I think Peterson is divorced from reality if he thinks he will play football this year. Even if he is acquitted, he can't make those pictures and police reports go away.
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I think Peterson is divorced from reality if he thinks he will play football this year. Even if he is acquitted, he can't make those pictures and police reports go away.
Rusty Hardin got Roger Clemens a not guilty plea on six counts of perjury, when the guy who was injecting him with PEDs testified against him. So i put nothing past him here.
The real fun will be Goodell trying to make a suspension stick given his track record of being all over the map vis a vis domestic violence and taking court results under advisement. He's going to need a new coat of Teflon before he's done.
The NFL trying to look PC on the domestic abuse issue, is going to wreck someones career. It will only be a matter of time, before some psycho bitch decides she wants to get revenge on the NFL player that dumped her. The law with domestics already screws over the man, even when the woman is the abuser. Now Goodell's rules just assume guilt before anything is proved. The NFL is sooo worried about covering their ass, that they are willing to throw their players under the bus. I'm not saying that AP is getting hosed and wrongly accused. But it will happen, and it will do irreversible damage to that players reputation/career.
So if the NFL is now PC, what precisely should they be doing differently?
Ray Rice is a great example to start with. Both parties were physical. Both may have been drunk. Only one did enough damage to knock someone unconscious. The court let her slide and gave him pre-trial diversion. So the Court gave him a slap on the wrist, as it were, but did accept his plea of guilty.
What suspension would be just in this case?
IMO the NFL screwed up when they decided to take a stance on more than football. The NFL is like a Columbian coke lord, distributing its product through a number of giant drug cartels (cable companies). They need to worry about the integrity of their product sure, but casting judgment on the integrity of anything else is going to make it apparent they are out of their wheelhouse and is going to draw attention to the fact that they embody the idea of profits over people.
Protect the shield sounded good but was much more complex than they imagined. I have some sympathy for a business trying to discipline its employees for off the clock behavior, (and sympathy for employees subjected to discipline unrelated to work) but the NFL waked straight into this voluntarily. Only their ignorance made them think this was going to be simple. And the NFLPA agreed. Astounding.
Looks like he got the Dec 1 trial date. The prosecution is going to see if the judge will recuse himself for calling the attys "media whores", oh the horror. Looks like the only way this trial is being delayed is if this happens.
I try and be fair to all parties in domestic abuse accusations. I think the "PC" thing is misplaced, it implies unfairness. None of the guys accused of domestic abuse, including Peterson, have been railroaded.
If and when somebody gets falsely accused and damaged, we can talk about a PC rush to judgement.
It WILL happen, it's not like a gold digging whore has ever filed a false accusation against a rich athlete. This will just make it that much easier and instead of waiting to see if the player is guilty, they are punished immediately. Roger Goodell A.K.A Judge, jury, and executioner.
About 15% of domestic violence victims are men. Now, it's possible that the physical size and strength of an NFL player makes their situation different. We'll probably never know though. What NFL player is going to call the police and say he got beat up by his wife? The culture of the sport won't allow it.
Any good gold digging whore mastermind would have the sense to make a parlay bet on all of Peterson's player props categories before kicking off a scandal like this.
AP has lost his mind. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...lony/16982405/
So the revenge from getting the NFL to act is better than the revenge that could be had by reporting him to the police?
Why doesn't this happen with marijuana use then, or drinking and driving?
I think you see leverage but do not take into consideration the actual motivations of the woman. If revenge alone was that popular, then more players would be in trouble and they would be caught not by the police or video or drug tests but by published reports.
I could see this kind of behavior in a divorce or custody proceeding. Take Michael Strahan's ex for example.
A few thoughts...
Revenge via the NFL, the way they are metting it out now, is instant satisfaction. No worries about due process, the target making bail and carrying on while things run their course. Just make the complaint, and boom - dude's screwed.
Why isn't it open to revenge/gold digging? IMO it's not as immediately obvious or open to abuse. Weed and DUI are more likely to need police involvement related to the event, the abuse charges could start with the woman making a teary phone callQuote:
Why doesn't this happen with marijuana use then, or drinking and driving?
Early days pb, early days. This is all pretty new, and I think the NFL is treading a dangerous path here, as Rutnstrut said, acting as judge, jury and executioner. The way they are handling it I absolutely see the opportunity for a spurned lover to take revenge either by blackmail or simply damaging a guy's career. And the NFL is going to get sued for suspending someone and damaging their career once they've been exonerated.Quote:
I think you see leverage but do not take into consideration the actual motivations of the woman. If revenge alone was that popular, then more players would be in trouble and they would be caught not by the police or video or drug tests but by published reports.
or the duke lacrosse teamQuote:
I could see this kind of behavior in a divorce or custody proceeding. Take Michael Strahan's ex for example.
Well, let's take one step back. Rutnstrut initially stated that the NFL's "PC" approach would open up athletes to abuse by gold diggers. That claim is manifestly mistaken.
a. If your goal is to live high on the hog, this move costs the arrangement money if it succeeds. If it fails, you get put out on the street.
b. If you are after blackmail, pay me or I go to the authorities, that possibility exists now with the drug and alcohol policy. And it doesn't seem to happen all that often. Think about how easy it it would be to post pictures of a night out drinking and then another of the player driving.
c. The NFL has set a standard (it may change) that the player is off the roster but still collecting a paycheck. So revenge is problematic as well if you really want to hurt the pocketbook even if you are not interested in more payouts.
As for revenge only, the NFL has video and photographs of two incidents and court testimony and a conviction in another. I think you are overestimating the chances a woman can get the domestic abuse charge to stick with the NFL without involving the authorities. Do you expect the women to call Dean Blandino or Troy Vincent and get him suspended without involving the authorities?
At some point you need evidence and that will have to be given to the police.
"At some point you need evidence and that will have to be given to the police."
That's my point, the NFL is setting a precedent to act without evidence. Even if the player is eventually proved innocent, the damage is done.
That ship sailed long ago, see Ben Roethlisberger. In the cases of Rice and Hardy, they had a criminal proceeding to go on. Peterson has public photos. The new policy doesn't change anything. If anything, the players in these cases are better off as they are getting paid.
The last sighting of the Duke Lacrosse "rape victim" was her mug shot.
In the can on a murder beef.
Peterson is suspended until April 15th (earliest reinstatement).
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 16m16 minutes ago
NFL announces Adrian Peterson suspended without pay the rest of the 2014 season http://wp.me/p14QSB-9Dkx
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora 15m15 minutes ago
NFL notes its domestic violence policy of 6 games for 1st offense w/escalating discipline if a minor involved. Considers a switch a weapon
It is harsh, but I would say appropriate. AP will be back in league earning plenty. I hope he is a changed man, but that is optimistic.
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