Interesting tidbit from KFFL
Packers | Favre told Thompson he was retiring
Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:59:41 -0700
ESPN's Ed Werder reports at one point last week, Green Bay Packers QB Brett Favre felt he was being pressured into an answer by the team about his future so he told general manager Ted Thompson he was retiring. Thompson then told Favre to take a step back and spend more time making his decision.
Edit: Sorry Motif, I missed your post of the same information.
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Now, how do you suppose they would have gleaned this information?
I wonder if they got this from the same source who said Favre was going to announce his intentions this morning.
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Not sure Harvey, it's a big soap opera of heresay. It's actually getting sort of funny. I get the distinct feeling it won't end soon either.
Brett loves it also
I think he wished everyone would leave him the heck alone
I wish Thompson is quitting.
Right or wrong, Turtle Thompson is taking a very patient approach to fixing a team with many many holes in it. He needs to build the house by August and he's still out deciding which nails to buy.
I think this whole situation is getting old. Fine at this point retire. This kills me to say it, but this is getting a bit silly. At least last year Favre stayed out of the media until he announced his decision, now he his claiming that the Packers needed to go out and make a Reggie White like signing, and that he would be more suprised if this team went 12-4 than 4-12. Man what losing does to somebody.
It is time for Favre to shit or get off the pot. Thompson may not have done enough in free agency, and maybe he hasn't done enough to protect his aging QB in the last two years, but reality has set in for me, there will be life after Favre, and like it or not the Packers will go on without Favre. This wishy washy shit is getting old, and if Favre does choose to retire, he was wasted all our time and energy worrying about it when he could have just ended it in January and gone out a loser throwing 29 INTs. Apparently if he does retire he will believe that his physical skills have erroded to the point where we can't lead this team to victory.
I have supported Favre up till this point, and have put most of the blame on Thompson for basically sitting on his wallet, but Favre knows whether or not he wants to play and he is forcing the team to beg him for an answer. His physical wounds have healed from the 2005 season he is basically healthy, and regardless of what some say, he still has the skills to make plays and win some ball games, its just too bad he is too bitter at Thompson to give the fans one more glimpse of his greatness.
One point Nutz; he absolutely wants to play. There is no question about that. Truth be told, if the Turtle is going to ignore using our salary cap to sign quality starters, this is going to be a long process back to winning....so Favre might be best serves going to a team much closer to winning.
And I am as big of a Favre lover as any out there; I thought TT would build the talent level of this team with the 35 Million. Favre's looking for an excuse to return and TT hasn't given him one.
It's a rough thing to reflect on.
Nobody wants to be on a loser, and I can't blame Favre for being pissed at the fact that this team had a bundle of money and did little to improve this football team, especially on the offensive side of the ball. At the same time if he wants to so bad then it isn't that hard of a choice, come back and play and the Packers will automatically be a better team. I guarantee they wouldn't be 4-12 again, they would be at leat a 7-9 team with Favre at the helm, and I would bet they have a shot at the playoffs. I would never bet against Favre while he was in a uniform.
I just don't think he want to play that bad anymore, I think the fire is close to burning out. Remember in Febuary, when he said that he isn't sure if he wants the ball in crunch timed? When the hell has Favre ever said anything as outlandish as that in his 14 years in Green Bay? The man has always wanted the ball, he was the guy that was never afraid of making a mistake, and more times than not his gunslinger attitude won the Packers football games in the fourth quarter. In my opinion he just doesn't want it anymore and all he is doing now is trying to convience himself that he still does. Mentally and emotionally he is done, he thought a more active appoach in free agency by Thompson would re-kindle that fire, and it hasn't in both accounts. Emotiionally and mentally Favre has already left the game.
I am worried he's lost some of his confidence. But honestly, you or I could have devised a defense to shut down Brett Favre those last six games. Best CB on Driver and roll a safety and double him the whole game. They didn't have another guy on that team that could get open, and the interior of that line, which they have chosen not to improve, absolutely sucked.
So I don't blame him for the indecision and lack of confidence in where the turtle is taking us.
[quote="Rastak"]Interesting tidbit from KFFL
Packers | Favre told Thompson he was retiring
Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:59:41 -0700
ESPN's Ed Werder reports at one point last week, Green Bay Packers QB Brett Favre felt he was being pressured into an answer by the team about his future so he told general manager Ted Thompson he was retiring. Thompson then told Favre to take a step back and spend more time making his decision.
Sorry. I don't believe that.
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His facial expressions were not positive today; I guess that would not surprise me anymore. To me Favre wants to play, but he wants the chance to win now. A change of scenery might be best for him.
As I've been saying, it’s NOT up to Brett Favre to decide on retirement. Favre can still play the game at a high level, and everyone in the NFL knows he's still a top 5 qb. Football-wise, Favre's fate lies in Thompson's hands. If Thompson upgrades the Pack, Favre returns; if Polar Bear doesn't, he is the one forcing Favre into retirement. Thus far, it looks like Thompson is forcing Favre to retire. Thompson should be grateful that Favre hasn’t call it quit yet; as long as there isn’t an official announcement, there's always the hope of a Favre return. Obviously, Pack are a better team with Favre,
People like Bulldog, Collins, NutRoll, and sometime Harlan like to say the Packers don’t owe Favre anything. I disagree. Maybe things might change 20 years from now but RIGHT NOW Brett Favre is bigger than the Packer. Brett Favre is the Packer. The Packers owes it to Favre to field a competitive team. You would argue that the Packers have reimbursed Favre millions of dollars for his service, and therefore owe him nothing. The truth is that is only a small percentage compared to the revenue Favre generated for the team. Favre is instrumental in helping the Packers reach the financial prosperity they are experiencing today. Brett Favre deserves to go out a winner.
In sum, the legend is tempting retirement not because he can no longer play the game, but because the Polar Bear is forcing him to do so.
Ted Thompson is inconsistent, incompetent, inactive, incapable and a Polar Bear.
Yea, he looked pretty bummed. I would guess he'll play this year though in the end. I still think there's some weird dynamic going here we aren'ty privy to. He's had some real interesting quotes as of late. He hasn't exactly had flowery praise for his offensive line. Peyton Manning going ripped when he spoke about his offensive line. Heck, I recall a few threads on JSO just RIPPING Manning after he seemed to blame his offensive line for protection problems.[/quote]His facial expressions were not positive today; I guess that would not surprise me anymore. To me Favre wants to play, but he wants the chance to win now. A change of scenery might be best for him.
Favre has set the bar too high for himself to legitimately come back in. He wants to compete for the Super Bowl or retire.
What would that take with what's left in FA, potential June cuts and draft picks? How on earth can TT or anyone make the Pack SB contenders THIS YEAR?
I think the train has left the station, and Brett's not on it. I hate the thought of not seeing a #4 jersey leading our O ever again, but, I think that was it....
""What would that take with what's left in FA, potential June cuts and draft picks? How on earth can TT or anyone make the Pack SB contenders THIS YEAR? ""
TT could have revamped this team through free agency with his 35MIL and chose not to.
As for what's left, I'd think the Packers trading for a starting center like Jeff Faine and siging a past star like Woodsen or Law might do it........but TT is too cheap to get anything done fast so the decision, as for TT's moves, could drag on.
The fact that Favre mentioned Whittacker & Wells by name says a lot. There are no Reggie Whites out there. For the sake of argument TT could trade for John Abraham & Jeff Faine & pick up a FA guard but would that make the Packers a Super Bowl contender even with Favre? I doubt it. Favre can still play but I'm sure he doesn't want to get the shit beat out of him by the Bears again. Reading between the lines I think he's done. And I don't want to draft a QB in the 1st round either, that's too much money to have tied up at one position. There are good developmental QB's like Brodie Croyle or Quinton Porter that can be taken later. NFL Draft Countdown has TT taking Hawk in the 1st, Youboty, CB, in the 2nd, & Charles Spencer, OG, in the 3rd. I'd be happy with that, maybe Brett would too. If not, I think A-Rod will do ok.
Thanks Ted!
You guys know how big of a fan I am of Favre.... but all along I've been asking myself .. if he really WANTS to play, what is the big decision? It seems to be that he really doesn't want to come back unless it's worth this time, so to speak. That isn't the same Brett Favre who we all know.... Nutz touched on some great points about this in his post.
and B, I agree with you about TT doing nothing. It didn't help that the salary cap went up quite a bit this year and there were a lack of "cap casualties" out there. basically, to get a top name FA, overpaying is the name of the game. But yes, he could most certainly have added some depth without overspending.
Agree with Nutz and GBMichele that there's something weird going on with Favre. Not sure what - he seems to have changed, perhaps. But we all do.
One thing I am beginning to dislike is Favre's willingness to assume publicly that he's more important than anyone else on the team. Yes, that's true, but you don't say that out loud. For example, let's say TT had gone out and offered Steve Hutchinson the sun, the moon and the stars to come to GB, with the idea implicit that this might lure Favre back. Okay, fine. But how would Clifton and Tauscher feel about being paid less than a guard in this hierarchical league? How's Will Whitticker feeling about Favre calling him a rook all over again?
Does this all mean then that if TT picks Williams or Hawk or Davis at #5 then Favre comes back because they could have an immediate impact, but if TT picks Young then Favre won't come back? Or if TT doesn't draft a guard by the third round Favre won't come back? Is Brett studying the draft sites on his computer to decide who's acceptable as a guard and who's a project? It's getting too weird.
Favre always struck me as a big "team first" guy, but his willingness to crack on the quality of his teammates - publicly - is disturbing. Sure, they might suck - but you don't say that out loud.
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