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    Lunatic Rat HOFer RashanGary's Avatar
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    So since we’ve determined beyond a doubt that he is dead average compared to players who make it into the NFL, he should be better than average in other areas and he’s not!

    He is a bust.
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    Since he is better in other areas, let's see what he does.

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    https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/nfl-d...n-tyron-hopper

    Packers third-round pick Ty’Ron Hopper is a four-down player with the potential to be an elite blitzer and excellent coverage player, Missouri assistant coach D.J. Smith said.
    Not a neutral opinion by any means, but this is some high praise.

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    Bust, 4 down player - everyone's got an opinion on the internet. I think it makes sense to give Hopper 3 years before grading him (although I think he was a reach). He was second-team All-SEC, which isn't nothing. Maybe he's JAG, who knows.

    There are 1,920 players on NFL rosters currently who posted a #RAS. Of those, 81.35% are rated 5.00 or above, with only 18.65% rated below average. A whopping 45.21% are above 8.00, in that elite range for athletic ability when compared to their peers.
    The average #RAS for a player on an NFL roster is 7.16.
    https://ras.football/roster-breakdowns-of-ras/

    Don't confuse average (mean) with median. Don't boil things down to one number. And I'm nobody's bro.
    It makes sense to draft bigger, faster athletes, so it's not a shock that 45% are 8+. Being athletic doesn't guarantee you'll be a good football player, but it does mean your ceiling is likely higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    Are you guys really so dense that not one person chimes in and says yeah, there is a difference between people who test to get into the league and people who actually get in the league. You really believe every player who tests is in the league? You really don’t believe the ones who make it are more athletic than the ones who don’t? You guys seriously can’t comprehend that? I feel like I’m in the twilight zone right now. I can’t believe one person anywhere can’t wrap their mind around this.
    No, you are correct on this one RG. Not sure what run is thinking on this one. NFL players is different than college guys trying to get into the NFL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    So since we’ve determined beyond a doubt that he is dead average compared to players who make it into the NFL, he should be better than average in other areas and he’s not!

    He is a bust.
    But you are wrong on this. We have no clue if he is a bust or not.
    I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    So since we’ve determined beyond a doubt that he is dead average compared to players who make it into the NFL, he should be better than average in other areas and he’s not!

    He is a bust.
    Im starting to think this guy banged some chick you like because the hate is very strong in you.

    How the fuck IS he a bust if he hasn’t played yet? You can say he is going to be a bust but right now you are about the same as this lady.


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    I’m sorry. I was stressed out because my oldest son had a break up from his highschool girlfriend 6 months ago and there is some bullshit fallout. He’s always been confident and didn’t have to prove anything or act like an arrogant privileged white guy. He’s 21 years old and a year away from graduating with his bachelors with honors. It’s great. He’s doing well.

    However, he’s working out and taking ridiculous gym pictures now. And coming off like he’s smarter than everyone and just generally being the insecure entitled white guy that his mom’s family breeds.

    So I can’t reach him at all about just investing in relationships and happiness like I could before. He’s on a mission to prove something and I hate the suffering that goes with that. So I was frustrated that I couldn’t get through to him and I was super agitated. Additionally, my second son is debating between engineering fields or stating a business in a trade. So that’s a whole additional stress because I just hate to see my kids suffer and want him to make a good decision.

    So anyway, I was feeling helpless and powerless to explain things and then this came up and I lost my shit.


    I’m sorry.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    Nothing to make a big deal about RG. He might be a bust, he might not. One thing is certain, he and King are the more intriguing picks.

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    I’m sorry. I was stressed out because my oldest son had a break up from his highschool girlfriend 6 months ago and there is some bullshit fallout. He’s always been confident and didn’t have to prove anything or act like an arrogant privileged white guy. He’s 21 years old and a year away from graduating with his bachelors with honors. It’s great. He’s doing well.

    However, he’s working out and taking ridiculous gym pictures now. And coming off like he’s smarter than everyone and just generally being the insecure entitled white guy that his mom’s family breeds.

    So I can’t reach him at all about just investing in relationships and happiness like I could before. He’s on a mission to prove something and I hate the suffering that goes with that. So I was frustrated that I couldn’t get through to him and I was super agitated. Additionally, my second son is debating between engineering fields or stating a business in a trade. So that’s a whole additional stress because I just hate to see my kids suffer and want him to make a good decision.

