2024 3rd Round Pick #91 Overall Ty'Ron Hopper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq2ksfPOM9o

Overview
An off-ball linebacker with length, speed and agility, Hopper is lacking in field vision and instincts. He can be a step late to diagnose play design and has moments where he looks lost in coverage. Hopper has sideline-to-sideline range and plenty of physicality to hit what needs to be hit. There are holes in his game that can be exploited, but he has traits and should get a chance as an NFL backup with special teams value.

Strengths
Long-limbed with above-average explosiveness.
Speed to trigger downhill and disrupt play design.
Can attack linemen with force or punch and play around them.
Flies in to make plays as a striker.
Agility and twitch to bounce late and find cutting running backs.
Can work past blitz pickup and threaten the pocket.

Weaknesses
Plays through a straw with limited field vision.
Slow to key play development and stay ahead of blockers.
Lacks decisiveness and takes substandard angles to the ball.
Hard hitter but needs to improve tackle security.
Looked lost at times with coverage responsibilities.

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Not a fan of this pick. Kind of small, not that athletic, and misses a lot of tackles. This reminds me of the Shemar Jean-Charles pick. He'll probably be the best pick of the draft.

Another Packer pick that makes no sense to me. They need linebackers, but not "meh" athletes with no vision. This one looks like he's got "third round bust on a reach" written all over him.

I don't get this one at all. If he was a great, great athlete, you could say "well, they're taking a flyer on him to see if Hafley can develop him," but he is not apparently a great athlete.

These Packer picks are mostly very confusing to me after the first two.

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Originally Posted by Fritz

Another Packer pick that makes no sense to me. They need linebackers, but not "meh" athletes with no vision. This one looks like he's got "third round bust on a reach" written all over him.

I don't get this one at all. If he was a great, great athlete, you could say "well, they're taking a flyer on him to see if Hafley can develop him," but he is not apparently a great athlete.

These Packer picks are mostly very confusing to me after the first two.

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I did some research on this guy for our draft contest. He fits when GB is lookign for. But I honestly thought he was a round 5 guy....maybe at best 4. Can't imagine him being drafted before Payton WIlson.....whose ofte insured, but if when healthy he's pretty amazingly good

Well, as I wrote elswewhere, I watched Guter's presser. He kept talking about this guy being fast, and being able to hit. This really was just his guy - clearly Wilson's injury history was a factor.

I don't know shit about these guys, so in Guter I trust until we see how it all plays out. Why get all worked up about something I don't really even understand?

Ty'Ron must have freakishly long arms as he seems to be the Webster definition of reach.

Guessing several teams had Payton Wilson crossed off their list due to medical.

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Originally Posted by Spaulding

Ty'Ron must have freakishly long arms as he seems to be the Webster definition of reach.

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Good one!

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This was a meh pick for me. Seems more like a late 4th to 5th round talent to me. He lacks sideline to sideline speed but he does play physically. Wilson is clearly a better player, but is a red flag injury prospect which is why he plummeted. This kid might pan out if he can gain 10-12 pounds and not lose any mobility.

I got a sense from listening to Guter that this is in part a special teams pick. if he develops, great, but apparently he's being counted on for special teams. And for depth. As Guter said, "It's a 4-2-5 league." 4-2-5.

Seems like they want LBers that take chances and are okay with mistakes. The anti-AJ Hawk types.

I’m guessing there was a maybe a steep drop at LB on their draft board after him. This wasn’t a very deep draft at LB to me.

Oddly, the scouting department might know something we morons don't:



Zach Kruse
@zachkruse2
Ty'Ron Hopper had 65 pressures and 9.5 sacks as a blitzer/pass-rusher in his collegiate career. Disruptive behind the line -- 31.5 TFLs over just 26 starts. Throw in almost 500 special teams snaps and the Packers clocking him in the high 4.5s.

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Originally Posted by George Cumby

Oddly, the scouting department might know something we morons don't:



Zach Kruse
@zachkruse2
Ty'Ron Hopper had 65 pressures and 9.5 sacks as a blitzer/pass-rusher in his collegiate career. Disruptive behind the line -- 31.5 TFLs over just 26 starts. Throw in almost 500 special teams snaps and the Packers clocking him in the high 4.5s.

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Originally Posted by Joemailman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq2ksfPOM9o

Overview
An off-ball linebacker with length, speed and agility, Hopper is lacking in field vision and instincts. He can be a step late to diagnose play design and has moments where he looks lost in coverage. Hopper has sideline-to-sideline range and plenty of physicality to hit what needs to be hit. There are holes in his game that can be exploited, but he has traits and should get a chance as an NFL backup with special teams value.

Strengths
Long-limbed with above-average explosiveness.
Speed to trigger downhill and disrupt play design.
Can attack linemen with force or punch and play around them.
Flies in to make plays as a striker.
Agility and twitch to bounce late and find cutting running backs.
Can work past blitz pickup and threaten the pocket.

Weaknesses
Plays through a straw with limited field vision.
Slow to key play development and stay ahead of blockers.
Lacks decisiveness and takes substandard angles to the ball.
Hard hitter but needs to improve tackle security.
Looked lost at times with coverage responsibilities.

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I know a highlight clip isn't really indicative, but what I watched was 100% opposite of this report. He was instantly diagnosing plays. The bad angles thing basically means he isn't taking on blockers, but weaving through them. I have seen very little of this guy and he wasn't on my radar, but again, that tape doesn't match that report.

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Originally Posted by bobblehead

I know a highlight clip isn't really indicative, but what I watched was 100% opposite of this report. He was instantly diagnosing plays. The bad angles thing basically means he isn't taking on blockers, but weaving through them. I have seen very little of this guy and he wasn't on my radar, but again, that tape doesn't match that report.

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One of the things that gets me is scouting reports are often 180 degrees from one another, totally contradicting one another. Art not Science.

I was gonna put this guy on my Draft Contest list, but after the 4th round. Oh well.

I like Trevin Wallace alot more than this dude, but that's why I'm not a GM.

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Originally Posted by pittstang5

I was gonna put this guy on my Draft Contest list, but after the 4th round. Oh well.

I like Trevin Wallace alot more than this dude, but that's why I'm not a GM.

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Me too; but I was going to list him in round 5. Wallace was already gone when GB picked as a fyi

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Originally Posted by Bretsky

Me too; but I was going to list him in round 5. Wallace was already gone when GB picked as a fyi

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Oh, he was? Missed that.