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    Tank's arguement against me on JS.....

    Here is the foudation of Tank's response to me after I wrote a thread on how the salary cap related to the set budget of a regular family. The quote after Tank attacked my credibility is from Duke University economist Cade Massey and Richard Thaler of the University of Chicago.


    NickCollinsMany of the things that are involved in living or enjoying life cost money. If you overspend on one area, it costs another area of life. The ultimate goal is to make your 70,000 best support your needs and wants.

    TANK "I am sick of reading Collins’ crap, so I have decided to write a counter-argument.

    Collins, the poster, likes to think of himself as a football expert but in truth, he is all about sparring crap. In his thread, “A salary cap analogy for those who expect big FA moves,” he fallaciously, ridiculously and illogically compared the NFL salary cap to a middle class family with an annual income of $70,000. He was basically speaking of opportunity cost, the economic notion that sacrifices pertain to decision making. In other words, you can’t have this without giving up that. But to compare the purchase a new Yukon at the expense one’s retirement fund to signing a marquee free agent at the expense of the future cap is just sheerly ridiculous. "

    Massey and Thaler "We suspect that some teams
    have not fully come to grips with the implications of the salary cap, a relatively new innovation. Buying
    expensive players, even if they turn out to be great performers, imposes opportunity costs elsewhere on
    the roster.
    Spending $10 million on a star quarterback instead of $5 million on a journeyman implies
    having $5 million less to spend on offensive linemen to block or linebackers to tackle. Some of the
    successful franchises seem to understand these concepts, most notably the New England Patriots"



    I think at the very least we can award a high level of credibility to these professionals in relation to this topic. My comparison of the NFL salary cap to a family with a set income was not only valid but important enough for these two highly regarded economist’s to include in the conclusion to a research paper done on the NFL draft and how it relates to the set cap.

    Tank is a very loud and repetitive in his beliefs but his opinions are not valid according to many including Massey and Thaler and this article further proves the irrelevance of the poster known as “TankÃ¢à ‚¬Â.

    From this point forward, I think we can dismiss Tank’s mindless babble as nothing more than a undeveloped mind trying to gain attention. He has been proven wrong whether he chooses the read the evidence and find out or not.

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    Maybe I can use Einstein’s research on his Theory of Relativity to back up my theory on relativity against yours?
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    Like I said Tank....We can either use the foundation of economics as explained by the University economist's above or we can browse through you're gibberish on the theories of relativity.

    Any theory or analysis can be argued against using the theory of relativity. We could use Einstein’s theory of relativity to show that Grady Jackson is not a big man. At the end of the day nothing is what it is and we've gotten no where. I choose in this instance to base my belief on generally accepted economic rules. You can bust out Einstein's theory of relativity like you do all damn day long but it doesn't change the universally accepted beliefs.

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    I know what you're trying to argue and in a way I admire it but at some point you have to stop ignoring the obvious.

    I used to use drugs and smoke cigarettes. I once had a person in my life tell me "That is stupid" I said "Why? Because you think it's stupid. What if I don't put as high of importance on a long life as you. What if I enjoy the feeling of smoking a cigarette. What if I enjoy getting high. I am happy with my life. Who are you to judge what is smart and stupid"

    I was using relativity to back my claim that drugs were good. At the end of the day though, I was missing out on alot of the things in life that I now truely enjoy. I was just like you in that I never took things for what they were and at school I was titled "the world according to bob" for my far out thinking and lack of rational. I'm still pretty far out there but I now enjoy researching to find my own conclusions rather than using relativity to break down others. You'll find some day that it is not hard to break any arugement using relativity because I could sit here and do it to just about every single discussion on this board. I personally have more interesting things to expend my energy on and quite frankly, more challanging mental hurdles to tackle. You apparently are stuck in my high school mind trying to fight the world. I consider you more immature than anything.

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    Nick, I think you got the wrong idea. My intention to bring up the theory of relativity is not to relate it to our discussion of the salary cap, but to implied something like "since you put so much weight on a theory (Massey and Thaler's), it would be the same as if i use Einsteins work as my main base should we ever argue about the theory of relativity."
    That’s all.
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    Yeah.....So you're going to use a logic that basically disproves any logic. I don't think it's very productive.

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    So why did you bring your JS Online butch lesbian pillowfight over here again?
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    In fact, this got me to think of the Degeneress - O'Donnell Theory. It states, simply, as alluded to above, that while you two douchebags bounce around on the matress (your lame basis for this post) swinging giant fluffy pillows (your lame and ineffectual arguments) at each other, the only thing the rest of us see are the crabs falling out of your man-cut BVD undies (this means you have crabs).

    Can't you two just PM each other this crap? Because we all know how it's going to end...

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    "I was titled 'the world according to bob'"

    Your name is Nick. Please stay in the glorious world of Packerrats cyberspace. If I ever met you I'd call you Nick. If somebody pointed to you and asked me who you were I'd say "Nick Collins."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz
    If somebody pointed to you and asked me who you were I'd say "Nick Collins."
    And, if I were an innocent bystander overhearing this, I would run over, fall on my knees and beg for an autograph for my dog, named Tarlam!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinBasket
    Can't you two just PM each other this crap? Because we all know how it's going to end...

    Skin, "We all know how it's going to end"

    For Nick and Tank?

    or

    For Ellen "the Degenerate" & Spanky?

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    Nick and Tank. I think the end already came and went for Roise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinBasket
    Nick and Tank. I think the end already came and went for Roise.
    She just got hired as a personality on The View.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJZiggy
    Quote Originally Posted by SkinBasket
    Nick and Tank. I think the end already came and went for Roise.
    She just got hired as a personality on The View.
    More evidence to further my point. Next stop. Star Jonesville.
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    Fuck you skin basket, you motherfucker. Go fuck your sister for all i care.
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    Is a public forum really the place to stage personal attacks?

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    I wish i could be Rasta Rat lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy_oliver880
    Is a public forum really the place to stage personal attacks?
    I guess people can argue if they want but bringing one from another forum aint right.

    Does this thread deserve to be whacked?

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    My vote is whacked if vulgarities start flying. Its obvious that the respect factor to the argument has flown out the window at that point.

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    The Romper Room should be rated R, and this should be moved there.

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