Jordan Love - 29/39, 284 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 1 FL
Dontayvion Wicks- 6 catches, 97 yards
Enagbare - 1 sack and forced fumble
Bucs 452 total yards, 8-12 on 3rd and 4th down conversions
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Jordan Love - 29/39, 284 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 1 FL
Dontayvion Wicks- 6 catches, 97 yards
Enagbare - 1 sack and forced fumble
Bucs 452 total yards, 8-12 on 3rd and 4th down conversions
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Our O played well. Tampa has a good defense so it wasnt surprising to finish where we did on O.
D didn’t even show up. 9 drives and they can only stop 2. We didn’t even stop 25% of their series.
And after the game some of the D players were laughing, smiling and shaking hands. You just got your ass handed to you. How do you laugh about that?
two very ugly weeks for the D against shitty offenses
wouldn't say that offense played good enough to win
love started missing a lot of throws when we got down. 17 rushes to over 40 pass plays. tampa pinned their ears back and came after him
I just wonder if Jaire and the safeties have been out enough games that opposing O coordinators can see how we defend against the pass. It was too early for Detroit and KC to have video on it.
It might answer why DeVito and Mayfield looked like Pro Bowlers against us and Mahomes looked average against us.
It doesn't answer why we made no in-game changes to counter what was seen on tape.
That's why Barry should go.
When asked if he would consider a change at defensive coordinator, Matt LaFleur said: “Now’s not the time for that.”
When asked why not, he said: “I’ve got to find solutions. I’ve got to go back and take a look at the film.”
Next Year starts now.
The only reason I know they have a punter is because he boomed a 60+ yarder with no return and stuck it inside the 5. Thats it. 1 punt. The other stop was Baker being Baker.
Barry put together a few nice games and look what happened.....a winning streak. Now he is back to being who he is.
baker had completed less then 50 percent of his passes in the two games leading to this one
today was only the second time in lambeau history that a QB had a perfect QBR (rodgers was the other). and it came in less then ideal conditions which should have been helping the D
you do that to show that you and the franchise aren't going to settle for mediocrity (or less than, in this case)
i ruled out playoffs before the year, so i'm not too torn up about todays loss, but we damn well better see improvement as the season goes on and the young guys get reps. offense is making some nice improvements, defense has not, in any way.
with so many high draft picks on that side of the ball, you can not stick with a shit coach directing them
Drop LePew and get Belichick.
This is more an indictment of Barry than it is of Campbell imo.Quote:
Daire Carragher
@DaireCarragher
Per PFF, De’Vondre Campbell allowed 135 passing yards in coverage today — the most of any Packers linebacker since at least 2006.
Andy Herman
@AndyHermanNFL
Buccaneers had these situations today:
1st & 15
2nd & 29
3rd & 12
2nd & 18
Here were the results on the next play:
1st & 15 - 9 yard gain
2nd & 29 - 24 yard gain
3rd & 12 - 15 yard gain
2nd & 18 - 21 yard gain
The defense made Baker Mayfield look like vintage Aaron Rodgers today. I think he had a perfect passer rating, which is a bad indictment of the defense (if last week's game vs. DeVito wasn't bad enough).
Baker threw 4 TDs and 6 incompletions. SIX.
Last week they let a 3rd stringer complete 80% of his throws and run for 70 yards while not sacking him once.
The defense is allowing historic performances. I know MLF likes his guys and is loyal, but this is absurd.
The offense had its struggles today but I don't think they were the problem. The back 7 on defense were terrible today, and I don't think the coordinator was any better.
Atrocious defense lost this game.
Packers ain’t mathematically eliminated from the wally dance with this loss. But I have better odds of making it big in Hollywood as a screenwriter/lyricist AND dating Jennifer Lawrence than the Packers have of making the playoffs.
A second straight non-playoffs season means the Packers would be eligible for Hard Knocks, unless they can The Frog. I hope the NFL forces the Packers to be on that fucking show.
I seriously miss Dom Capers. I miss the Psycho, DB blitzing and the fucking zone blitz.
Barry looks like a dead man walking. Odds are good he ain’t gonna be back next season. Might as well can the vanilla coach already and use the last 3 games as a platform for an assistant to audition for the DC gig.
I’d like to see The Frog give the DB coach, Greg Williams, a shot.
I think the Packers would love to not be on Hard Knocks. Well, MLF and Gute anyway. Distractions for a young team, and they like to keep things buttoned up anyway.
Only team who would like it less would be the Patriots with Belichick. Can you imagine him with film crews everywhere?