    So anyway, I was feeling helpless and powerless to explain things and then this came up and I lost my shit.


    I’m sorry.
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    Man RG that’s just how kids are at that age. At least he talks to you. Social pressure is a mfer nowadays. If that is the worst thing dude you did good. As for the girl problems, like I tell my son, don’t chase ‘em replace ‘em!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    I’m sorry. I was stressed out because my oldest son had a break up from his highschool girlfriend 6 months ago and there is some bullshit fallout. He’s always been confident and didn’t have to prove anything or act like an arrogant privileged white guy. He’s 21 years old and a year away from graduating with his bachelors with honors. It’s great. He’s doing well.

    However, he’s working out and taking ridiculous gym pictures now. And coming off like he’s smarter than everyone and just generally being the insecure entitled white guy that his mom’s family breeds.

    So I can’t reach him at all about just investing in relationships and happiness like I could before. He’s on a mission to prove something and I hate the suffering that goes with that. So I was frustrated that I couldn’t get through to him and I was super agitated. Additionally, my second son is debating between engineering fields or stating a business in a trade. So that’s a whole additional stress because I just hate to see my kids suffer and want him to make a good decision.

    So anyway, I was feeling helpless and powerless to explain things and then this came up and I lost my shit.


    I’m sorry.
    Sounds like the glass is way more than half full.

    My wife and I found that a really wierd age range for us. You look at them and you still see your little kids, but they're adults.

    I started a lot of conversations with "ok, here is my unsolicited advice, but I'm going to support whatever you decide is best for you".

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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    I’m sorry. I was stressed out because my oldest son had a break up from his highschool girlfriend 6 months ago and there is some bullshit fallout. He’s always been confident and didn’t have to prove anything or act like an arrogant privileged white guy. He’s 21 years old and a year away from graduating with his bachelors with honors. It’s great. He’s doing well.

    However, he’s working out and taking ridiculous gym pictures now. And coming off like he’s smarter than everyone and just generally being the insecure entitled white guy that his mom’s family breeds.

    So I can’t reach him at all about just investing in relationships and happiness like I could before. He’s on a mission to prove something and I hate the suffering that goes with that. So I was frustrated that I couldn’t get through to him and I was super agitated. Additionally, my second son is debating between engineering fields or stating a business in a trade. So that’s a whole additional stress because I just hate to see my kids suffer and want him to make a good decision.

    So anyway, I was feeling helpless and powerless to explain things and then this came up and I lost my shit.


    I’m sorry.
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    Update… All kids are doing well. My oldest son is doing really well, just sort of being a regular successful 21 year old in today’s world. I’ve chilled the hell out and just accepted that they’re pretty much all gonna get sucked into these worldly traps for a minute before they find what brings the most joy and contentment.

    It was kind of sad because my oldest son kind of set his life up to make being an available father his top priority and I saw a poll on women’s priorities age 18-24 and they have vacations and beach time ahead of their relationship with their partner. So being parents isn’t really something young people are valuing these days.

    But it is what it is. There’s no changing it and I’ve chilled the hell out!

    Going to Memorial Day grill out with the whole fam on Saturday and definitly NOT going to keep dropping subtle annoying hints at how superficial I think gym pictures and using big words to sound smart are

    I have a pretty long history of being not only accepting, but outwardly proud of everything my kids are so six months of rolling my eyes isn’t going to destroy a 21 year relationship with very very little conflict.

    You guys definitely helped me out with the “at least they talk to you” and other comments because it made me realize I’m on the path of putting a huge block between me and one of the only people I’ve invested in, in this world. My whole life I’ve always believed that community accolades and best guy awards are superficial and really don’t make the impact of being a good father, son or commitment to the closest people. So I pretty much have 6 extremely close people and you guys are the only less deep relationships I put even a shred of effort into.

    Of all people, I’m the last person who should be sabotaging my tiny relationship pool. Plus, the less unconditional love he gets from his family, the more likely those surface community awards from people who don’t even know him will feel good.

    So thanks rats, for helping to straighten me the fuck out.
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