Packers to be sellers, not buyers at trade deadline?

[Patler]

Some interesting thoughts from Silverstein:

https://www.packersnews.com/story/sp...m=article_body

Trade away now players he doesn't plan to resign in the offseason anyway. Trading Bahktiari or Linsley would save significant cap space this year, which could be applied to resigning the other, Jones or Williams.

Trade players not living up to their contracts, but who would still have value to other contenders, for example: Amos, Lowery, Turner. Again, gaining cap space for next offseason resignings. Each can be replaced in the Packer's lineup, but would have value to others, and would contribute significant cap savings.

Williams, King, etc. wouldn't add much cap savings but could be traded for immediate draft picks, possibly higher than the Packers would receive in compensatory picks from losing them in free agency. Useful for overall roster building. Or, trade for a receiver now.

Interesting piece.

[RashanGary]

I don’t think they’ll go this way. They still have the flexibility to make some adjustments and keep the guys they want even with the projected Covid affect being split over the next few years and the cap having to be played with a bit.

I don’t think the Packers are in the group of sellers because they’re so close to being a contender or champion this year.

[RashanGary]

If the season had unfolded differently, I would say we would sell.


But we got best case from a bunch of important players at positions of question.

Gary
Lazard
Barnes
Greene
Sullivan
Tonyan
Jamal Williams



Although we have a few short term injuries, we’re poised to get healthy and be in position to make a run. We get a mini bye after week 8 and can really start peaking down the last half of the season.


It’s been ideal this year for the Packers with short term injuries and lucky development at so many spots. I don’t see us selling right now. I see a possible championship and a decent enough cap situation going forward to keep it going.

[texaspackerbacker]

I really doubt it either happens. Am I just misremembering, or is this the first year this "buying" and "selling" has been a thing in the NFL? Baseball, yeah, it's that way every year, but I never heard it before regarding football, and I seriously doubt the Packers make any significant moves.

[RashanGary]

I really doubt it either happens. Am I just misremembering, or is this the first year this "buying" and "selling" has been a thing in the NFL? Baseball, yeah, it's that way every year, but I never heard it before regarding football, and I seriously doubt the Packers make any significant moves.

The Covid cap situation is being split up over 3 years. Teams who have already been playing with the cap have no more room to play. If they’re not in it, they have to sell or suffer. The Packers aren’t in that group. I wouldn’t say they’re cap situation is good. They’re gonna have to stretch it with any contracts they make, but they have room to do it.

[texaspackerbacker]

And that's another thing. I grudgingly accept that it is going down $20 million or so this year, but why in the hell would it go down for 3 years when almost certainly things are gonna be back to normal - and normal revenue - by next season? I suspected that maybe this buyer/seller speculation had to do with the corona crap. However, I also suspect that it is overrated and not likely to happen in any significant way for the Packers or any other team.

[Joemailman]

And that's another thing. I grudgingly accept that it is going down $20 million or so this year, but why in the hell would it go down for 3 years when almost certainly things are gonna be back to normal - and normal revenue - by next season? I suspected that maybe this buyer/seller speculation had to do with the corona crap. However, I also suspect that it is overrated and not likely to happen in any significant way for the Packers or any other team.

The reason is the loss of revenue this year is going to be far greater than 20 million. So rather than have the salary cap go down 60-70 million in one year, they're spreading the lost revenue over 3 years.

[RashanGary]

The reason is the loss of revenue this year is going to be far greater than 20 million. So rather than have the salary cap go down 60-70 million in one year, they're spreading the lost revenue over 3 years.

Yep. NFL (Players and league) decided to split it over the course of 3 or 4 years so the league could adjust a little and not completely flip. It’s about 20 for a bunch of years by most guesses right now.

But, the Packers know the length of the changes. Everyone has less money so contract numbers will be down. They have flexibility with Alexander for sure to make his hit harder later and really just about any contract they sign. So the Packers are poised to be ok. Probably, almost definitely, they’re gonna conduct business differently and do some of the things NO, philly and KC have done to keep talent. And in the long run, the cap will come back up so they won’t be selling the future while doing it either.

[RashanGary]

Thanks to their long term approach, they are one of the really good teams in decent shape. There are some others in better shape. Miami, New England, New York Giants (who have some really easy 2021 cuts and endless space after 2022)

So there will be a power flip next year with. NO, Philly and maybe KC the hardest hit and then the above teams I think the biggest advances. I’d throw Jacksonville into the teams with a huge opportunity too.

[texaspackerbacker]

The reason is the loss of revenue this year is going to be far greater than 20 million. So rather than have the salary cap go down 60-70 million in one year, they're spreading the lost revenue over 3 years.

I know that's the excuse, but I can't see it happening anyway. Those rich bastards that own the teams (other than the Packers) can certainly afford it. And the Packers, I'm sure, won't be hurting either. I wouldn't even rule out the government throwing in a chunk of money to keep the cap up.

They aren't gonna let this stupid corona crap upset the competitive balance or the entertainment value.

[GB-Brandon]

They could probably trade P.Smith and Amos and and get a draft pick and not even have to eat any dead $ getting the contract off the books.

[RashanGary]

They could probably trade P.Smith and Amos and and get a draft pick and not even have to eat any dead $ getting the contract off the books.

You do eat dead money on a trade. Ideally, Turner, Amos and P are guys you'd rather keep for one more because the dead money is really high this year upon trade, high enough to make it tough next year and then very doable the year after. Just not ideal for the up coming frenzy. Plus, we get worst losing any of them right now in what looks like a SB potential year.

[RashanGary]

The 4th year of all of their deals looks doubtful in the corona affected cap years. The third year looks less likely than before but not ideal cut time.

I expect the Packers to make few cuts next year
I expect them to sign any of the guys they feel like keeping with some cap creativity
I expect Amos and Preston to be cut after 2021
I expect Adams and Jaire to be the big contract replacements with a potential free agent or even a new deal for Amos under the current cap.

[GB-Brandon]

Belichick WOULD LOVE to be in the Packers situation where the QB situation is handled and all he had to do was shuffle the rest of the roster accordingly!!!

[Joemailman]

Hope Brandon doesn't see this thread.

[GB-Brandon]

I’m totally down for trading away some of the fat for some more weapons for Rodgers !!! As long as the “The Vision is Clear” then fine. I’d imagine a team like the Seahawk would covet Preston Smith but then of course your helping a rival which could come back to bite ya!

I’m still not sure what Gute’s long term goal is. One year he spends over a 100 million in free agency. Next year he goes the other direction and drafts a QB in first round and doesn’t really draft for immediate need all the way down. Then Rodgers and the LaFluer offense has exceeded expectations with mostly Thompson’s players. I’m sure Rodgers play far exceeding Gute’s expectations!!!

Now we’re here at the Trade Deadline and I’m still trying to figure out what the fuck Gute’s plan really is here. The obvious move right now is your the no.1 seed “right now” and your one piece away on offense from being truly elite. You go “Get That Piece” and you patch the defense together and go make a run for a Lombardi then let this cap shit and who your gonna keep work out “After Your World Champs”!!!!!!

[GB-Brandon]

At some point Gute is going to have to win without Thompson’s players. I’m not sure he can. Would like to get a World Championship before he tries because it’s gonna be a bumpy ride!!

[RashanGary]

New England is trying to trade Gilmore. They're loading up to exploit all of the quality and well priced players that are going to be available this offseason.

[GB-Brandon]

New England is trying to trade Gilmore. They're loading up to exploit all of the quality and well priced players that are going to be available this offseason.

Yeah, Belichick is doing a flip. We can do the same thing after we win the Super Bowl this year. I’ll take a mediocre season to flip for a World Championship. My concern is I don’t know if Gute is capable of performing the flip!!

[GB-Brandon]

All it looks like Gute is capable of is calling up teams and making low ball trade offers that he knows will never go through to give the appearance that he was in on the action.