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Never thought this would be debatable but it is. Comparing the stats over the past 3 years it's kind of ugly.
So throwing out the question to copy something ESPN Madison did by Milke Heller.
Since I need three options, the third option is exactly what Mike Heller's Old Partner in Madison Owen Murphy tweeted to him. He covers the Seattle Seahawks
Ima Homer.
I went homer on my ther poll; but I can't here. AROD needs to play better, plain and simple.
I'm not saying it's a stupid poll, like the Seattle Sportscaster who covers the Seahawks.
But I have to vote Russell
It's Wilson. However, he has something to prove. He's 0-3 at Lambeau with 3 TD's and 6 INT's.
i want to be comforted by that stat but what if it means he is due to have a big game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joemailman
Reversion to mean doesn't mean a big game.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadtownPacker
About equal
Feeling Homeristic tonight
I voted Packers have the best team (in reality I think they are very even and if not for injuries Seattle would be better)
and
Russell.............as opposed to Come on Homers, it's Russell................
Russell Wilson is clearly the better player the past few seasons. Doesn't mean Aaron can't get it up for a big night. Maybe take a blue chew, QB.
I believe the Packers will win.
The only chance Seattle has is Wilson carrying the team. He is what arod once was.
yup. rodgers, due to his condition, age, and resistance to taking full advantage of MLF's O, is currently playing at an "average to above-average" level. still good but not the guy he was or what wilson is now. the eye test says so. the stats say so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Upnorth
Someone had a picture of his WR/TE from a few years ago. Jennings, Driver, Cobb, Nelson, Finley, Adams, Jones, etc.
Our TEs suck. We have 2-3 WRs. So it’s easy to scheme for the Packers outside of Jones/Williams.
If it was 2014, the TEs would be the envy of the league. It would be Gronk and Hernandez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fosco33
The poll question is poorly worded. If the question is: "Which QB is playing better overall going into Sunday's Game" Wilson would be your guy. Who will be the better QB in the game Sunday is yet to be determined. Cleft Crusty boldly predicts Rodgers will scrape the rust off his game, show improved reads of the defense, distribute the ball all over the field, rely on his run game, and emerge victorious. Wilson is always a gamer and will look good running and scrambling, will get some shots to Metcalf and Lockett, but the Seahawks will struggle to find balance on offense, which will limit Wilson's ability to inflict damage. Rodgers will be the better QB in Sunday's game.
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Originally Posted by Cleft Crusty
The Poll is not poorly worded. Any moron can tell you Rodgers is playing better right now :))
Polls are supposed to be debatable. There are no easy answers to my polls.
Rodgers will always be the better QB. Wilson will always be the better leader. I voted accordingly.
If you had attended an 'accredited' J school and maintained a solid C- average, you too could write with the precision and panache of Cleft Crusty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bretsky
Wilson was the subject of a "quotes on record" blast of his lack of leadership and competitive qualities. None of the hiding that Jennings and Finley do.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadtownPacker
I think coddled is the word here: https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/09/07/se...n-pete-carroll
http://images.thehollywoodgossip.com...herman-gif.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by pbmax
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Originally Posted by Bretsky
Who needs a C- Average ???
Out with Clefty; Bring back Bob McGinn :)))
I honestly think Rodgers is better
Rodgers is the new Brady. Just win
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Originally Posted by RashanGary
You swap those two QB's for the game, and Wilson and the Packers would pulverize Rodgers and the Seahawks.
I disagree. Winning is an art that's hard to pin down. AR has become a great leader and great person. By being so unselfish and letting other people get credit, he helps empower everyone around him and sets an example to do your part and feel good about that part even if it's not glorious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz
I respect him and admire his leadership. And a game with 45 guys pulling yogether, sometimes leadership is a quality that can't be quantified but a quality I really look for
I agree there are some things that Rodgers has mastered - he's been there, done that, knows the offense, can go through progressions, sees the big picture as it unfolds.
But I think Wilson now has all those skills, and is more mobile and, I think, a more accurate passer.
I don't know about the great leader, great person part. From the thin slices we get, that's not the conclusion I would draw. Ten years ago I would have agreed with you wholeheartedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by RashanGary
If Geronimo Allison and Trevor Davis could always play against zone defenses, you'd really have something.
As it is, each is late period, aged Antonio Freeman without having had a super star Antonio Freeman prime.
Which I think boils gbgary's question down to this: Does Gute rectify the WR position to Rodgers standards or The Flower?
I bet its the Flowers and you have to hope one candidate turns in a Lazard like mind meld.
In a zone today, can feel the reasons Jennings and Finley had beefs. Either that or too much coffee.
I'm on a roll, hang on.
Which boils down the age old management question to this:
If Gute wants to win, now and in the near future, you give one to Rodgers (maybe FA here) and one or two to The Flower. You run with Rodgers O while everyone's health holds out, but you make that guy understand he needs to run Flower Time if WRs or OL get banged up.
Else Rodgers goes to mentor Sam Darnold.
Rodgers current predicament is not wanting to throw contested balls to receivers he doesn't trust to go get them. Its Favre's issue with Schroder and Original Fraud combined.
Teams have stymied Rodgers at times over the last 6-7 years playing man and 2 deep. When you see 2 deep, run 2 guys deep and leave the middle open for crossers. Teams have been doing this to the Packers for a lot of years.
That was partially McCarthy. He saw 2 deep as an excuse to throw Go or out routes behind the CB and in front of the S.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zool
Remember the Fail Mary first half?
Not on purpose. I try to block it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by pbmax
Who's had the better career? Rodgers. Who's had the better season? Wilson. Who is actually better right now? Now, that is close. If you give me the choice of the two with equal receivers and equal line, I will take Rodgers.
I kind of agree; Russ is still a playmaker. AROD has not beenQuote:
Originally Posted by Fritz
I don't think there's much doubt about it. The way Wilson is playing now, plus Aaron Jones and that offensive line? And Green Bay's defense, which is a trump card for them this year? Wilson and the Packers would roll the Seahawks. Rodgers would be overthrowing Lockett and underthrowing Metcalf, then scowling after he stalks off the field when it's fourth and five and he just missed on yet another long shot down the field.
Fixed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz
If we were in the same room, Zool, I'd scowl at you and roll my eyes. Maybe shrug my shoulders in disgust, even though - or perhaps because - you're right.
No matter what else happens, I will be forever grateful to finally find out why Jimmy Johnson was mad at Dan Marino.
We’d both be yelling at the tv, telling him roll out and hit a RB or TE for 3 yards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fritz
I really hope they get some long sustained drives tomorrow. Give the defense a few long rests.
The dink and dunk is working, Why can’t he see that?
Defenses adjust. They noticed the Packers were scoring more for a month.Quote:
Originally Posted by George Cumby