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partial edit - trying something out. Didn't delete anything. Took the poltiical argument out of a thread moving it to the romper room to keep football there and OT stuff here. Don't be mad guys, I primarily did this to learn how to use the function!!
That is easy. Liberals are winners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossman641
Just ask George Clooney, Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, Al Gore (Gore was robbed in the 00 election) and Angelina Jolie (won Brad Pitt from Jennifer Aniston).
10 bucks says Randy Moss, Javon Walker, Mike Huff, and Ed Reed all voted conservative.
Moss, Huff and Reed all smoke weed, so they are liberals. Walker is a liberal for shedding away from the statue quo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partial
I didn't say they weren't liberal people, I said they voted conservative. There is a huge difference.
You don't seem the understand the concept of balance and a well-rounded person, you're always one extreme or the other tank
Hey, didnt I say I am an extreme liberal?Quote:
Originally Posted by Partial
You're not though. You work for the man. You're a business major going to school at one of those great schools in the nations capital. If thats not selling out then I don't know what is. An extreme liberal would be preaching for equal division of wealth and more tax dollars for inner city programs.
Just because you smoke weed and pretend to care about other people does not make you an extreme liberal. I know many conservative pot heads.
Hehe... :mrgreen:Quote:
Originally Posted by Partial
You CAN be social liberal (to a degree) AND fiscally conservative - i.e., a Libertarian.
Thats the way to be pal, i'm in the same boat
You know nothing about me. I am an economics major not business adminstration, and I seek to build an utopia. Isnt Utopia about "preaching for equal division of wealth and more tax dollars for inner city programs?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Partial
The economy is the most important aspact of every capitalist society and if we can get the most out of it, such socitety will be better off.
but capitalism in general follows the views of our conservative forefathers, not of those of marx, ginsberg, weber etc.
personalize, you sound a lot like myself in what you post politically. I think you've got libertarian tattoed all over you.
And yet reveloution is not impossible. Thats why there are liberals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partial
There isnt much difference between being a libertarian and a liberal. Both are related. The main difference between both is that liberalism take into consideration the masses (such as society as a whole), whereas libertarianism only the individuals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partial
libertarians are closer to being republicans than liberals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear
Yes because libertarians favor the individual over the masses. As a seeker of a utopia, I favor the masses over the individual. That is why I am a liberal. I didnt support Amensty Internation or Make Trade Fair because Im a republican.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby
So you're a socialist.
From Wikipedia:Quote:
Originally Posted by Partial
Social liberalism: Arose in the late 19th century in many developed countries, influenced by the utilitarianism of Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart Mill. Some liberals accepted, in part or in whole, Marxist and socialist exploitation theory and critiques of "the profit motive", and concluded that government should use its power to remedy these perceived problems. According to the tenets of this form of liberalism, as explained by writers such as John Dewey and Mortimer Adler, since individuals are the basis of society, all individuals should have access to basic necessities of fulfillment, such as education, economic opportunity, and protection from harmful macro-events beyond their control. To social liberals, these benefits are considered rights. These positive rights, which must be produced and supplied by other people, are qualitatively different from the classic negative rights, which require only that others refrain from aggression. To the social liberal, ensuring positive rights is a goal that is continuous with the general project of protecting liberties. Schools, libraries, museums, and art galleries are to be supported by taxes. Social liberalism advocates some restrictions on economic competition, such as anti-trust laws and price controls on wages ("minimum wage laws.") It also expects governments to provide a basic level of welfare, supported by taxation, intended to enable the best use of the talents of the population, to prevent revolution, or simply "for the public good."
So Tank, this means you would support ... oh I don't know ... a National Socialist party ... ?
If such party falls into the line of Marxism, perhaps (see the meaning of social liberal above). However, if it falls into that of Stalinism, nope. I am not a Communist (with the capital C).Quote:
Originally Posted by the_idle_threat
post deleted, it's not worth the effort.
Randy Moss is the most dominating player in the NFL.
Not worth the effort arguing with you anyway. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Partial
Google it. Make sure you do it at work ... :mrgreen:Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear
There's no argument tank, just interesting discussion. I have a few socialist friends myself. There was a point in time where I referred to myself as a moderate socialist. Then I wisened up from being 16, read some books by the people that have money and some great things in life, and saw the light as a libertarian.
Btw Tank, Stalinism is nothing more than Marxism in the real world. If you're going to go around believing that pure Marxism is a viable political goal, then you might as well believe in the Care Bears while you're at it.
http://www.care-bears.com/CareBears/...mg/f_share.gif
"Nobody knows how to share like Share Bear. She is a friendly bear who knows how much fun it is to give some of her good things to others. She thinks that sharing is such a treat, that she shows it with her symbolâ€â€Âtwo heart-shaped lollipops!"
Share Bear is a Marxist! :mrgreen:
I'm a libertarian as well. I'm not really any one thing, but libertarian comes the closest to discribing me. I do believe in some socialism. It puts a balance to things IMO.
Seems appropriate to hijack the thread...........'cuz I've got the GIF for you right here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear
http://www.strangecelebrities.com/im...ent/105089.gif
Where do you find these GIFs? They are hilarious!