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I expect the Jets are in full damage control mode and aren't counting on Rodgers to be a good player next season. Not sure what their difficult options are, but rolling the dice on a win-now year with Rodgers sounds like a bad commitment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz
I don't go to concerts, Newsbruin, (except some country music decades ago). I don't even know what "freebird" is all about (or care).
Most of the crap you're talking about is totally irrelevant (or should be) to football fans. I assume Favre and Rodgers and most other overpaid athletes hire publicists to put out good shit about him for the people who actually care about that silly shit, and also to counter the media assholes doing their damnedest to dig up bad shit about them.
The ONLY thing that is (or should be) important to Packer fans is what they do in football. And in that area, Rodgers and Favre are probably #1 and #3 best QB all time. Any of the rest of that shit, I don't give a damn.
All of that is in the past, though. Rodgers' future performance if any? Frankly, I don't give a damn, He is no longer a Packer, so the hell with him, same as the hell with anybody else from other teams.
Bruin, you are w-a-a-a-y too nuanced and thoughtful for Tex. Gotta paint with a wide brush for the Texan.
Rodgers saying he’s gonna prove everyone wrong about the timeline. Oof. I know the medical field is trash, but injury timelines don’t seem like an area even they can mess up too badly.
Something tells me he’s gonna be reinjured very quickly on this one.
The medical field is trash? Dare I go down this rabbit hole? lol
LOL yeah, I'm not touching that one, other than it's a ridiculously bad take. You could convince me if you were talking about medical billing practices though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freak Out
The medical field is like all fields. We have some very brilliant people and some dolts. Like too much of life the dolts end up as bureaucrats and making most of the broad policy.
The talking heads at ESPN were debating whether the Jest should try to find another QB. Zach Wilson is clearly way, way over his head.
But who the hell is out there that would be worth pursuing?
I wonder if Rodgers is secretly smirking that the Jest are lost without him, or if he's thinking "Geez, my puppet Hackett might be fired, so I hope they win a few games." Or both.
Would you rather have a 40 year old Rodgers with a torn Achilles or Love and two seconds?
Love for sure.
Tough call. Love can maybe get one play done with only two seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by RashanGary
Good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by sharpe1027
Getting back to my previous post, I do wonder how much sway Rodgers really, really holds over the organization. Does Woodhead Johnson hang onto Saleh and Hackett next year, even if this year goes completely in the pooper, because Rodgers wants them back when he comes back? Does Saleh have to wonder if Rodgers really wants him there, or is it just Hackett?
Could Woodhead really fire Hackett and have Rodgers be okay with that, if the offense can't produce at all this year? Would the Jest fire Saleh but tell any new head coach he has to keep Hackett so Rodgers is happy? (Shades of the MLF hiring with Mike Pettine.) Would Saleh be willing to dump a defensive coordinator as a scape goat, but keep Hackett, just to keep his job?
These are the kinds of headaches you get when you get Aaron Rodgers. Even when he's injured and out, he's still a heavy weight on the decision making of the brass.
You can have that.
Hackett, Saleh, etc. probably have years left on their contracts, Woody will keep them if Rodgers comes back. I think even if Rodgers doesn't and they get to 6-7 wins they could be back but with a new R1 QB to replace Zach. Their defense is pretty good and they have talent at skill positions...just not at QB.
I'd take Jordan Love and 2 R2 picks over a 40 yo QB with a torn Achilles.
Rodgers may come back and possibly do so with a vengeance, but his best days are far behind him. Very few 40 QBs have thrown more than 100 passes in the NFL.
He was already losing accuracy and scrambling ability. We all saw it last year
That’s not gonna get better with this injury, no matter how experimental it is
He’ll be 40 coming off a massive injury that impacts your mobility
I bet he fights his way back, if no other reason the collecting that paycheck, but he isn’t going to better then what he was last season
Reminder: last season he never cracked 300 yards and only threw for 3 TDs once - vs. Dallas.
In NFL-time, he'll be a long time removed from that, never mind his MVP seasons.
Wait, 2 seconds? I guess Love ain’t Black enough, cos, the Blacks are stereotypically known for their reproduction powers.Quote:
Originally Posted by RashanGary
To answer your question, IF I were a chick or a queer, I’d take a 40 year old man, even one with a torn Achilles (which ain’t in any shape, form, matter or anti-matter a reproduction organ) any night of the week over some sensitive fuck who can’t last more 2 fucking seconds.
APB, we all pretty much got a schtick in here; I get that. But yours is getting so old it's crusty. You're supposedly a too-old-to-be-flipping-burgers burger flipper, and your "cool cool" hip-hop and music references are now old and worn out, as are your comments about black and white players. Jesus, your "hip hop safety" Harrison Smith is fucking 34 years old now. You know that, right?
I'm curious now. What's my schtick?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz
Whatever it is, it's goodQuote:
Originally Posted by sharpe1027
Being reasonable and solid.Quote:
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You're . . . Sharpe.Quote:
Originally Posted by sharpe1027
Getting back to Arod in this thread, I heard it floated on Detroit sports radio yesterday that maybe the Vikes could hook up with the Jest and trade Cousins over there, so the Jest can salvage their season. Apparently, some of the defensive players are getting annoyed at how protective Long Tall Saleh has been of Zach Wilson. They all know if they played defense like he plays offense, they'd be benched and bitched at. So there's unrest in the Big Asshole.
