Didn't realize how bad he has gotten.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13...-drive-lambeau
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Didn't realize how bad he has gotten.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13...-drive-lambeau
I kinda doubt a Lambeau visit, on the field anyway, is a good idea at this point.
Shit, Bart doesn't remember Vince Lombardi or recognize himself in the Ice Bowl.
I sorta hope he doesn't try to go to Lambeau for Turkey Day.
What a great story! It will be wonderful to see all 3 of our iconic QBs together at Lambeau on Thanksgiving.
You know what, if the man doesn't recognize the context for the event - his own career, what he's done - and can't remember why he's there, then to me it's not right or fair to put him in that position.
Ya know, there is plenty of video of Starr praising Favre. They should just play that on the 'tron instead of wheeling Starr's empty body onto the field. Reading the article, it's pretty clear Starr is gone and isn't coming back. Godspeed, Bart.
Just finished it. Really don't see the need at this point to bring him along. Bring Majik and McMahon out there. Brett will look glorious in comparison.
I think it will be Starr family's decision. If they want Bart to be there, the Packers can't say no. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of private discussions between the parties involved in the next couple of months on how to handle this.
It's hard to see our heroes go.
I am just not sure what the family is getting out of this. At one point, I want to say Harlan was talking to Steve True, radio mentioned that Bart's wife was very protective of him as he aged and did not want him to be embarrassed. It was mentioned before the stroke and after. It seems like that has changed, unless the article is presenting him as more diminished than he actually is.
Compared to earlier reports of his progress with stem cell treatment, this article paints a much bleaker picture.
I get the sense that Bart wanted to do this before the serious events last year. It seems that Cherry wants this for him, or for the memory to what he was. I think his family might think stepping out onto a field with 70,000+ fans cheering for him will be a good, happy experience for him, even if he is not fully clear why it is happening.
I had just come here to link to the same article.
It would be absolutely fantastic if Starr were able to make it back to Lambeau and bask in the fan's adulation. But if he doesn't recognize it or understand what is going on, what is the point?
Anyways, great article...tough to read at times. I'm way too young for the Lombardi/Starr years but have heard nothing but how much of a gentleman and class act Bart was.
I think the family will decide what is best. It would be totally cool to see all three QB's on the field at the same time, but only if Bart is up to it. The movie script might have him come to Green Bay, hear the roar of the crowd, feel the love and recognize the significance of the moment, but reality may be quite different, even a few months from now.
It could also be that they're using Thanksgiving not necessarily as a big event to honor Favre, the Packers, etc, but to give him something to work towards, to strive towards. To give him a goal to fight for, something they can circle on the calendar.
I agree totally even when I had to have my knee replaced my PT, said if you want to get out of the rehab facility you have to work for it push your self a little harder everyday, So I can see where the DRs, wife,therapists are probably all using the Thanksgiving day event as the golden ring at the end and unless he has a miraculous recovery before then they wont let him on the field unless he is in a wheel chair and just stands up to shake his hand.
Stroke victims sometimes comprehend more than they can convey to others that they comprehend. His family might be banking on that. After all, he apparently still has interest in watching the Packers even if he can't convey to others why he does. Just because he can't explain to others who Lombardi is, or what he, Starr, was to GB doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't comprehend more completely in his own mind. Sometime, the connection between understanding and communicating just doesn't work.
Too bad. At 81 he still could have had some good years left. Are all the blows to the head players took in those days partly responsible?
Sur would have been nice to see Starr, Favre and Rodgers shooting the bull about playing QB in the NFL.
Hopefully this is the case. My Godmother lived the last years of her life with Alzheimers, and when I read the article today, my fear was that Bart was in the early stages of Alzheimers. Perhaps though, Bart's problem really is communication more than comprehension. We can only hope.
Bart had a setback, a very serious infection. Per his son on JSO: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/bart-...328408001.html
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Bart Starr Jr. told WBAY-TV his father developed an infection that put him back in the hospital for four days and almost killed him.
so sad. problems with memory/mind are the worst. body will give in soon.
Still on track. http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...mony/74636228/
If Bart is able to make it, there will probably be some people getting choked up during that ceremony.
Dan Currie, Bob Skoronski, Paul Hornung, Maxie, Ron Kramer, Jerry Kramer, Fuzzy, illegible #?, Norm Masters, Jim Taylor, Hank Greminger
Illegible # looks like 71. List of Packers who wore #71. http://www0.nfl.packers.com/history/...ers/?number=71
I think it's Bill Forester.
What's with the guy in the purple thing?
Platform shoes.
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP....d=1.9&rs=0&p=0
Bart is on schedule to attend. Wednesday, if you want to greet him at the airport and help carry their luggage.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...352781221.html
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14...-lambeau-field
But he's still scheduled to travel tomorrow.Quote:
She said her husband does not remember his iconic career as quarterback of the Packers.
How strange all this must be for him, then, if he cannot remember he is "Bart Starr" in the way we all do - that is, if he doesn't remember he was the QB of the Packers during their greatest years, then what will it be like for him to stand out on the middle of a field and look up at all these cheering people?
I guess it's just the truth that this is not being done for Bart Starr - it's being done for us.
Well, and so the NFL can make some more money, too.