Capers defense was good until people figured it out, and once he made it phone book sized so only vets could play in it. Offenses are better about turnovers now, so a defense that is predicated on turnovers is unlikely to be as successful. Still, I agree a more agressive defense with tighter coverage would likely have improved GB's chances in recent games.
Disagree on giving an assistant a chance... hiring the interim guy to be the guy the next season never works out well, and I think it just becomes a distraction and adds to the drama. They're still technically in the hunt, they won't waver now. They didn't when they were 4-8 (or 8-8, or 8-9) last year. I want Barry gone, but I don't think it happens mid-season (if ever). I do agree Greg Williams has helped the secondary out vs. Jerry Gray, most likely because Gray disagreed with Barry and probably wouldn't/couldn't get on same page with him. He'd be worth keeping around, but I don't think making him DC is the way.
Chris Godwin is a good player, but Barry's D made him look like Justin Jefferson. :(
Also - remember when David Moore played (that one game) for Green Bay back in 2021? No? He did.
Need to stop throwing to the old guys.
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Zach Kruse
@zachkruse2
Correction!
#Packers QB Jordan Love when targeting rookies Dontayvion Wicks, Jayden Reed, Tucker Kraft and Malik Heath vs. Bucs:
19/24 for 235 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 135.2 passer rating
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Andy Herman
@AndyHermanNFL
3rd and 4.
Down 7.
8:48 left in the game
Packers might as well be playing 9 on 11 because the safeties are in Escanaba.
Complete to Godwin with Campbell/Quay in zone.
Situational tone deafness is a real problem. Donate today.
Yeah, our DBs weren't great, but they were adequate - and damn good considering the low level mostly that we got them at. Where the Packers D really stunk was at ILB. Walker has some good qualities, but he can't pass cover worth shit, and most of his tackles are down field after a large gain. Campbell was just pathetic all around.
The problem, though, was God damned Joe Barry putting them in impossible spots with his scheme, and then just letting the situation fester instead of adjusting. Other teams - probably almost 31 others - do a lot better with the same or worse talent.
Love was 29-39, 280+ yards, 2 TDS, no picks ....... that ought to be good enough to win a game.
If they were adequate, they wouldn't be giving up that much space or getting burned that badly.Quote:
Yeah, our DBs weren't great, but they were adequate
The pass defense is playing below adequate. Which throws did Baker make that would be considered difficult? He had two incompletions at halftime and six for the game. He almost had as many TDs as incompletions. That's not good pass defense.
I agree the ILBs didn't play well - especially Devondre - but the secondary was very bad.
This was a failure of the pass defense - both coaching and execution. The Bucs didn't really have to run much because Baker had easy throws. I can't think of a single 3rd down in the game where I thought GB would stop them.
The part I've put in boldface type is the kind of stuff that really pisses me off about you Barry-bashers: you complain and complain and bitch and whine that a Barry defense absolutely cannot stop the run.
And in YOUR OWN POST, you point out that Joe Barry found a way to stop Tampa Bay from running. Yet still you all bitch.
Joe Barry sounds like M3. "If my ILB can't cover a 100 catch wr then of course my scheme will fail. Campbell has to do better"
Not saying, guarantee Williams the DC gig for next season. Just saying, give the man a shot in the last 3 games. There’s no point in keeping Barry around anymore since he’s all but Pettined (allow to walk with an expiring contract). Perhaps Williams will call an exotic blitz, something Barry never does.
In the event that Williams pans out and eventually lands a head coaching gig, the Packers will get a 3rd rounder. Hell, the 69ers have received a tons of 3rds for grooming a tons of “minority” head coaches - even got one for Mike McDaniel.
The Packers owe it to the City of Green Bay to be on Hard Knocks. The city paid for the Lambeau renovation. Hard Knocks would provide a bit of a short-term economic boom for the city.
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The Onion
@TheOnion
James Webb Telescope Finds Evidence Of Packers Secondary Lined Up 20 Million Light Years Off Receivers
1:18 PM · Dec 18, 2023
Wasn't it 20, not 14? Or was that sarcasm too?
Were you being sarcastic when you talked about the "bounty gate" guy a our DC? I wouldn't hold that against him, and as I recall, he was a good DC. But the guy is just 12 years younger than me - about 64 years old. Or were you talking about some other Williams?
What I see around the league is a lot of young hot shot DCs. That's what I want for the Packers.
Ryan Wood
@ByRyanWood
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#Packers had their defensive meeting this morning with Joe Barry. His message to the defense, according to Eric Stokes: “All the explosive plays, that shit will get you beat.”
Ryan Wood
@ByRyanWood
Matt LaFleur says Joe Barry will remain his defensive coordinator rest of this season. On why he's not firing Barry now: "If I thought that was the best solution today, then we'd make that decision."