And Minny would have an interest in getting rid of Cousins.
But do the Jest have to run that by ol' Aaron first, make sure he's cool with it?
Or if they don't, or if he's cool with it, since Cousins is in the last year of a contract, what if Cousins plays really well? Do the Jest dare to offer him a contract and call the Aaron experiment a failed one?
Again: the joys of having an aging HOF quarterback...
Not sure they can make that work with Cousins contract? Seems like just water cooler talk to pass time.Quote:
Getting back to Arod in this thread, I heard it floated on Detroit sports radio yesterday that maybe the Vikes could hook up with the Jest and trade Cousins over there, so the Jest can salvage their season. Apparently, some of the defensive players are getting annoyed at how protective Long Tall Saleh has been of Zach Wilson. They all know if they played defense like he plays offense, they'd be benched and bitched at. So there's unrest in the Big Asshole.
I can't imagine trading Cousins 3-4 weeks into the season, it's a bad NFC and you're waving the white flag awfully early. You're also hoping the Bears and Cards do better than you so you can pick a top 3 QB. The Minny fan base is cranky already, if they trade their QB away they'll be really mad... and so will Justin Jefferson. You want to extend him with nobody at QB? No matter what, Vikings are in a tricky spot.
As for Jets defensive players, they'd have to send some over in the trade, probably. I might prefer to play for Saleh and hope to stick around for Rodgers' return next year.
If I recall correctly, Cousins is in the last year of his contract. And Aaron Rodgers did regnegotiate so the Jets would have some cap room.Quote:
Originally Posted by run pMc
Sure, it's early, but it sure looks like Cousin's not coming back to Minny anyway, so why not get a pick or two for the rebuild? It can't matter to much to Justin Jefferson, as Cousins wasn't coming back anyway.
Rodgers has to go to the Vikings per the Favre rule. Maybe the Jets cut bait and trade him to the Vikings.
Cool thought, but I can’t imagine why a rebuilding Vikes team would want an aging injured HOF QB.Quote:
Originally Posted by sharpe1027
But you never know.
Because it's preordained.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz
Don't get ahead of your skis. First a dick pic.Quote:
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Check your PMs.Quote:
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Same as most of us. Make outlandish claims then never admit when you're wrong. Its entertaining and harmless. Tex is the true master of it though, the rest of us are mere padowans.Quote:
Originally Posted by sharpe1027
I tend to be pretty boring in my claims.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobblehead
Rodgers throwing in warmups today. Worst scenario for Packers would be Rodgers comes back to help Jets win games but doesn't play 65% of snaps. Could be a late 2nd pick.
That's a publicity stunt. No way he's back and ready to play an NFL game until late in the season, and by then it might take time to shake the rust off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joemailman
Sure, Cam Akers tore his Achilles in July and made it back for Week 18, but he was a much younger man, and his performance left something to be desired.
I wouldn't doubt Rodgers is using all kinds of crazy drug cocktails invented by some Bulgarian to help him recover faster and make crazy claims on the podcast circuit... but a 40 year old human body can only recover so fast.
He's probably throwing just because he wants to keep the muscle memory of it, and he probably genuinely misses doing it on the field.
Rodgers has never had a PED suspension so I think a first is only 4 games. He should be shooting the HgH with both hands. Come back in week 13. If he gets busted he serves it out during the time he would have missed if he stayed clean.
Cam Akers probably doesn't have the money to get the good stuff the way guys like Peyton, Kobe, etc do. Anybody think Rodgers isn't doing some crazy shiz here? I have no doubt he is getting every possible sketchy ass intervention. I would too with my legacy on the line. He kinda looks like a chump if he can't come back and do well in NYJ after the way he left.Quote:
Originally Posted by run pMc
There is no chance that Rodgers plays later this season. He can live in a hyperbolic chamber for the next 3 months…won’t matter. He’s not at an age where that injury is going to heal in 4 months.
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How, exactly, is Rodgers moving so quickly? Jaramillo points primarily to the "speed bridge" technique used to accelerate recovery, which allows for early weight-bearing. It's a fairly new procedure that few surgeons are trained to perform, he said, and Rodgers' surgeon, Dr. Neil ElAttrache, a close colleague of Jaramillo's, is "quite the pioneer in sports medicine." He notably repaired Tom Brady's torn ACL in 2008, and the former Patriots QB "only got better," appearing in five more Super Bowls before retiring at 45.
The point is that Akers returned to football in a timeframe that would mean Rodgers could return for the Super Bowl if he came back at the same time. Akers had the same surgeon, but was also 15 years younger.
I’m sure he’ll do plenty of prancing around on the sidelines and in pregame the rest of the year. The diva can’t become a wallflower.
Sketchy ass intervention is probably more likely to increase the time it takes to heal than shorten it. Rodgers probably got something akin to an internal brace ( abstract here), but there is still a big difference between able to move around decently and being healed enough for full contact football.Quote:
Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael