Winners
Matt Flynn for perfect day passing
Loser
Brad Jones for slapping Stafford so late in play
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Winners
Matt Flynn for perfect day passing
Loser
Brad Jones for slapping Stafford so late in play
Studs
Rodgers
Cobb
Nelson
Lacy
Hyde
Daniels/D Jones/Peppers had some nice rushes
Duds
Brad Jones
Special teams
Ball security
Dud - Rodgers.
Injury prone and still cannot win close games or come from behind.
Stud - Stafford. Sure he's inaccurate, but he nearly brought his team back.
Studs:
Won't look like much on stat sheet, but Richard Rodgers had some nice tough catches.
Offensive Line did a great job of protecting an immobile Rodgers.
Studs
Rodgers - MVP. 'nuff said.
Lacy - Ran hard, the fumble sucked, but he had a good day vs. a good rushing defense.
O-line - Really has become a strength for the team.
Cobb/Nelson - Throwing short/intermediate routes and letting them accumulate YAC? What a concept. Too bad it took Rodgers' calf injury to figure it out.
Hyde - Nice to have a solid threat back there on returns.
Duds
Brad Jones - At least Jarrett Bush can contribute on special teams and occasionally makes plays when pressed into duty.
Special teams kicking blocking - The return blocking seems to be good. The kicking teams...not so much. That's going to kill us if they can't find a way to clean it up.
I'm not going to say Stubby was a dud this game, but he wasn't a stud either. He had his team ready to play, granted, but it was a home game. I just wish he'd give up calling the plays. Then he'd be able to get his head in the overall game more. Forgoing the field goal early was OK (although his playcalling down there was suspect IMO), but attempting the 52 yarder later in the game wasn't good.
Lions were a different team when they had field position. He shoulda punted and pinned them deep in their own territory.
Also, the onsides punt attempt...Maybe if Stubby's head was not buried in that playcard he could have anticipated what the Lion's would do and kicked Slocum in the ass.
Who wouldn't know that the Lions would at least TRY to get the ball back there? They needed to score 2 TDs in about 5 min. It would be pointless to just kick the ball to the Packers deep. I was actually thinking the kick would be a lower pooch...just enough to get 10 yards and let the Lions players get that far downfield...but not enough to where the other team would think to fair catch. You would think someone would realize they could fair catch a moonshot.
Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
A. Rodgers 17/22 226 2 0
M. Flynn 1/1 6 0 0
Rushing ATT YDS TD LG
E. Lacy 26 100 0 22
Receiving REC YDS TD LG
J. Nelson 6 86 0 22
R. Cobb 4 80 2 34
R. Rodgers 5 40 0 18
E. Lacy 3 26 0 15
Studs:
A. Rodgers and R. Cobb and Eddie Lacy....Jordy Nelson and R. Rodgers played well.
** Micah Hyde and his 56 Yard Punt return for a TD !
The Defense played good again.
Duds:
ST's again:
** Ohh sure but:
Crosby missed his only FG attempt. The punting was well... Tim Masthay had a 27 yard average for 3 punts.
Studs
The MVP...even Favre would be proud of this effort.
Packer OL...after Rodgers came back, he was barely touched back there.
Lacy...the fumble hurt, but they guy would not go down to any of the first 3 defenders who grabbed him.
Nelson...most yardage for a Packers receiver ever in a season.
Cobb...was the impact in space that Green Bay needed against Detroit. Thompson is going to have to pay the man.
Team defense...no single player stood out, but a lot of guys made a big play here or there. They often came up big when they needed to in the 2nd half.
Duds
Slocum...easily the worst special teams coach in the NFL. I could find a better option in a mental ward.
Brad Jones...easily the worst LB in the NFL. Again, I could find a better option from a group of guys on crutches.
Jim Caldwell...down 10 points with time almost running out in the shadow of his own end zone, he has his team run another play at the 5 second mark for some dumb reason. Could you imagine if someone got hurt on that play when both teams are playoff bound? Thank God whoever caught the 2 yard pass had far more sense than anyone else on the Lions and just ran out of bounds. Really, really, really dumb.
I reckon I did not hear the name Davante Adams at all today. That can't happen in the playoffs.
He and Boykin have been proving to be Mr. Irrelevants this season. It did take some like James Jones a few years to stop dropping passes all the time, but starting with the end of the Patriots game when Boykin dropped the game sealing TD he's had a few more drops, and Boykin has sucked all year. The slant TD to Cobb today would have been either a drop or a pick due to a bad route by the Adams/Boykin combo.
Upon reviewing this game on NFL Shortcuts....
Hoes:
Barrington - Gave up a few passes and was out of position on a few runs...Blitzed with decent velocity, though.
Fat Mac - Why was Lacy still in the game on the Packers' last drive?...Game was pretty much over..Lacy absorbed a ferocious hit before the Packers punted...Coulda caused a head injury...Playcalling on failed goalline drive was predictable.
Suh - What a thug...This guy probably has "Thug Life" tattooed on his abs.
Pimps:
Cobb - Caught a bunch of bullets.
Rodgers - Showed toughness of a rugby playa...Don't follow rugby but read somewhere that those guys play through hamstring pulls, ankle sprains, concussions and bones sticking out of body, etc...Made a couple of though catches.
Lacy - Smashmouth as fuck...Almost a hoe for fumble...Fumbles are simply unacceptable, unless the Packers D is creating them.
Joe and Troy - Not sure why folks hate these 2...They're Fox's #1 team for a reason: They're great...When Fox showed Rodgers pulling some guy's beard, they were like, Rodgers pulled the beard of THAT GUY...lol, reminds me of an episode of Futurama.
Peppers - Committed a bunch of pressures.
Mr. Hyde - Nice punt-6, although its probably 50-50 Sheilds gets called for illegal block behind da back.
Burnett - Other than a missed tackle, this guy looked like Sharper in his prime.
I thought about a coveted 'double stud' for tj but he failed to take a swing at suh. I know that would have caused a penalty, he would have got ejected, and may have lost the game, but it still was the right thing to do.
Special teams has been 'ehh' lately. Particularly blocked set kicks and punting.
I'm sure they'll get that "cleaned up", but I'm not sure if we should use big or small letters. :-) I have a feeling that if one of those foul ups costs the Packers a game in the playoffs, he'll have to consider replacing Slocum if you got 'em.
special teams will likely be the downfall of this team's super bowl hopes. Just terrible in practically every phase. that free kick fiasco was just the icing on the cake that illustrates how woefully unprepared that unit is because the coach is just the worst.
I tend to agree. This is some of the worst special teams play I have ever seen. I almost expect at least one kick a game to be blocked at this point. The gaffes in the last two kicks of the game yesterday were horrific. Not being able to fair catch a moonshot is unacceptable...and we nearly lost the traditional onside kick as well.
Teams should just always onside kick against us. They are probably guaranteed to recover almost half the time.
I heard somewhere that special teams are ragged all around the league this year. Not sure what's going on. I wonder if larger rosters would provide more continuity.
Hyde has been good. how bout the KO coverage on the 41yard return after we scored and stole back the momentum??? Not sure how you equate 3 punts w/ 1 return as something to hang your hat on? in fact the punt was shanked. The penalty against the lions on that punt helped. :roll: indeed.
Hyde wasn't just good on his return, the blocking overall was excellent.
On the shanked punt, without the penalty, the starting line was the 20. That's not good, but not terrible either.
On the 41 yard return, there was a block in the back not called. I think it made a difference.
If you're looking to me as someone who think the Packer's STs are great, I'm not your guy. But they're not "Just terrible in practically every phase"
I read that coaches are attributing it to the new limitations on practices. STs are getting less dedicated practice time, especially in pads, because coaches want to use the time on offense and defense. Also less time for coaches to work with the younger players, who often comprise much of the STs.
Yes to all. The difference is the kick. Onside kick hits the ground first and that changes everything (no fair catch available of course, but offense tips their hand). The kicker on the free kick after the safety can also choose to kickoff in traditional form without a tee (I assume someone would have to hold it for him).
Several Packers signaled fair catch, and would have been afforded the protections of a fair catch (because the ball didn't hit the ground first) but they didn't get to the ball and so it is a live ball, just like any kickoff.
Man, what a screwed up play yesterday. It almost seemed that Cobb was impeded getting to the ball. I can't remember yard marker, but if he could have fair caught it, Crosby would have had a free kick which would have iced the game.
I wonder if any of our players were aware of the rules. Or even the refs, for that matter.
Refs definitely knew what was going on. Packers were confused, especially T.Will. If T. Will had called for a fair catch, there probably would have been a penalty for interference. Nelson and Cobb knew what was up, but they were too far away. I think Cobb reacted too slow, but as you say, there was a lot of trash in his way. Detroit played it really well. Kick the ball really high and start blocking like crazy - get that ball to hit the ground.
I remember watching a game years ago, during the glory years. Lombardi had his kick returner fair catch a short kickoff. Hornung then kicked a free kick and scored a field goal...I believe to win the game. Come to think of it, that might have been after a safety. ...Damn, my memory is going to shit. :bang:
According to NFL Game Summary (PDF):
Two things:Quote:
S.Martin kicks 28 yards from DET 20 to DET 48. R.Cobb MUFFS catch, RECOVERED by DET-C.Vaughn at GB 44. C.Vaughn to GB 44 for no gain (J.Nelson).
1) Apparently, Cobb's fair catch signal was recognized, else how could he muff it? But then interference with the catch should have been called;
2) If Cobb could have caught the ball, Crosby could have tried an uncontested free kick which, if successful, could have won the game for sure.