That's so fucking stupid of Barclay. If you hit an adult with a stick and leave welts, you go to jail for assault. If you hit a kid with a stick and leave welts, it's a teaching tool? How much further backwards could that thinking be?
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If my team screws up at work, I'm going to either hit them in the mouth or spank them. I'll report back later from home after I'm fired. But while at home if my kid spills milk on the floor, I'm beating her ass with a stick. Seems logical right?
Charles also glosses over some minor brushes with the law of his own. Not exactly Rice or Peterson, but a plate glass window is a dangerous deterrent.
Leave Don Barclay out of this, he doesn't spank his kids and plus he's injured and cannot defend himself.
Spanking is the civic and domestic analogue to concussions in team sports. In both cases scientific evidence is way ahead of and completely at odds with mainstream culture.
Sounds like "settled science" once again.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/25/us...-spanking.html
Spanking is a different discussion. It really doesn't matter if AP only intended to deliver the sort of spanking that you approve of. What he actually did is child abuse.
I think I have adopted you as my surrogate online dad because you are a raging lunatic just like my real dad. My dad smacked me a lot, and only me, because I emerged from the womb rebellious and irritating. But despite his anger, he never came close to hitting me hard. I imagine you are all bark, no bite too.
I remember one incident: I snatched the last sausage from the breakfast table. My dad rose to his feet and thundered, "Give me that sausage!" That phrase now is enshrined forever in family lore, it is sometimes yelled when somebody, say, snatches a TV remote at Thanksgiving.
How do you say "Give me that chorizo!" in spanish?
Indeed. Tanier's article in my link touched on research that said there was evidence that "conditional spanking" had some positive affect.
However, I don't think Peterson falls into this category (from Howard's article):
Stunning that if you remove the worst cases, the results are not as severe and "could" be explained by other factors they were unable to control for.Quote:
Dr. Baumrind described findings from her own research, an analysis of data from a long-term study of more than 100 families, indicating that mild to moderate spanking had no detrimental effects when such confounding influences were separated out. When the parents who delivered severe punishment -- for example, frequently spanking with a paddle or striking a child in the face -- were removed from the analysis, Dr. Baumrind and her colleague, Dr. Elizabeth Owens, found that few harmful effects linked with spanking were left. And the few that remained could be explained by other aspects of the parent-child relationship.
Jonathan Dwyer has been arrested in connection to a domestic assault that occurred in July. He has been deactivated.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ence-incident/
Best part?
The Arizona Cardinals: We think the Vikings do too much in the way of background checks.Quote:
Because he’s not a star player (unlike other accused players like Ray Rice, Greg Hardy and Adrian Peterson), it wouldn’t be at all surprising for the Cardinals simply to cut him and try to get this case behind them as soon as possible.
Of course, if the Cardinals do cut Dwyer, the next man up on the roster would likely be practice squad running back Chris Rainey — who has had two separate domestic violence incidents, one in college that got him kicked off the team at Florida, and one in the NFL that got him cut by the Steelers. Which serves as a reminder that the NFL has to do a whole lot more to get domestic abusers out of the league.
Now the Vikings are releasing Jerome Simpson for his forbidden love of mary jane.
We need some Bear and Lion players to get suspended to help balance the stupidity out.
Anyone else see the story about APs high school coach, he had a paddle he used on his players??? The more I see of this story, the more I think AP really thinks what he was doing was right, and good for the kid.
He could sure use a paddle for that creek he's on.
And this might be why it's tough for a fan like Ras, I think. You love your team, you've been watching them for decades. You love football. Then your team gets bought by a guy who's too douchy to go out front and explain his decision-making, instead throwing his GM and new HC in front of the cameras so they can explain the inexplicable.
You gotta hope the HC can somehow pull the team/organization through all this, but you realize that behind it all lies this kinda-slimey owner, and it probably causes you to feel slightly sick about it all. Whatever happened to the days when it was about football?
That must be what it's like, I think.
Ras and I haven't always agreed, but I echo his sentiment: what about the football?
True, but a paddling by Daddy Peterson may not be a good thing for a four-year-old.
If you trust in scientific research, corporal punishment does more harm than good.
If you are suspicious of the experts, and you think spanking can do some good, well, the law lets you whack away to a point. The problem is, it takes a lot of self-control that you may lack. People who got beat by their own parents seem to lack that control.
The local community really should own football teams. It's not like the owners today are brilliant businessmen whose brilliant marketing decisions guide their teams to success. The NFL is a monopoly, the public subsidizes the stadiums, and it's close to impossible for franchises to do anything but wildly appreciate in value. A NFL team is part of community identity - duh.
That said, at least public opinion seems to be playing a role in policy.
There is real business acumen in the NFL. Jones, Snyder and Kraft are making a mint where before they were making a small Pacific island in local revenue.
The real question is, if that market should dry up (as it did temporarily in 2008-2010) could they recover?
There is also the disconnect between good for the franchises valuation and good for football overall.
The Packers have shown that public ownership works quite well, thank you. Which is why the owners have colluded to prevent that structure from being replicated.
I am unimpressed with the ability of Jerry Jones to make billions. He may be a good marksman, but he is still shooting fish in a barrel.
Fans should own their teams, it's a better structure. The NFL is out of control, they are a "regulated" monopoly only in theory. That said, I don't give too big of a fuck.
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More digging == more dirt. Tax evasion? Ouch, you guys take that pretty seriously. Some Capone guy spent an awful long time in jail because of it and a couple of brewski's from what I've heard.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...undation-past/
Who really gives a shit if AP never plays again, it's not like he is poor. I feel so fucking sorry for some of these rich, dumb asses that have the world by the balls, but keep screwing up because everyone always caters to them.
Shit, time to admit I was wrong about this guy.
All Day? More like All Done.
If he is smart he pays one of his entourage to take an embezzlement charge
His (well, his agent's) response is that is all ancient history, all the indiscretions pre-date 2011 when problems were found and a house cleaning was done. If that's true, and it should be easy to verify, this is a non-story that the media is dig up and didn't verify for the purpose of chucking more mud at him.
I have read that athlete foundations are really just ways to put family and friends on a tax-free payroll. Its not too surprising.
So he's pleading not guilty, so that means he won't get a trial for 9-12 months. Even if he does get acquitted or probation (so no jail time), he's still likely to get the 6 game domestic violence ban from the NFL. So not only is he 2014 season likely over, his 2015 is mostly gone as well, assuming a team signs him as I'm pretty sure MN is going to release him.