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Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns
I wasn't aware the police witnessed the actual shooting.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns
I wasn't aware the police witnessed the actual shooting.
Gee what on odd concept to step up and protect your property but also your neighborhood as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns
Instead you think he should hide in his closet. Thank god I will never have to count on you to have my back. You will run to the first closet you see and put your head between your knees, and whisper, "Please make them go away, make them go..."
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns
What spin? I've never argued that he didn't put himself in that situation. What are you talking about?
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Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz
That statement embodies much of what I'm getting at. Not only are Harlan and Tyrone big fat soft targets themselves, but their attitudes and sympathies are also likely to make this type of burglary that much more attractive. The lower the risk, the better the odds for the criminal type. They prey on the path of least resistance, and Tyrone and Harlan are inadvertently arguing to widen the path.
If Harlan had his way (a criminal conviction), that would open the door for those two convicted felons and their families to benefit from a lottery type windfall by nailing poor Mr. Horn with a civil suit. And then it's even more attractive to be a crook. At some point it won't pay to be an honest citizen anymore.
Protect his property...what, was the grass in danger. The criminals didn't do anything to his property..and certainly hadn't when he called the police.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz
The issue was shooting them...because he either feared for his life or his property. His property wasn't in danger..and he put himself in danger.
You can't have it both ways...you can't cry and say he had no choice but to shoot them...when he did have a choice. He didn't have to go outside and he coulda waited for his tax dollars to be utilized..that is why we have police.
Right. It is called common sense..and listening to the police dispatcher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Campbell
Now, your criteria is legal obligation. Fine, i don't want to hear you cry about legal options that don't favor your viewpoint then..."frivilous lawsuits," etc.
The bottom line is you and the rest of your fans would be singing a different tune if Horn had been shot and killed. Then, it woulda been.."shoulda stayed inside..shoulda listened to the dispatcher...shoulda waited for the cops, etc."
Exactly how many posts does it take you to answer one of mine?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Campbell
Trying to run up your post totals again?
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns
It ain't against the law to go outside on your own lawn.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns
Are you typing from the safety of your closet you pussy?
Why don't you just answer the question? Or are you afraid of that too?
I'm not going to bother reading this whole thing, but in my opinion, if anyone comes onto my property and threatens me I should be able to shoot them. Thats why its MY property. I'm not going to wait for the cops, and I'm sure as hell going to shoot to kill. Those jag bags that rob people would rather slit your throat then be reasoned with.
Now, if this person is
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns
Somewhere between 1 and 100. Pretty much as many as I fucking want Tinkerbell.
Real simple, neighbor gets robbed, you are most likely to me next. You witness crime, you could become a victim. The police claim that the criminal began to run at Mr. Horn after Horn told them to freeze and gave them a warning. These criminal would not have hesitated to go after Horn, that is until they realized he really did have shotgun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns
Again he stood up for his community at the very least and I respect the hell out of him, it would be my honor to have him as my neighbor.
Which question?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Campbell
Perhaps if you confined your limited retorts to one larger post it would be easier to address them. Nah, that would be smart. :roll:
So, the police were there? Again, what is the need for him to be outside?Quote:
Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz
Again, you fail to acknowledge that he had a choice..he put himself in danger.
Would they have gone after him without a gun. Agreed. But, he wouldn't have been outside acting like a dumbass if he didn't have one.
And, your logic..that he was next...when? That night? LOL. When...5 years from now when they get back into the country...popo was there..they are gettin deported.
Standing up for his neighbor/community...that was done when he called the police. That was the act that was required and needed. Acting as the police to kill them as he stated on the phone wasn't needed.
Do you want to put executioners out of work in texas?
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns
Yeah, yeah Tyrone - I'm stupid. Whatever.
It's the 3rd post from the top of the page. Even Einstein could find it.
You implied that I spun something that I never said. I responded. That's how it's gonna work.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns
I consider that a partial truth. All 3 of them were responsible for being there, not just Joe.
Maybe he needed to get the mail, or wash his car. Or catch a breath of fresh air. Who really cares? It ain't illegal to "trespass" on your own front lawn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Bigguns
Oh, scott...you are so cute when you play the martyr. :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Campbell
If you post 3 times to one of mine, there is a good chance something will be missed. If you want a response, trying putting all your thoughts into one post...or are you like a young child that can't wait to show how bright they are?
Your spin is putting it in context of defending his property..when you know that he put himself in position to defend it...it wasn't in danger, the police told him not to go outside, etc.
Again, spin away. Who is talking about responsibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Campbell
We are talking about choices? Horn had several.
Who is talking about legality. Just because something is legal doesn't make it smart to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Campbell
It is legal for you to walk down the street in whatever section of town you desire...but, it sure ain't smart.