey, Jim Leonard just caught the fast guy
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Originally Posted by GrnBay007
stop looking.........oh I can even say it :lol:
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Gotta love Jimmy. Walk-on to an all-american, right?
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Freak Out wrote:
The Raven defense will make any QB look bad....."MVP" Pennington made some bad decisions to hurt his cause today but the Raven D was pretty damn tough.
Now this is just an awesome memory!
Favre
27 of 34, 337 yards, 3 TD's
"The way he played today explains why he's the three-time MVP quarterback," Starks said.
"We couldn't do anything to frustrate him," linebacker Jamie Sharper said. "We couldn't blitz him as much as we wanted to and hit him in the backfield because he was getting the ball off going downfield. We couldn't get him off his game. And that's what we usually do to a quarterback. But Brett didn't allow us to do that."
"Brett keeps things alive," Ravens coach Brian Billick said. "That's part of his magic. He has the knack to break contain, back away and wait until the last second and make a throw. He's a phenomenal athlete, and they made the big plays when they needed to. They have a Hall of Fame quarterback and deserved to win today."
He shredded the Ravens' secondary with 17 completions to wide receivers - picking on cornerback Chris McAlister at times deep - and three passes of more than 36 yards. Against a defense that hadn't allowed a touchdown drive of more than 33 yards, Favre engineered ones of 74, 80 and 82 yards.
For as many games like that, it pains me to look at games in the playoffs like the Rams and the Vikings a few years ago where he made their defensive backs look like the best in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacopete4
You mean the years we didnt have the best team in the NFL and lost in the playoffs?... get over itQuote:
Originally Posted by channtheman
Um, if we won the NFC North and then lost to the Vikings who were a Wild Card team doesn't that mean we were better than them for 16 games?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacopete4