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    A.J. Hawk

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    A.J. Hawk, Ohio State
    Height: 6-1
    Weight: 243
    Likely Draft Position: Top Six Picks
    Possible Destinations: Jets, Packers, 49ers
    NFL Comparison: Takeo Spikes

    Simply put, Hawk was put on this planet to play linebacker in the NFL. He's got everything you could ask of the position: size, speed, instincts, the ability to cover sideline to sideline and the desire to seek out the ball carrier and throw him to the ground. The NFL comparisons scouts have for Hawk—among them Spikes, Brian Urlacher, and Derrick Brooks—speak volumes about his pro potential.

    About the only blemish you'll find on Hawk's scouting report is that he's not particularly fluid—"stiff hips," in Kiper-speak—which could hinder him somewhat in coverage. Clearly, that's quibbling; any team in the league would be more than happy to line up Hawk on the weakside and let him do his thing.

    Either Hawk or end Mario Williams will be the first defensive player off the board, and most mocks have him on his way to the Packers with the fifth overall selection. The green jersey would sure make things easy for Hawk's sister, whom last we saw was sporting a split Ohio State/Notre Dame jersey for the Fiesta Bowl because she's Irish quarterback Brady Quinn's girlfriend.

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    We better get him, I'm ordering a Hawk jersey the Day after draft day
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    We better get him, I'm ordering a Hawk jersey the Day after draft day
    Yeah, that's one that would be cool. I'm not sure a Vernon Davis would be as cool.

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    Gee we can't find anything wrong with him, but he is white, so he doesn't have fluid hips.

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    Never heard of men being so interested in other mens' hips.

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    Seriously, and you can't tell me that Kiper doesn't spend just as much time on his hair as most women.
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    I don't why anyone would want Davis when you can get a defensive leader like this:



    A.J. Hawk, linebacker, Ohio State

    Dick Corrick, an NFL scout for 30 years, reports on A.J. Hawk, a 6-2, 245-pound linebacker from Ohio State:

    "He's an old-fashioned football player. Gosh this guy is active. He's a playmaker. He's a willing, aggressive, wrap-up tackler. He runs to the ball. He plays with temperament. He has a knack to locate the ball. He has very good range. He can change direction in the open field to tackle. He plays hard every down. He's all over the field. He showed great range on the goal line. He has a great heart. He's highly competitive. I compare him to (Brian) Urlacher, only in the sense of his recklessness and his passion. I'm sure he can't run like Urlacher. But playing the game, he reminds me of Urlacher. He's going to be an inside guy. The only negative I had on him was that Ohio State doesn't protect its linebackers with down linemen and so he has to play off blockers. And sometimes he really got bounced by the lineman. But a lot of that is he's running so hard sometimes he doesn't see those people sneaking up on him. He's awfully, awfully good. He's the kind of guy you'd pay to see play. He plays balls out."

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    Why? because Hawk will be a very good player and Davis will be a player that revolutionizes the game!

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    how we he revolutionize the game? There is no way he plays at the same speed he ran on a fast track.

    He might be fast. If he was some revolutionary player, hands down he would go number 2. Reggie Bush is supposedly going to revolutionize the position by being able to play in the slot, return punts, do it all. If Davis was that good, you'd hear him in the same company.

    Let me ask you this, how many of you have seen him play in more than one game? He is getting all this hype over his combine numbers. He had 6 touchdowns in 12 games last year. For being the lone offensive playmaker on a bad team, you'd think he'd score atleast once a game if he was so dominant.

    Yes, he put up freakish numbers at the combine. But, you're ignoring the fact realistically he is probably too slow to be a receiver. I don't buy his combine numbers. He spent the last three months training specifically for that sprint guaranteed. He is also extremely short for a tight end at 6'3".

    He is good; don't get me wrong. He averaged about 80 yards a game last season. Keep in mind he only had one good year while starting for two. AJ Hawk had 3 amazing years, and 4 very good years. AJ Hawk is amazing. He is the best linebacker prospect to come out in like ten years. If you ask me those comparisons to Zach Thomas are not right. He is much faster and much more assignment sure. He is going to be a freaking monster in the Derek Thomas mold.

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    I like Davis, but revolutionize the game is a bit of a stretch. He played well at Maryland, but he surely didn't play up to the expectations his numbers at the combine have put on him. Based on just his play alone, before the combine, I think he would have fallen some where between 15 and 20.

    Mercedes Lewis was a great tight end prospect, and based on his play alone at UCLA he would have been fighting for the #1 tight end spot, but he ran a 4.78 forty and now he most likely will fall some where in the second half of round 2.

    Be careful of judging players based on workout numbers.

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    Its Vernon Davis' turn to be the new flavor of the moment. First it was Vince young. Then it was Jay Cutler, and now its Vernon Davis. Now Young and Cutler have dropped out of many peoples top 5 and soon it will be someone else's turn to be the new favorite. Until the draft is actually held there will be lots of names moved up and down the list. Who's next? My guess is Sam Huff.
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    At worste, Hawk is Katzenmoyer. At best he is Nail Diggs. In between he is Dat Nguyen.

    Hawk is overrated. Trade Walker for Randy Moss and draft Michael Huff.

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    Why not pick another OSU stiff if you are going to compare him to Katz and Diggs? Nguyen went to Texas A&M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pack4ever
    Its Vernon Davis' turn to be the new flavor of the moment. First it was Vince young. Then it was Jay Cutler, and now its Vernon Davis. Now Young and Cutler have dropped out of many peoples top 5 and soon it will be someone else's turn to be the new favorite. Until the draft is actually held there will be lots of names moved up and down the list. Who's next? My guess is Sam Huff.

    I wonder if Davis is going to have a pro-day? Anyway, it won't be Huff that falls. He's done working out. He'll stay right where he is. My guess is one of the USC boys moves up or down a lot tomorrow. Lendale being top 10 coming in at 10 pounds lighter and running a 4.4? We'll have to see what happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers
    Why not pick another OSU stiff if you are going to compare him to Katz and Diggs? Nguyen went to Texas A&M.
    I dont know any other OSU lb, past or present. But i do think Hawk and Nguyen are good college LBs but so and so as pros (even though Hawk has yet played in the NFL).

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    Davis is too big for WR, too small for TE. He will be a disappointment to whomever drafts him, unless they convert him to linebacker!

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    I don't think he is too big to be a receiver (is that possible?). I think if he can play as fast as his 40 time he'll be a player. I am very, very cynical about that, though. If he is infact that fast he will be like a TO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partial
    I don't think he is too big to be a receiver (is that possible?). I think if he can play as fast as his 40 time he'll be a player. I am very, very cynical about that, though. If he is infact that fast he will be like a TO.
    Fast and quick are two diffferent things. He might be real fast, in a straight line. I wonder if he has quickness? To be successful, WRs need to be quick into and out of their cuts. Speed is a bonus on top of that.

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    thats true. I doubt he is that quick, but I have no idea. I really don't think he is as fast as Calhoun who ran a 4.7 at the combine. Plus, thats on a fast track. There has to be some flaw in him, because at that speed teams would use him as a receiver, which in turn negates the validity of "taking a tightend too high". I am really not sure what to think on him. I think he'll be a good player. Probably a top 2-3 tight end. Hawk's gotta be the pick. He will be a top 2-3 linebacker, and if they want to be competitive this year with the Favre unit they bring in the battletested linebacker.

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    Re: A.J. Hawk

    Quote Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers
    The green jersey would sure make things easy for Hawk's sister, whom last we saw was sporting a split Ohio State/Notre Dame jersey for the Fiesta Bowl because she's Irish quarterback Brady Quinn's girlfriend.
    WTF...A.J. Hawk is dating Laura Quinn, Brady Quinn's sister..Brady Quinn is not dating A.J. Hawk's sister..Could it be possible that some random guy just wrote that? I'm sure a professional would not have screwed that up..

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